Xbox One: Details on Connectivity, Licensing (24 hour check-in) and Privacy Features

legacyzero said:
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Are all this people viral marketeers? I didn't realized that those practices where such a big thing. Is that even effective to convince or force people into something? Serious question.
 
Whipped Spartan said:
Don't try to reason with the hive mind.
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That's a forbidden word
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Neuromancer said:
'As we move into this new generation of games and entertainment, from time to time, Microsoft may change its policies, terms, products and services to reflect modifications and improvements to our services, feedback from customers and our business partners or changes in our business priorities and business models or for other reasons. We may also cease to offer certain services or products for similar reasons.'

Fucking ominous
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they are hoping to be DD only in 3 years... mark it.
 
jschreier said:
Craziest thing about the 24-hour checkin is the thought that in 20 years, or whenever Microsoft's servers go down, the console will just straight-up no longer play video games.
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And even that's a generous assumption, considering they shut down the original Xbox's servers after only 8 1/2 years.
 
AlanzTalon said:
none of this bothers me. my internet works, i never plan to buy a disc again so long a digital downloads are available, and my friends can buy their own shit.

and Kinect can listen all it wants. I aint ashamed or paranoid.
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this seems backwards to me. Digital downloads are likely to be more expensive than retail and offer no benefits. After installing, a physical disc is effectively identical to a download, but retailers are likely to sell for less due to competition.

it isn't like current consoles where you might choose to pay a digital premium to not need the disc in the machine
 
Neuromancer said:
'As we move into this new generation of games and entertainment, from time to time, Microsoft may change its policies, terms, products and services to reflect modifications and improvements to our services, feedback from customers and our business partners or changes in our business priorities and business models or for other reasons. We may also cease to offer certain services or products for similar reasons.'

Fucking ominous
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That statement pretty much sums up Microsoft since their inception to the games industry.
 
What blows my mind more than shills are the people who will blindly follow this company that is completely throwing their rights as a consumer and gamer to the wind or will do so just for bullshit exclusive promises for a game probably made by a publisher who is forcing these horrible tactics.

Nothing has made me feel comfortable about anything next gen. Microsoft has completely shit the bed in my eyes and Sony being silent or leaving things to the pubs is making me really not want to even bother at this point. I really hope next gen we get journalists worth a damn willing to investigate and inform us of how bad this industry is ducking itself right now because I'm not foolish enough to believe the bad news won't stop this stuff from exploding into the mainstream and more of what has held true for console gamers gets stripped more and more.

What hurts the most are the game devs work for companies that refuse to change their business models and spent all generation chasing CoD instead of pushing the medium forward.Now we are not only getting punished for their mistakes and problems with the market but will be saddled with more "AAA" games that aren't worth a damn, same shit different toilet bs.
 
As shitty as this convoluted mess is, it would've been thousand times better if MS laid it out like this way since start. Sulking away and giving unscripted, disastrous PR answers for the past several weeks could have been avoided. I still don't know what their strategy is moving forward in answering questions, now that they've canceled the PR roundtable.
 
Kung Fu Grip said:
Wow at the people saying "it's better than we thought" "it's pretty good".

Ha ha? This shit shouldn't exist in the first place.
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Maybe that was the plan all along? LOL

Spread rumors about how terrible it was actually going to be, then scale back a bit so it looks better than it really is.
 
Biker19 said:
I doubt it. They're not dumb enough to risk the entire PS brand after it took many years for them to get the division back on it's feet earlier.
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I can't imagine their system would be much different. If it didn't have the same DRM policies in place, then they would risk big 3rd parties like EA and Activision walking away.
 
Hopefully the XBO flops super hard, and if Microsoft, and their anti-consumer agenda, gets out of the gaming business entirely that's even better. Your move, Sony, let's see if I can buy me a PS4.

Anyways, the hilarious part is that before the XBO event their DRM and no-Used mantra was even stricter, I got a few surprises I wasn't expecting in there and I had confirmed infos just a couple of weeks before the XBO reveal.
 
Neuromancer said:
24 hour online check is the biggest bummer to me. Everything else I could live with, I hate the idea of no used games but I'd combat that by waiting for a sale or the bargain bin for every single game I bought. But I can't justify the 24 hour check, there'd be no way around it. You're being treated like a criminal, only allowed permission to play the games you've bought if MS decides it's OK. For all the comparisons to Steam I've been seeing for weeks, this is a thousand times worse than Steam which at least has the common decency of an offline mode.
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This is really the main thing that bothers me about it.
 
You guys can be upset and not buy it. I'm going to be sharing games with my 10 friends. No problem with buying whatever console or PC you want.
 
Durante said:
Conversely, I talked to someone two days ago (who is not a huge enthusiast, but a regular gamer and 360 owner) and he surprised me by telling me there's no way he will get a One. But the really awesome part was this: he referred to some "animation based on se7en" which made up his mind -- over the course of our conversation I identified this as a NeoGAF gif. People are doing the lord's work here!
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Awesome lol
 
consoul said:
They really could have branded this communication better.
Something like:

What is the maximum number of days my console can be offline before it refuses to play all my games?
ONE.

How many people in my family can play my games at the same time as me?
ONE.

If a publisher allows it, how many times can a game be given to somebody else?
ONE.

How many months does someone have to be on my Friends list before I could give them a game?
ONE.

Xbox ONE.
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This post :lol
 
jschreier said:
Craziest thing about the 24-hour checkin is the thought that in 20 years, or whenever Microsoft's servers go down, the console will just straight-up no longer play video games.
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Not defending any of this, but since this console does require an internet connection every 24 hours no matter what, It's no improbable to assume that MS could issue a dashboard update negating the DRM check-ins before it ever came to that point.
 
DocTarHeel said:
Maybe that was the plan all along? LOL

Spread rumors about how terrible it was actually going to be, then scale back a bit so it looks better than it really is.
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This makes the whole "Sony are they listening" thread even more hilarious. It should of stayed focused on Sony like others were saying because, as we can now see, MS made up their minds along time ago.

Ha ha?
 
Gammacide said:
Seriously, anyone with an ounce of concern over their privacy should look at this and take particular note of slide 4 where it shows Microsoft becoming the first company to join the NSA's PRISM program to collect data on users. This is definitely one of the more troubling things I have ever seen to have it laid out so plainly.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-collection-documents/

If you doubt your privacy because of Kinect 2.0 and its always-on policy, PLEASE READ THIS and RECONSIDER YOUR PURCHASE.
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I kinda feel this is thread worthy... or is there already a thread on it?

I mean, this shit is... troubling.
 
it would be nice if they take some of the savings and pass it on to consumers in the form of cheaper retail prices.

somehow I don't think that's part of the plan.
 
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