If they can't release the game on the current hardware, save it for the 3DS successor. I'd feel better buying that instead of this 3DS with an over clock and a C stick nub.
Xenoblade announced for New 3DS
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The_Darkest_Red
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How about backing up this claim with an actual post?
With DSi it was made pretty clear that the only software addition was going to be small downloadable titles on DSiWare. It was a fairly inconsequential addition that came off as more of an added feature than an attempt to stifle support for existing DS systems. In this case it seems much more likely that fully fledged retail releases for the 3DS will not be playable on my 3DS XL, which is simply a betrayal of consumer trust on the part of Nintendo.
With that said, I didn't really like what Nintendo did with DSi either.
Except they are left with the lingering idea that this is just the begining and there will be more New3ds only games and 3ds games with new 3ds only features. They are left with the thought that their system just got made irrelevant by the idea that Nintendo may be paying attention to thier new slightly better 3ds.
Ahhhh the iphone analogy my favorite since it doesn't relate at all.
No, in this case, it can. I've realized that the pricing is actually lower than a 3DS and 3DSXL. Maybe they're expecting people to trade it in for the newer one, which would lower the price even further.
People who bought it recently are only a small part of the "current millions of 3DS owners" and what they're experiencing is fairly common whenever a new revision is announced. This revision also isn't hitting for quite some time so if you bought it recently you can easily get your moneys worth or you can cut your losses, sell it and move on.
I don't feel like there's a drought but even if assume there is, the impact of the New 3DS has yet to be seen. There's no reason to assume that games on the current 3DS will be abandoned especially when it has the established market.
If the concern is cost of entry then gbc and dsi absolutely apply. And many games were locked behind the peripherals too, which is the same principle too even if the cost was different. The point stands that this isn't unexpected from Nintendo.
littletran22
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damn, i never played xenoblade before and wanted to try it, but I already have a 3DS and I love it already...
I suppose I can give my 3DS to my niece and go stalker mode with this sexy machine
I suppose I can give my 3DS to my niece and go stalker mode with this sexy machine
Skyfireblaze
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For me as a OG 3DS user this New 3DS is great news with many and I will update if reasonable trade-in programs pop up but since this topic is about Xenoblade, let me say the following. I can understand the outrage of some people, especially those who bought the 3DS XL/LL though in my opinion this is okay if Nintendo uses the new CPU exclusively for Wii ports. Heck it's a miracle Xenoblade with its scale ran on the Wii and people honestly expect this to be able to run on normal 3DS hardware? o.o
From what I've seen even with the new CPU the port looks really rough so I don't want to imagine how it would look without it, or rather how slow it would run :/ Like said I understand the outrage about the split userbase though aslong as Nintendo doesn't make original 3DS games "New Only" I think it's entirely reasonable by them to use this for Wii ports only which very likely wouldn't even exist without this CPU.
From what I've seen even with the new CPU the port looks really rough so I don't want to imagine how it would look without it, or rather how slow it would run :/ Like said I understand the outrage about the split userbase though aslong as Nintendo doesn't make original 3DS games "New Only" I think it's entirely reasonable by them to use this for Wii ports only which very likely wouldn't even exist without this CPU.
I can't stop crazy screaming and crying since this is the most hype news ever!!!! I'm literally playing xenoblade right now and I'm so close to finishing it! I was worried I wouldn't have time to do more side content since this game is an evil back log creator. The new 3ds version though......I WILL DO EVERYTHING!
Perfect. :lol
Quadraphonic
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This outrage isn't because it's a new console line.
The outrage is because this is a stopgap measure and that a new proper 3DS sequel is shortly away.
To upgrade, one needs to have it justified and bumping the processor speed and adding a C-nipple is not enough to most people to justify spending another $200.
If we were sure that this would be the only upgrade in the next 2 years, it might be worth it. But by then, the 3DS is only going to look worse and worse. This is a Band-Aid on a bigger problem. And that's why many people are resisting it.
The outrage is because this is a stopgap measure and that a new proper 3DS sequel is shortly away.
To upgrade, one needs to have it justified and bumping the processor speed and adding a C-nipple is not enough to most people to justify spending another $200.
If we were sure that this would be the only upgrade in the next 2 years, it might be worth it. But by then, the 3DS is only going to look worse and worse. This is a Band-Aid on a bigger problem. And that's why many people are resisting it.
Shit.
To be honest, this new 3DS feels like Nintendo testing some new ideas before releasing their true successor. Especially when one considers that the new 3DS is cheaper than a regular 3DS. They're probably making it easier to buy (especially if you can trade your old one in) to soften the blow.
Now, if this hardware was $200-$300, I'd understand the rage more. But at it's price, no, I really can't.
Says who?
HolyBaikal
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Nintendo is doing a lot of nice things lately. 
metalslimer
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Also I'm sad because there's no Wii U version or this isn't a title for a next gen successor on hardware. Even something like Vita would have been able to run it without any issues.
Why save it for the 3DS successor when they can save it for the successor's successor? This line of thinking leads nowhere.
That is left to be seen. Considering that Nintendo is the only company that worries about making their systems backwards compatible I doubt we'll see a multitude of games exclusive to the new 3DS, it wouldn't even make financial sense.
