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[Hyuga]

Nobody can stop them. They will always find a way, I guess..

Yeah, which is kind of sad ;/

 

[onQ123]

I guess people see what they want to see, because the guy didn't look naked to me it looks like he has on khaki shorts

 

[The Faceless Master]

amazing!

But the 360 still has a max HDD size of 250GB, doesn't it?

Jtag was the one mod that never felt worth it. I had my Wii homebrewed so I can play imports with zero effort. I got a flash card so I could carry around all my DS games on one cart (Though in the end, I found I was fine with just one game at a time, so I never got a DSi compatible card). I modded my PS2 and PSP so I could have lower load times from my games.

At best, it does allow region bypass, but there aren't really any region locked imports that interest me, other then cave shmups that are more then I am willing to play.

no limit with JTAG.

 

[Drkirby]

you think this will run ps2/wii/gc emulators in the future?

Bwhahahaha. No.

 

[Roto13]

i don't really care about moral arguments, i leave those to others... i'm only amazed by how smart these guys can be

Not smart enough to put some pants on before making a YouTube video, apparently.

 

[Uno Venova]

Too much work, but I really do hope it gets easy one day, I don't care about getting banned from LIVE and my 360 would get more use that way.

 

[The Faceless Master]

as for people talking about hacking and possibly banning... only an idiot or someone selling slots for a call of duty xp boosting room goes on xbl with a JTAG, and by default, you can't even go online, it's blocked! what people do is get a 2nd 360 for the JTAG...

 

[iKeepPlaying]

Nobody can stop them. They will always find a way, I guess..

PS3? After the whole Geohot (3.55CFW) fiasco, they haven't been able to make CFW.

 

[Manp]

Not smart enough to put some pants on before making a YouTube video, apparently.

or maybe he likes to show his junk

 

[IchigoSharingan]

Do something that's going to impress me then. My PC did this back in 1999.

Edit: Just to keep it going:

Try again.

Talk about moving the goal post. Yikes.

 

[test_account]

PS3? After the whole Geohot (3.55CFW) fiasco, they haven't been able to make CFW.

I guess it is only a matter of time. But yeah, the Geohot lawsuit actually seem to be quite effective, so far at least.

 

[DieH@rd]

Very interesting point of attack, they managed to hack the hypervisor.

Question remains, can this be possibly repeated on PS3 and Vita... Time will tell.

 

[Wazzim]

PS3? After the whole Geohot (3.55CFW) fiasco, they haven't been able to make CFW.

Everybody who wanted CFW already got it on PS3.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

But you see, I've invested so much into XBLA, so I am not tempted in the slightest.

because microsoft did a good job of investing in XBL, providing an incentive to not pirate, rather than featureless security firmware updates every day that treat you like a criminal.


and that's how it's done.

Umm... No one is supporting piracy here. It about Homebrewing i.e. Adding or removing features that enhance the 360 experience.

I'll adopt a kitty if someone makes a minimalistic dashboard theme.

 

[kaioshade]

Painless (relatively) region free method will make me jtag the 360 in a heartbeat.

 

[bangai-o]

Looks like X360 Slim models are finally hacked. I guess that new disc format is kinda pointless now, eh?

so.... how is it pointless?

 

[Conflict NZ]

Does this mean we can also JTAG our phat 360s that are updated? Ever since I got my slim my phats been sitting in the closet collecting dust, maybe this could be a decent use for it.

 

[AbsoluteZero]

Yeah PCs did Wii graphics back in 1999 too. Zing.

F-Zero X is a Nintendo 64 game.

 

[IrishNinja]

i recall reading there was an interesting homebrew scene on really old 360s that still had the blades OS, but i never saw what specifically. as has been said here, im sure most emulators run great, but it seems like a lot've effort for something PCs and most other systems do easier.

 

[RedSwirl]

Edit: damn. Wrong thread.

 

[grap3fruitman]

Try again.

You're an idiot. The ability to run homebrew on the 360 is a really great achievement. I kind of want to go pick up a slim right now with one of those gift-card offers.

 

[Truespeed]

Sounds pretty flaky at this point. It's a good start, though. Oh, and I'm 25% sure the guy was wearing tan shorts.

 

[GavinGT]

You're an idiot. The ability to run homebrew on the 360 is a really great achievement. I kind of want to go pick up a slim right now with one of those gift-card offers.

Unless you really want to delve into the technical side of this hack, it could be 6 months to a year before this is released in a digestible form. I don't think most people will be programming Xilinx boards using VHDL to make this happen. Still, it wouldn't be a bad idea to buy the slim now and stick it in your closet, as Microsoft will probably make swift changes in their next dash update by blowing e-fuses or something.

 

[Theonik]

so.... how is it pointless?

I'm guessing because now people can use 360s with the format update to dump new format disks. Though that is a foolish thing to say since:
a) The new format still gives you more space
b) They haven't solved the issue of burning those disks.
Disclaimer: I haven't been following the 360 hack scene for a bit so what I'm saying could be wrong.

 

[AbsoluteZero]

You're an idiot. The ability to run homebrew on the 360 is a really great achievement. I kind of want to go pick up a slim right now with one of those gift-card offers.

What homebrew is there to run that's worthwhile possibly ruining your brand new $200 purchase?

