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Xbox 360 unveiled, pics inside (Engadget)

I'll just point out that the majority of people who are on the internet use an overpriced, but feature-stacked service, like AOL. That's the mainstream. The same people who pay for overpriced channel availability from cable companies. That's the mainstream. Of course, this is only my opinion. However, this could extend to a lot of things people can and do subscribe to. I like XBL and find it worth the $50 a year it costs. That doesn't mean it can't be better for the price paid. Indeed, one of the things I want to happen next gen is that all of the consoles offer their own competitive services so that we'll see some additions and improvements to the existing services provided and increasing the bang for the buck effect.
 
Online won't really be mainstream until the end of the NEXT generation when most people owning next gen consoles will have access to broadband. Maybe MS, Sony, and Nintendo will partner with a cable company, DSL, or telecom provider and then I can see it becoming mainstream as part of an entertainment or communication package.
 
BigBoss said:
Sony has got more. Does that mean the PS2 was responsible for making online gaming mainstream?

Have they ? I dont think even sony knows :P
And no I do not consider the ~ 2 million live mainstream either.

Another thing bugging me about the controllers (apart from d-pad position, see post above) is the effect of vibration on battery life. How many times am I going to have toreach round the back of the thing* in order to recharge my controller. I cannot see this being aesthetic. Hope fully the batteries last a month at worst.
 
Prine said:
Lets get some stats, most played PS2 online game vs most played XBL game
Come on, man. That's not fair and you know it. Halo 2 stomps everything PS2 offers with regard to popularity of online usage. I don't know the stats at all, but that's pretty apparent.
 
zink120 said:
I don't think the console look that bad. It's just not perfect.

But every one forgot the best looking console : N64 pikachu :D

http://www.retromadness.com/nintendo/images/n64pikachu.jpg


Heh! I meant to post that earlier in the thread when someone else posted a listing of other console designs (maybe it was a different thread), but got sidetracked. Represent!

Definitely the most amusing console recasing Nintendo's done. Very unique compared to, "And now the case is Funtastic Green!"
 
DrForester said:
stackable on the Xbox....


So does that like a official confirmation for no backwards compatability?

The curve certainly is REALLY close based on that picture...
 
Guy LaDouche said:
Looks like a flower vase from the front. Overall, its just vanilla. Not bad, not good, its just kinda... "there"

Hey, fuck you! Vanilla is the best flavor of ice cream there is!

I kinda like the controller....but it doesn't add anything. My favorite thing about switching generations is seeing the new conroller designs. The SNES added two more buttons and shoulder buttons. The PSX was the SNES controller with two more shoulder buttons. The N64 was a fucking claw with an analog stick, Z button, and C-buttons. Then came the Dual Shock, just a PSX pad with two analog sticks. The PS2 was exactly the same as the DS1 :( The Dreamcast was all kinds of cool with its VMU slot and nice triggers, then came Gamecube with it's SUPER comfortable body, nifty button layout, and awesome shoulder triggers. Then there was the Xbox controller which was kinda like a black DC conroller but with 2 joysticks and 2 memory card slots, and now the 360 controller is pretty much exactly the same. :(

I'd guess the PS3 controller with be the DS3, only with those funky shoulder see-saws from that patent, and a different rumble motor. The Revolution controller will likely be a GCN pad without the D-Pad or C-Stick "testicles" and a gyro instead of a rumble motor, and maybe pressure sensitive grips on the handels. Then some kind of something to replace the ABXY buttons...but generally the same shape.

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complete overreaction at gaf, who would have thought? it could have been the best console design ever and for the most part the responses would have been the same.

it's much better design than the original xbox (but it is still a little plain and a tad uninspired) and this time next year xbox360's design will be a complete NON-issue (unlike xbox1).
 
I liked the looks of the first Xbox. This one looks better. I don't see what the big deal is. It's smaller and it's what you play on it that counts.
 
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Connect to PC via controller...

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I think the console looks great, the best looking console so far since the Dreamcast. The choice of the white plastic is unfortunate though, it would look better in silver or even black, or a combination of the two. I also wish they had done more with the controller, just looks like the old XBox controller with a new paint job.
 
