Wastelander92
Member
For example, it has Re2/3/7 but not Village for some reason. Da fug MS? Also missing all the From game, stuff like Hogwarts Legacy, and for some reason Silent Hill f is on there but not MGS Delta? Really weird choices MS.
Xbox PC store's biggest problem is its inconsistency
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clarky
Gold Member
That its a bag of mince is its biggest problem, not that its missing some random titles.
Also why would you want to buy/preorder games like that from the most expensive store on the internet?
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Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Jez from the gaming grindhouse podcast went over all this in detail. Basically this "integration" and Xbox store on pc is a joke.
Durin
Member
The ability to even sort and discover content in general is an even bigger problem on their PC and console storefront...and that's the thing that makes them money.
Many of these console companies now that retail stores are fading, need to improve their digital storefronts. Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo all have barebone storefronts that mostly just advertise the new big games (or their 1st-2nd party games) that already have the marketing budgets to reach people, but don't do great at showcasing anything smaller or older. They waste screen-space, have basic sorting options, and don't do much to learn about your purchasing tastes from the data they're already collecting.
Steam wasn't great for a while right after the flood of early access/greenlight, but it forced them to create solutions around those problems.
Many of these console companies now that retail stores are fading, need to improve their digital storefronts. Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo all have barebone storefronts that mostly just advertise the new big games (or their 1st-2nd party games) that already have the marketing budgets to reach people, but don't do great at showcasing anything smaller or older. They waste screen-space, have basic sorting options, and don't do much to learn about your purchasing tastes from the data they're already collecting.
Steam wasn't great for a while right after the flood of early access/greenlight, but it forced them to create solutions around those problems.
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th4tguy
Member
It's ok because next Xboxes will let you install Steam
Jayjayhd34
Gold Member
I don't get these called problems it downloads pre loads super fast and boots game in less than sec where mentality to hate anything you dont agree with come from.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
What Microsoft is finding out is that people generally prefer Steam mainly because Steam / Valve are pretty agile and quick to add consumer-focused features. Discovery in the store has been getting constant refinement for years. Dynamic search filters, easy to use wishlist functionality, reviews, curators, genre hubs, user tags, refunds, franchise grouping, community integration with friends, etc. are all features that most other stores lack.
Take if from a guy who has developed a few of the features that were cribbed by Valve - it's actually kind of hard work. Not only does it take manpower and resources, but you have to have the ability to understand your customer's needs to be able to cater to them successfully. You can't just throw money at the problem, you have to hire talented and passionate people who can make these changes without getting stonewalled by committees, or bogged down with pointless corporate nonsense.
It's the reason Epic hasn't really been able to make much of a foothold in the PC games space. And it's the reason Microsoft will inevitably fail in this endeavor.
Take if from a guy who has developed a few of the features that were cribbed by Valve - it's actually kind of hard work. Not only does it take manpower and resources, but you have to have the ability to understand your customer's needs to be able to cater to them successfully. You can't just throw money at the problem, you have to hire talented and passionate people who can make these changes without getting stonewalled by committees, or bogged down with pointless corporate nonsense.
It's the reason Epic hasn't really been able to make much of a foothold in the PC games space. And it's the reason Microsoft will inevitably fail in this endeavor.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
None of that is MS"s choice.
It's developers who ported to the Windows Store, which is not all that well supported because it sucks dick and nobody uses it but GamePass gamers.
Which is what this entire initiative is about, 2 things:
- Converting XBox gamers to PC gamers
- Trying to take market share form Steam in the PC space
Oh yeah a 3rd thing:
- Gaslighting everyone constantly about what an Xbox is lol
It's developers who ported to the Windows Store, which is not all that well supported because it sucks dick and nobody uses it but GamePass gamers.
Which is what this entire initiative is about, 2 things:
- Converting XBox gamers to PC gamers
- Trying to take market share form Steam in the PC space
Oh yeah a 3rd thing:
- Gaslighting everyone constantly about what an Xbox is lol
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Donald mac Ronald
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Does anyone know why games in windows store are a different version of feel like they are behind from steam versions, even missing features sometimes.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Third party games in the Windows Store (and any digital storefront) have to be updated by the developers / publishers. Most developers publish their 1.0 version on the Windows Store and call it a day, even if they keep developing new features and things for the same game on Steam.
Microsoft has a QA process that's pretty lengthy and fairly harsh (a side effect of their Xbox / console business), which makes most developers not want to go through the hassle of updating their code. For reference, on Steam it's 100% automated, and they don't have to interact with real people like they do on the Windows Store.
GOG has this same problem as well, though they're less restrictive than Microsoft.
Again, Steam / Valve has figured out that automating this process has led to a greater number of developers preferring to release their games on Steam.
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clarky
Gold Member
its got better than it was but its functionality is very poor compared to Steam.
Bloody expensive as well.
clarky
Gold Member
Missing features? Like what?
NVM I see you mean updated later.
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Wastelander92
Member
Kinda bad if big publishers/franchises are missing from the biggest company's store.
clarky
Gold Member
They aren't the market leader by a long shot though. Makes a difference.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
the absolute state of EGS is proof that market share is gonna be nearly impossible to claw away from Steam, and I have no idea why MS would try.
- most popular game on the planet is exclusive to EGS
- they have been giving out legitimately free games with no strings attached since it's inception
- multiple popular GaaS like Genshin are on EGS and not Steam
- moneyhatted big exclusives (thankfully they seem to have slowed this down)
All of this adds up to astronomical customer acquisition costs that have went basically nowhere. And EGS is a much better launcher than Xbox.
- most popular game on the planet is exclusive to EGS
- they have been giving out legitimately free games with no strings attached since it's inception
- multiple popular GaaS like Genshin are on EGS and not Steam
- moneyhatted big exclusives (thankfully they seem to have slowed this down)
All of this adds up to astronomical customer acquisition costs that have went basically nowhere. And EGS is a much better launcher than Xbox.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Certification.
MS has to cert every build/update.
Steam devs/pubs handle when an update goes live once its on the Steam servers.
The MSStore version might be behind a version because that build is still going through cert.
Anime-Vix
Member
The Xbox PC store is a mess. There have not been any visual or UI updates since it launch. The Xbox team has been focusing on improving everything else in the Xbox app. Im pretty sure the Xbox PC store is going to go through a relaunch before the next Xbox releases. Once they relaunch the store, it is going to have a lot more support since the team focusing on bringing games to the Xbox console are going to redirect its focus to bring games to the Xbox PC store.
Jayjayhd34
Gold Member
It's expensive because people would still hate on it, it's become so common place to hate on everything ms and people can't see how this is destroying the industry. If ms where still competitive we'd had tonnes and tonnes of Sony exclusives sad really.
. All I want to do is enjoy my game I'll buy it on the cheapest platform and doesn't buying pc give you console version too ?
HRK69
Gold Member
Write them a letter
Donald mac Ronald
Member
And people wonder why gamers avoid it like the plague. I hate using it myself.
clarky
Gold Member
Sorry your post make no sense.
Generic
Member
Some people delete native windows 10/11 features to "debloat" the PC and then for some mysterious reason Microsoft Store becomes bugged.