 

[Nemo]

I jtagged an xbox myself when they just found it out since I had the old one. Think I messed up about 5 times before finally getting it. After that I did a few for a friends. It's pretty easy to do if you have the link reader ready

 

[iKeepPlaying]

Everybody who wanted CFW already got it on PS3.

Not really. I had CFW, but if I stayed there, I wouldn't be able to play online now.

 

[DieH@rd]

Exploit is out in the wild. Diagrams, pictures, documentation and all software that is needed for the job...

 

[damn that's nice]

Pirating games makes me fucking sick.

 

[Conflict NZ]

Pirating games makes me fucking sick.

Please not another one of these threads, mods please don't let this turn into another PS3 CFW thread.

 

[grap3fruitman]

What homebrew is there to run that's worthwhile possibly ruining your brand new $200 purchase?

What homebrew has been developed for a platform that's been incredibly difficult to obtain units that can run homebrew? Not much but now there's potential. That's the point.

 

[onQ123]

Pirating games makes me fucking sick.

damn that's nice

 

[Eiji]

Pirating games makes me fucking sick.

Then stop pirating games!

 

[LQX]

Cant believe people are still pirating games. This is probably the cheapest gen ever especially for 360 which games are always on sale it seems.

 

[Wario64]

Cant believe people are still pirating games. This is probably the cheapest gen ever especially for 360 which games are always on sale it seems.

Last gen was cheaper. By far.

 

[Uno Venova]

Cant believe people are still pirating games. This is probably the cheapest gen ever especially for 360 which games are always on sale it seems.

Pirating games makes me fucking sick.

Just lol, you guys gotta be having a laugh.

 

[Tmac]

Yeah, which is kind of sad ;/

Sad? Only if it had a effective effect on game sales...

 

[Theonik]

Cant believe people are still pirating games. This is probably the cheapest gen ever especially for 360 which games are always on sale it seems.

Unless devs start paying you to play their games piracy will always be cheaper.
Besides this has little to do with piracy.

 

[onQ123]

I don't even think the people here was even thinking about "Pirating games" when they seen this & I don't think anyone here said anything about pirating games so where are these little outbursts coming from?

 

[angelfly]

I don't even think the people here was even thinking about "Pirating games" when they seen this & I don't think anyone here said anything about pirating games so where are these little outbursts coming from?

People that think 360 piracy started with the JTAG and will start again with it on the 360 S.

 

[Theonik]

People that think 360 piracy started with the JTAG and will start again with it on the 360 S.

Ie people who are wrong?
Because pirates didn't use JTAG but flashed the DVD firmwire.
Edit: Besides, this is a bit too much for your average pirate.

 

[surly]

What homebrew is there to run that's worthwhile possibly ruining your brand new $200 purchase?

Not a lot! A few emulators and a couple of homebrew games from what I can tell.

It seems like it's more hassle than it's worth, cos you have to buy some kind of chip and even then it can take "a few minutes" before it'll run unsigned code, just so you can run a rather meagre selection of homebrew. I guess a few of the more hardcore pirates will do it though, but for a media centre/emulator box you'd be better off with a cheap PC.

 

[NemesisPrime]

PS3? After the whole Geohot (3.55CFW) fiasco, they haven't been able to make CFW.

Because there is no need.

 

[kaioshade]

What homebrew is there to run that's worthwhile possibly ruining your brand new $200 purchase?

The ability to play imports would make me jtag my system easily if there wasnt serious consequences.

 

[8sanders]

I am down. I hacked my wii just so i don't have to deal with the discs anymore. I still have them on a shelf in my closet. Same with the Xbox OG. Being able to not deal with discs, not have to transport my discs when i take my console somewhere, and possibly play Japanese only shmups (cave) will be awesome. People using this for piracy are dicks.

 

[LQX]

Last gen was cheaper. By far.

No way. Prices fall a lot faster this gen. And there was not really a price war with many sites over games like this gen. Amazon practically discounts games everyday and Steam practically gives them away.

Unless devs start paying you to play their games piracy will always be cheaper.
Besides this has little to do with piracy.

Of course it will be cheaper but with games getting cheaper because of sites like Amazon and Steam I think piracy might be the last resort for some rather than the first.

 

[iKeepPlaying]

Because there is no need.

So, you can play online with CFW? Or better, you can use homebrew on OFW? Nope.
So, there is a need.

 

[Tunavi]

sex sells.

I see what you did there

 

[TheExplodingHead]

The 360 JTAG wasn't so much difficult as it was time consuming and required a lot of research on the best method...for me at least it was a fun hobby, I've done a Xenon and two Jaspers so far. As for the Slim's, I'll wait until more is understood and best common practices are laid down before I do mine. Not for piracy of course, I just like the challenge and the mod hobby.

 

[Shaneus]

By far the greatest feature (personally) of the JTAG'd 360 was to convert any game to the Games On Demand format and run them from the HDD. Bought a special drive just so I could do it for all my games.

If they can somehow get this exploit working online without detection or bans (which it sounds like might be possible) then I'd be quite chuffed. But as it is, my modified 360 is still in my bedroom with all my games on it, sitting there (relatively) unplayed as all my gaming is done in my loungeroom (and online).