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Xbox 360 unveiled, pics inside (Engadget)
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JoshuaJSlone
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IAWTKFKeithFranklin said:
Some of the shots make it look abnormally large, but those are bad shots. I remember thinking the first few shots of the GameCube made it look huge too, since without better context I was thinking of it being as wide as PS1 or N64. Having the first size comparison being to Japanese women didn't help. :lol
DCX said:
This is what I'm really curious about. I'm wondering if they've been working on similar stuff to Sony with eyetoy and next-generation eyetoy, i.e. if that camera is infrared, if they intend to use it for interface and control or just communcation and face mapping for things like PD0 etc. This is one thing I've very interested in with regard to PS3, so it'd be cool if MS has been doing similar stuff.
Not that my opinion matters for anything...but I don't find it to be "ugly" either. To me, i'm just indifferent...it does look "bland" to me, but then again, so do a lot of systems...plus it's a bad pic. That said though, it is giving me Dreamcast-vibes....in the sense that I SOOO want one on launch day! 
That said though, I need to see the launch lineup before want turns to need.
That said though, I need to see the launch lineup before want turns to need.KeithFranklin
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I agree I have never found anything interesting at all about the PS2 or the PSTwo and like the GameCube I hate the fact that the PSTwo is top loading. That is something to take issue with because it limits where the console can be placed. That is another problem with the GameCube, the shape and the top loading limit where it can be placed.
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KeithFranklin said:
You're not supposed to stack anything on top of consoles, anyway. So unless you're putting it into an entertainment center with a really low shelf directly above, I'd say the durability of a top loading system is more of a benefit than anything else. I hope Revolution and PS3 are both top loading (looks like Sony might've seen the light with PStwo).
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RE4 vs. SH4 said:
I have had front/side loading CD players, VCRs, DVD players, CD drives in PC's, DVD drives in PC's and not once have I ever had the tray/mechaism fail. Come to think of it I have had top loading VCR's, CD players, DVD players get jammed or kids break.
Yeah nearly everyone of my electronic devices in my entertainment center says dont stack in the manual, yet we do (we all do). I do put them on shelves with about 1 inch of space between them. Hmm couldnt do that with the PSTwo or the GameCube.
I wasn't exactly expecting art from MS in the first place, its better than the monsterous heat sink looking Xbox too, and I'm sure its probably half the damn weight (hopefully).
What I don't like about the design:
The system itself looks rather top heavy for a vertical system, and the angled shape would just be obnoxious when vertical. I don't typically stack on systems and whatnot if I can help it, I just don't like the slant, especially because when vertical it makes it seem like it could be tipped over rather easily, though I doubt thats an actual danger, MS wouldn't be that stupid.
The white theme I also don't much care for. It's a decent option versus black I guess, but the overall feel, with the white color and large power button leave it looking like an iPod theme knock off, and a bad one at that.
Also, the camera looks totally out of place, like some refugee from an 80's "electronics of the future" simposium. It has a very blocky profile that just doesn't match well with the system's and controller's theme of smoothed and rounded angles.
What I do like:
The controllers being wireless is damn sweet. Everyone should do it next gen, but at least one of the other two 1st parties will opt not to unfortunately. The system is definately a step up from the original Xbox asthetically, and including a camera, even one that looks like it was made by some Chinese knockoff factory, is a nice way to add features without adding much cost.
Honestly, it doesn't much matter to me, I wasn't planning on buying a 360 right off anyways, not until it at least drops down to $200. Odds are I'm still holding out for the PS3 to be my first console of next generation, and its pretty likely that a 360 will be the second. Casing design doesn't play a big factor in that though, the hardware inside and my faith in Sony to once again deliver the best in 3rd party content, as well as new interesting first party content, is the major factor.
However, I expect the PS3 to look a hell of a lot better than this, but thats just because I hold Sony to a higher standard when it comes to asthetic design. The PSP, PSTwo, PSone, and a lot of their HT compenents set the bar high for them, if they can't at least match that level on the PS3, the biggest system release they'll have for the next 5-10 years, I'll be disapointed.
