Xbox One: Details on Connectivity, Licensing (24 hour check-in) and Privacy Features
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Welp, that's it for me.
I bought an OG Xbox at midnight launch. A 360 about a month in. I bought an extra controller, two controller packs and fourteen new games before a year of unemployment forced me to sell. I bought a PS3 once I was again gainfully enployed and have bought 30+ new games. I am more financially secure than at any point in my life and currently have several games preordered. I will be buying a PS4 at launch with probably several games.
Sony won my loyalty this generation. My PS3/4, PC, 3DS, Vita, and probably eventually WiiU will serve me just fine. None of these things even personally effect me. I have 50mb/s internet (not fantastic, but nothing to scoff at with its 250GB monthly cap). I have already bought fifty games on my Vita and 5 on my recently obtained 3DS.
You just lost a sale MS.
Crackdown isn't going to pull me in.
Halo isn't going to pull me in.
Forza isn't going to pull me in.
Gears isn't going to pull me in.
Hell, I don't even have cable.
I spent $200 a few months ago when Sony had their spend50/get10 promotion.
You just lost an untold amount of money.
There's only one game that would force my hand on XB1 and that's Fallout.
Good job Microsoft, you just lost a potential customer.
I bought an OG Xbox at midnight launch. A 360 about a month in. I bought an extra controller, two controller packs and fourteen new games before a year of unemployment forced me to sell. I bought a PS3 once I was again gainfully enployed and have bought 30+ new games. I am more financially secure than at any point in my life and currently have several games preordered. I will be buying a PS4 at launch with probably several games.
Sony won my loyalty this generation. My PS3/4, PC, 3DS, Vita, and probably eventually WiiU will serve me just fine. None of these things even personally effect me. I have 50mb/s internet (not fantastic, but nothing to scoff at with its 250GB monthly cap). I have already bought fifty games on my Vita and 5 on my recently obtained 3DS.
You just lost a sale MS.
Crackdown isn't going to pull me in.
Halo isn't going to pull me in.
Forza isn't going to pull me in.
Gears isn't going to pull me in.
Hell, I don't even have cable.
I spent $200 a few months ago when Sony had their spend50/get10 promotion.
You just lost an untold amount of money.
There's only one game that would force my hand on XB1 and that's Fallout.
Good job Microsoft, you just lost a potential customer.
Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
Are you saying the 24 hour check-in servers are going to last forever?
And what about used systems.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
No it's not.
His answer will probably be something along the lines of...why would I care because I already played those games 10 years ago, yadda yadda yadda.
I disagree with your opinions.
Also, how many friends will you be sharing with?
Spat_triate
Member
Here's the whole conversation
I hope I don't come off as a MS employee and get banned for this.
This shit storm is a result of those answers.
Why not. MS have clear history in this.
Buy any music from the now defunct MSN music store? The DRM on it no longer allows you access since the service ended (and replaced by the entirely separate and incompatible Zune music store).
http://arstechnica.com/information-...s-redux-microsoft-to-nuke-msn-music-drm-keys/
So yeah, once the authentication servers go offline, the DRM will prevent you from using the media.
Uno Venova
Banned
This apparently:
Ah now, I get it, one of the approved retailers obviously.
This whole thing is just a massive clusterfuck. Like, more than Sony's $599 clusterfuck. Well, now that all of this BS been confirmed, there's no chance I'm ever going to pick one up.
Lets just hope Sony doesn't try to pull the same thing. I would much rather EA, Activision and Ubisoft implement their own DRM BS on their own games while everything else is fine. Because I don't buy their games anyway (and especially not after this).
At least Sony has said in previous interviews you don't have to be online to play games. So that's what's giving me hope right now.
Lets just hope Sony doesn't try to pull the same thing. I would much rather EA, Activision and Ubisoft implement their own DRM BS on their own games while everything else is fine. Because I don't buy their games anyway (and especially not after this).
At least Sony has said in previous interviews you don't have to be online to play games. So that's what's giving me hope right now.
- MS will be selling non-physical products as well. All games will be available digitally.
- Both the downloadable files from Steam and the discs from Game Stop have copy protection. They are exactly the same thing, but acquired through a different medium.
- Ergo, they are no inherently different products.
IHaveCandy
Banned
I will gladly spend a 1/5th of the price of the game and not be guaranteed the ability to play that game forever and ever.
They have an interestingly singular definition of friends.This apparently:
Randolph Freelander
Member
"That's backwards."
wow this is a mess
Indeed.
Also, the NeoGAF User Highlighter add-on highlights your posts for me, and it drives me crazy.
Since when is any kind of change automatically good?
webkatt
Member
Lol I'd venture a yes knowing MS's track record. Technically it's online so you'll need Gold.
Long ago I needed code to redeem a code for dlc for some game. i forgot what it was. but as it was through the game's in-store menu, it constituted an online feature not covered by my trial sub.
might have been a godfather dlc character that came with the game
I have a feeling the precedent isn't being set by MS, but by publisher demands. Look at how Hollywood tries to do similar things (once again, you can't rent a lot of movies until over a month later on redbox).