N3DS features will be a thing though, as it should be, why releases an update of they won't take advantage of it? It's like complaining iPhone 5s users can use the fingerprint scanner when I can't with my iPhone 5.
Says Nintendo?
If this was the real successor the 3ds they sure announced it in a pretty shitty way.
If you don't feel that this is worth it then don't buy it, the rage then us hardly justified, remember this game couldn't run on og 3ds, it isn't as if 3ds owners are denied this game because nintendo is simply CHOOSING to put it here instead if on both solely to push the new console.
Schweinehund
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Novel Idea but pass. Not buying another 3DS.
efyu_lemonardo
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So basically this is "How dare Nintendo make a product that I am slightly ambivalent about buying? They should either make stuff that is "Day 0 deal of the year!!" or stuff that's "LOL shitty Nintendo is so backwards and out of touch!". I refuse to feel conflicted about a possible purchase."
Honestly I want to thank you for explaining that to me on behalf of others sharing your opinion.
I don't remember it being made clear by anyone that DSi content would be inconsequential. Why would any company make such a statement about their products?
Well then good on you for being consistent
I'll have a link then. Thanks.
I don't know. Normally, i would agree with you. But we alreay experienced the opposite of this feared situation once: with the DSi. There was exclusively developed software for the camera etc. (some downloadable games and i think Wario D.I.Y.) and the whole online-shop and the concept of downloadable games and apps (hell, the whole OS) were exclusive to the DSi, yet none of the DS/ DSLite owners seemed to care or felt neglected and normal DS development for all model types went on.
So i'd give them the benefit of doubt here.
@cvxfreak 2m
Xenoblade will not run on the original 3DS.
Wut.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!!!!!
That's some BS. Fuck that shit.
This is... BULLSHIT.
So my 3DSXL it's officially a piece of crap now?
Thanks Nintendo!!!
Selling my 3DS right now and never buying a Nintendo console again...
I sure as shit won't be buying a console of theirs new again. I decided that back when the 3DS price dropped by $70 three months after launch though. This just makes me feel better about my decision.
MillionStabs
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Geez, that trailer looks like its at 24 FPS or something.
This doesn't preclude an upport prior to X on Wii U. This upgrade is being announced prior to smash, and xenoblade is an incentive. They could well announce a Wii U upport prior to X releasing too.
StreetsAhead
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I know I made fun of people still rocking the OG DS in 2010.
KojiKnight
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This... People thinking that Nintendo or ANY other company is just going to forget about 45 million install base is silly. There are going to be 1-2 exclusives just to try and sell the revised hardware, but the majority of games are going to be just for 3DS or have something minor as a bonus.
This is a stop-gap. That's it!
This is not true... They aren't releasing a 3DS2, it's a 3DSi at 'best.'
You can't tell the difference in investing in a new hardware, with an understanding of a few hundred new titles coming out for it, versus buying a revision of a console you already own just to play one game?
So you really think that Nintendo just announced thier brand new next gen handheld system? They did it in a random Nintendo Direct that they casually announced was going to happen. Their star game to show was a Wii port and one that dosen't look that far beyond the 3ds's abilities. They also announced this in a Nintendo Direct said to be about the 3ds and surrounded by 3ds software almost to note that these 3ds games like Bravley Default can be played on this new 3ds. This new 3ds that they announced is a 3ds with a new cpu that can make 3ds software like run better.
This sounds like thier real next handled? That this is the 3ds Successor?
I think it's quite the opposite. This revision means a new handheld will not be launched before 2016. The changes they made to it are to prolong the life of 3ds series and the inclusion of NFC means they are really banking fully on Amiibo.
Looking at the video, there is already a better version of Xenoblade running on Wii U.
HolyBaikal
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So, I guess the original 3DS was around as powerful as the Gamecube?
And maybe this is as powerful as the Wii?
I guess that would make sense. The original 3DS might not be powerful enough to play Xenoblade Chronicles.
I was planning on getting a new 3DS anyway. So having an excuse is nice.
And maybe this is as powerful as the Wii?
I guess that would make sense. The original 3DS might not be powerful enough to play Xenoblade Chronicles.
I was planning on getting a new 3DS anyway. So having an excuse is nice.
efyu_lemonardo
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TheOohChild
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Went from very excited to completely disinterested in about 15 seconds
You aren't obligated to buy said stopgap. And Xenoblade can't run on og 3ds models due to cpu limitations. This hardware is inproved in a ton of ways over past models, if that isn't enough to incentivise a purchase then 3ds and xl still work perfectly fine.
I never said any of that. Those are just your own projections.
I'm just asking for a link where Nintendo says that the 4DS or whatever is almost here. Because that's what the other guy claimed.
Don't buy it if you don't want it.
But the amount of posts you're making in this thread tells me you do actually want it.
And that's weird.
N30RYU
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Is any DSi game not working on a DS?
If game is released just to work on a revision, the console isn't just a revision anymore, but a new console.
DSiWare?
DsI did have a few exclusives so did game boy color.
People probably wouldn't have a problem if it was an actual successor and not something in-between generations. Those systems usually offer enough features to make them feel appealing for fans, but at the same time they don't have enough mass-appeal to get a significant amount of content that makes actually use of its features. Thus making it kind of a frustrating purchase.