What I don't like about the design:
The system itself looks rather top heavy for a vertical system, and the angled shape would just be obnoxious when vertical. I don't typically stack on systems and whatnot if I can help it, I just don't like the slant, especially because when vertical it makes it seem like it could be tipped over rather easily, though I doubt thats an actual danger, MS wouldn't be that stupid.
The white theme I also don't much care for. It's a decent option versus black I guess, but the overall feel, with the white color and large power button leave it looking like an iPod theme knock off, and a bad one at that.
Also, the camera looks totally out of place, like some refugee from an 80's "electronics of the future" simposium. It has a very blocky profile that just doesn't match well with the system's and controller's theme of smoothed and rounded angles.
What I do like:
The controllers being wireless is damn sweet. Everyone should do it next gen, but at least one of the other two 1st parties will opt not to unfortunately. The system is definately a step up from the original Xbox asthetically, and including a camera, even one that looks like it was made by some Chinese knockoff factory, is a nice way to add features without adding much cost.
Honestly, it doesn't much matter to me, I wasn't planning on buying a 360 right off anyways, not until it at least drops down to $200. Odds are I'm still holding out for the PS3 to be my first console of next generation, and its pretty likely that a 360 will be the second. Casing design doesn't play a big factor in that though, the hardware inside and my faith in Sony to once again deliver the best in 3rd party content, as well as new interesting first party content, is the major factor.
However, I expect the PS3 to look a hell of a lot better than this, but thats just because I hold Sony to a higher standard when it comes to asthetic design. The PSP, PSTwo, PSone, and a lot of their HT compenents set the bar high for them, if they can't at least match that level on the PS3, the biggest system release they'll have for the next 5-10 years, I'll be disapointed.
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The 360 looks bleh.
What's all the fuss about? Since when does Microsoft know shit about industrial design? The look is quite expected - a forced and stretched attempt to rip-off something that is being considered stylich (Macs). It looks lightyears beter than the first one for sure and is probably both lighter and smaller. However, people don't really buy consoles based on the look alone - the XBOX1 and GCN are good examples of that. Both have a number of good games and very disputable exterior.
Bottom line: XBOX360 (if this is indeed what it will look like) liiks just like I expected a Microsoft console to look like, uninspired and unoriginal.
Bottom line: XBOX360 (if this is indeed what it will look like) liiks just like I expected a Microsoft console to look like, uninspired and unoriginal.
CrimsonSkies
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If that's indeed a true representation where someone attempted to scale then I don't see how anyone can praise Sony and diss this design (especially the original PS2).
First, is there any reason to believe that is to scale? The comparisions of drive size to the original Xbox seem like a better approximation than this, which I haven't heard any reasoning for.CrimsonSkies said:
If that's indeed a true representation where someone attempted to scale then I don't see how anyone can praise Sony and diss this design (especially the original PS2).
Second, size isn't the only complaint about the system, a lot of people just don't like the look of it.
alejob said:
I didn't say the design sucks, just that the look is not original or even their own. I have yet to see a device from Microsoft, that has great design. The fist XBOX in my opinion was hideous. Seems like they came up with the design first and only then thought of a name for it.
maximum360
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This design easily beats out the PS, PS2, DC, GC, and Xbox by far. Go M$!
super-heated plasma
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That controller is hot sex! the system itself I think is cool. I don't know why people think its so ugly. I don't buy consoles for their aesthetic value anyway, I buy them for games.
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kitchenmotors
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For a machine that's supposed to bring the HD revolution and changed the way we play games, it sure looks like shit. It's bad enough they tried to copy the power mac design, but they managed to make it look like a toy. With Nintendo I don't really expect anything that looks like it belongs with my high end equipment, but the way Microsoft has been talking I'd atleast expect the console to look somewhat sleek.
Microsoft has a long way to go and a lot of things to learn, despite trying to launch in november.
Oh well, I have faith Sony will atleast deliver something as sleek and sexy as the PSP.
Microsoft has a long way to go and a lot of things to learn, despite trying to launch in november.
Oh well, I have faith Sony will atleast deliver something as sleek and sexy as the PSP.