If anything, this announcement could be an extremely smart move on MS part. Get it out of the way now, let people cool down, then announcement content at E3.
If Sony has to make similar announcements, they'll either have to beat around the bush at E3, or do it during their conference. I'm sure it will be a question for them.
My guess, from Sony's side, they will say "It's up to publishers."
UberTag
Member
WE ARE THE ENEMY.
EA said strategic partnership in the Microsoft conference I thought. It was only unprecedented in the Nintendo one.
Being online may be a better experience.
FORCING online? Fuck that. (Ignoring MMOs which are purely online games... and playing them is purely optional)
Options, people want, need options, not fucking force-fed bullshit!
Thread worthy? That shit is congressional hearing worthy.
Yeah, seems like GameStop is supporting it.
Because they benefit from his
its essentially a monopoly for them
One is an open platform, the other isn't.
I've been on defcon 3 since reading about PRISM, but including Kinect as a secret monitoring device isn't feasible. Anyone can run a packet sniffer to see what data the Xbox is uploading, and I assume people will be doing the same for the next Xbox.
But then there's the recordings users have already uploaded to Microsoft's cloud servers. Those on the other hand...
BlazingDarkness
Member
It's not a fear of change.
It's the gag reflex quivering as Microsoft ram their corporate cocks down our throats.
It's the gag reflex quivering as Microsoft ram their corporate cocks down our throats.
Puppet Shadow
Member
Sure he deserved it. NDA's are a big part of the industry. If you release information you're not allowed to (or in this case, very strongly implied), you'll be fired.
great post
Yeah, seems like GameStop is supporting it.
Of course they are, they benefit from this in a major way. Mum and pop stores out the way, private buying, selling and lending gone too. Bastards. No wonder they didn't care.
Get the feeling they'll be fucked over in the long run anyway mind.
Yeah, seems like GameStop is supporting it.
Well like a lot of us have said who do you think is the "authorized resller" was going to be Now it is confirmed it was not a move against gamestop but against consumers.
What the fuck...
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Ugh.
Is the tar and feathers ready?
I took a real quick look at Jaffe's views on Twitter. Seems like he's against the online checking thing and all but not against the waiting to rent or sell/trade-in policy. Looks like he compares it to seeing a new movie and having to wait a couple months or so for it being released for rent. I like the guy and see his point on the used game system, since he's not really against used games.
All in all, I'm really bummed by all this. I'm ready to just say screw it and join the Xbone boycott but honestly, I don't want to do that until I know what Sony is going to do.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
This sounds amazing!!! I can finally just stop thinking for myself and let MS and the night publishers do all the thinking for me. Frees up my mind so I can concentrate on other more important things. Love ya MS.
Totally. And people are just supposed to spread our legs open and get our taints kicked?
Also AAA games for $35-$40 at launch, $10 on sale. Games that will be completely backwards compatible with any future hardware purchase. Games whose life will be extended by modding. Games that can be played offline.
An open platform made that palatable and even beneficial to consumers, something which won't exist on the new Xbox.
fatgamecat
Member
Sony is probably allowing publishers to implement whatever DRM they want, but it will be on their own dime. Think of online passes and such on PS3. I fully expect EA, Activision, and Ubisoft games to have similar DRM restrictions on PS4.
Smaller publishers on the other hand probably can't afford or don't want to.
So, goodbye $1.50/day redbox rentals (with usually the first day free).
Delusibeta
Banned
I bought a significant portion of Telltale Games' back catalogue, including the complete Walking Dead series, for four bucks last week. I don't particularly care about reselling games that came out at approximately $0.75 each. I do care about reselling games that costs me $60, however.
TeflonFong
Neo Member
Hurricane Season 2014 - Let's Not Play
Fuuuuuck that.
It can just be a bunch of 1s and 0s sending back to Microsoft that represent various variables they monitor such as keywords, times you're at home, number of people home, and on and on. People don't really have any sure fire way to know what is being sent back.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
LMAO! They actually need to put out a pamphlet trying to educate people on how beneficial their console is?
I mean, if that isn't just a MASSIVE statement in and of itself of how far they've screwed the pooch, I don't know what is.
What kind of company needs to do this sort of thing?
I mean, if that isn't just a MASSIVE statement in and of itself of how far they've screwed the pooch, I don't know what is.
What kind of company needs to do this sort of thing?
Hey guys,
I cannot remember the last time I traded in software or sold it to someone else.
I am done with my license of Windows 7 (on Linux/GNU now), and I am not sure how to sell it to my friend. Can someone help me?
I would also like to sell my copy of Sublime Text Editor and Adobe Photoshop.
I cannot remember the last time I traded in software or sold it to someone else.
I am done with my license of Windows 7 (on Linux/GNU now), and I am not sure how to sell it to my friend. Can someone help me?
I would also like to sell my copy of Sublime Text Editor and Adobe Photoshop.