Yeah the 1-4 could stand for wireless channels, because in a game you'd want to know which controller you are.

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IS THAT A MEDIA CENTER BUTTON I SEE?!?

If it's the case that MS actually has Media Center running on the 360, that would be freakin' unreal!

I can't believe it...but if it turns out to be true, MS has this next gen in the palm of their hands. Who in America DOESN'T want a Tivo like device in their homes?
 
Without a tuner i dont see how it can have Tivo capabilities, it's more likely they are going to hype connectivity with a Media Center PC. Unless theyre doing 2 version of the console, 1 basic and 1 media center edition which would be sweet.
 
WTF am I thinking, yeah... it needs a tuner. :P

Good point about the multiple versions. I'd pick up the media center one, even if it costs around $450 Cdn.
 
The photo of the display on the first page makes the thing look filthy. They should have put some lights under it or something.
 
Well, camera phones are hardly considered a high-end photographic device. The lighting just makes it look awful and the angle from which the photo was snapped certainly doesn't help. Official PR assets will make it look as good as it's gonna get, just like all of the official stuff you see with a normal, non-spoiled product announcement.
 
Ghost of Bill Gates said:
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Connect to PC via controller...

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As well as charging, most likely. USB will likely be the standard for peripherals like controllers, cameras and such (underneath that little cover on front).
 
From what I hear, Xbox360 just has the media-extender thing that came out for xbox built-in. Thus the media-center button on the remote. So ya..you'll be able to play your movies from your media-center pc on your TV out of the box.

Not sure how psyched I am about this though...I don't have a PC let alone one dedicated to Windows Media Center.
 
yeah thats what i figured since gates himself said the optimal hook-up is your 360 networked to your media center pc.

and that REALLY blows. hopefully you can still stream videos from your computer through the 360 for TV viewing (without media center).
 
I have a Media Center PC. It's alright for recording TV, but I never, ever use the Media Center program / Remote to listen to music / view photos / watch videos... Other programs do it so much better.


As far as the console itself, it's not that nice looking, but it's a hell of a lot better looking than the Xbox I currently have. :lol
 
If you have to use the media center software for the PC, count me out
I'll still probably eventually buy the system, but won't be using that feature.
 
Black is slimming, and that means Microsoft are dumb. That said, black didn't do much for the original Xbox, but then again, what would?
 
nitewulf said:
mainstream = userbase. they got a lot of ppl.


Mainstream means people other than stoned fratboys and foul-mouthed hick racists want to play. We're a long way off from that.
 
MightyHedgehog said:
This DirtyHarry must not be using American English. If he was, it would be, 'Nintendo is dumb.' A true statement.

I think outside of America you can say "Microsoft is dumb" OR "Microsoft are dumb" and be correct either way. In the first instance the company is an entity and in the second it is a collection of people.

I just can't believe how many people who post here get their/there/they're mixed up.

Oh, and I think white as a console colour (sorry, "color") is fine. The curves - not so much.
 
Actually, I like the non-American spellings of colour, honour, and so on. Even timbre, calibre, theatre, etc. But, yeah, the whole are/is thing just doesn't work for me when talking about an entity that, while representing many, is still referred to as a singular subject. It just sounds like plural Nintendos or something strange. Just awkward. I'm not a grammar/spelling Nazi, though. Hell, I'm a king of chronic awkward, run-on sentence misdemeanors and poor paragraph/subject structure. Or sumthin like dat, anywayz. This is a forum to post shit as fast and messy as your determination to get your point across will allow for. Like a weird commununicative Konami Track & Field game. Anyway, I loves me those periods...

Oh yeah, where are more leaked pics, already?
 
Wait - it's not "theatre" in the U.S?

Damn I must come off as totally illiterate on the inet.

Paranoia taking over... ability to type... seizing... up...
 
byproduct said:
Wait - it's not "theatre" in the U.S?

It's not hard to find visible examples of either spelling, truthfully. Same goes for most of the other words. I lived near the Bethel Centre during my college years in Columbus, Ohio. I'm also pretty sure one the local movie places also used "Theatre" in their name.
 
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