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I dont know why so many are complaining. It may not be the most original design but it still loks very nice, even the colour. Having the console stood up like in the photo's looks bettere. I just dont understand where the controller ports are, have I missed something out or are MS being stupid?
kitchenmotors said:
Yeah, Microsoft, despite being a wildly successful multi-billion dollar company you have a lot to learn from random people on video game message boards. Why, this very thread is filled to the rim with experts on aesthetics and design. I feel blessed just to be a part of this irrepressible think tank.
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VALIS said:
Despite being a multi-billion dollar company, Microsoft still came up with a design that's not very pleasing. Also, dude, I've been doing graphic/web design since 1997. I like to think I have some experience and a really good eye for design, although I am more of a minimalist than anything. Don't talk to me like a fucking child, my opinion still stands.
kitchenmotors said:
I noticed the graphic/web design in your profile before I responded and then immediately asked myself, "Why would someone with a bit of insight into design be criticizing a poorly lit, bad angle picture of a console taken by a camera phone?" Surely you know that that image isn't very represntitive of what the product will look like on store shelves. It'll be the same size. Have the same curves and etc. But it won't LOOK the same. Look at the difference between the controller in the camera phone shot and the controller in the professional shot - they don't even look like the same thing! You should know this as someone in design, right?
As far as talking to you like a child, when you combine your kneejerk analysis above with things like this, "I have faith Sony will atleast deliver something as sleek and sexy as the PSP," what am I supposed to think? You obviously came into this thread to take a few quick shots at MS. Want to be treated like an adult then act like one.
AtomicShroom
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Okay. Now will someone please leak Perfect Dark Zero screenies already?? Thanks!
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VALIS said:
The picture is crappy, and I'm sure it'll look better in person, but it's still something that I do not find pleasing at all. I see design all over the place, and things that bother me don't bother anyone else. I get crazy when I notice text is not aligned properly, so I'm obviously a bit more anal about things than most people. The design gets the job done, but I personally don't see any need to gush over it.
In anycase, I don't find most console very pleasing to my eye, the PSP is a prime example of top notch console design though. Sure, I made a few low blows, but first impressions are everything sometimes. I will reserve further judgement though until we get official E3 pics.
kitchenmotors said:
you get crazy when text is misaligned? That's it? As a designer I get crazy if so much of a pixel is out of place. If i have to I would recode the webpage to make sure everything looks 100% proper.
That said, Xbox 360 looks hot enough to be a centerfold in any SI Swimsuit edition of any year. It's that sexy.
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DopeyFish said:
Misaligned text is just the tip of the iceberg. :lol
boutrosinit
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Words cannot describe the pure evil present in that image.
Unlike the Xbrick, I think the Xbox 360 looks very nice and I would happily use and display it in my living rather than using it as a door stop. The control pad looks pretty slick too!
The best looking console in my opinion though has to be the Sega Dreamcast; only one word can truly describe it and that word is, "cute".
The best looking console in my opinion though has to be the Sega Dreamcast; only one word can truly describe it and that word is, "cute".
WordAssassin
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kitchenmotors said:
Yeah, I'd agree with you if you were just talking about the shape, screen, and plastic used. Add in the buttons and switches though and it's a jumbled mess.
I think Nintendo will have the best looking console next gen if Johnny is right and it looks like it was designed by Apple. (Though that's totaly opionion based, as some people just don't like Apple's designs while others like myself LOVE them) The PS3 will likely be on par in sexiness too. The 360 though...it's alright. I kinda like it, don't hate it. I'll be buying one, that much is for sure.
360 looks nice. Controller looks a bit toyish, but that's not a bad thing, just as long as it is nice to hold and play games with.
Having skipped to the last page (so sorry if it was answered already), does anyone know how many controllers will be able to hook up to this thing at once?
Having skipped to the last page (so sorry if it was answered already), does anyone know how many controllers will be able to hook up to this thing at once?
WordAssassin
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Apparently four to each Xbox, with some kind of channel thing ala the Wavebird to keep them from getting mixed up at LAN parties.
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AniHawk said:
Anything for the guy who got me interested in Bone.