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Though the last two are negatives in my eyes as well.
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Though the last two are negatives in my eyes as well.
I'm so here for this and slightly screaming that this things are considered negatives =D
I love that gif.
Dwight Schrute
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Any word on the story in Famitsu ?
(Is it comparable to Xenoblade/Saga ?)
(Is it comparable to Xenoblade/Saga ?)
All we know (from what has been quoted here) is that the explanation for the world is good, but that the cutscenes are too long.
TheGreatLugia
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Hopefully this at least puts the worries about X having less story focus than Xenoblade to rest.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Well, at least this should stop people from freaking out that Takahashi was going to make a game without much of a story. Not that those fears were ever rational.
threelights
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Consult an ether medic to tell him how cool your game is.
Anyway, story in this game was never my concern and tbh, I was baffled at how people thought that.
That being said, 9's and 8's are pretty much what I expect this game to get over here. Specially after the reception of the first game.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Hopefully the cutscenes can be skipped.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that
Cross is the one she is protecting
pilot of the Moby Dick
There were around 10-ish hours of cutscenes in Xenoblade. Xenosaga III had around 8-ish. The difference is the amount of gameplay in between.
Not no matter how you look at it. It may be for some, but I neglected to read the tutorials in Xenoblade, and a lot of the fun I had in the game was figuring out something new every day.
They were shown skipping cutscenes at e3 2014.
On subsequent playthroughs I agree completely. But a big part of rpgs is the story. I mean people can play how they want obviously, but I can't imagine skipping huge sections of the story no matter how long they are. If I'm that impatient then a game like this probably isn't for me in the first place.
haha, SAME
and yes people, you'll be able to skip cutscenes. you were able to skip them in 2002 for Xenosaga 1
Long cutscenes can definitely be a negative if the storytelling is poor, the narration sucks or the voices are terrible. That's what I'm concerned with when even Famitsu says the tempo (pacing?) of the dialogue is too slow, that is not good.
Just hoping NoA's localization team does well.
Just hoping NoA's localization team does well.
Well if people want to skip the first time around, might as well just give them the option right?
Yeah sure, I don't see why not. Like I said, people can play how they want and Xenoblade was a game that let people do just that in a lot of ways. You could rush through it and not even bother with quests or a lot of the systems in place or you could do everything the game had to offer. I'll assume this game will be the same way.
Nintendojitsu
Banned
Famitsu is for casuals confirmed.
A lot of people said that Xenoblade had very poor tutorials and that some systems had no proper explanation... then I played the game and saw that every new mechanic was explained in 3 o 4 panels of texts and diagrams giving very detailed explanations.
There needs to be a balance, too much and people complain tha the game "is holding their hands and don't let them experiment and explore" but too little and the complaints are "the game gives no explanation of it's systems, it's obscure for the sake of being obscure".
I will be happy if the tutorials are the same as the original: nice, quick and on point.
Its happening all over again with xb3d all over miiverse.
People purposefully jam on the a button skip over the tutorials, then instantly complain about not knowing what to do in the fight that starts immediately after the explanation.
This will undoubtedly repeat for X
-to play this enormous world and story you need time and effort
I have the time but I'm honestly not sure I have the effort
Nintendojitsu
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I remember a time when Famitsu would be rubbing it's hands in devilish glee at the very thought of a game like this. Now, the once proud and mighty warrior of old is nothing more than a timid eunuch cowering at the sight of his fabled past.
James Scott
Banned
Those negatives are kind of the opposite of my concerns. I was mostly worried that the main story campaign would suffer from non linearity
Yeah, im just glad they listed them like that, they are definitely positives for me.
Yep, those were the things I was less concerned.
Trevelyan9999
Banned
Well said.
Really though, what game did they expect to play? A 300 hour game is going to have (and it better) some meaty cutscenes. Also, even if the game itself doesn't explain everything perfectly, there have been a ton of tutorials on the game website.
Astral Dog
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lol at too many cutscenes, with people worried the game wasn't going to have any story at all.
probably a step down from Xenoblade though, unless you really like Mechs.
unless the story is really, really bad.
I think you are judging too early, its true that the game is experimenting far more than it first appears, silent MC, different composer, slightly different art direction, focus on vehicles, more gritty story, a few ugly /weird designs, etc. its not just Xenoblade 2, but still can be a great game with an interesting plot, too soon to compare to Other M or FFXIII. these games had their own huge issues.
probably a step down from Xenoblade though, unless you really like Mechs.
Of course they will. I'm sure it's something derived from the plot (in addition to looking totally badass).
pinkurocket
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Weltall Zero
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Hype intensifies.I also consider most of Famitsu's negatives as actual positives. 
We need a western release date. It's OK if it's far down the year or even 2016, but not knowing if the game is one month or one year away is frustrating. Especially since there is nothing else I want right now that has even a Japanese date, either.
I really loved the last stretch of Xenoblade's story: to me it offered a good payoff and most of the twists and lore were well done, yet straightforward enough that you don't need a timeline and relationship chart to understand all of it even playing for the first time (a complaint often, and fairly, leveraged at other Takahashi works). Considering how abysmal most JPG stories ted to be, I can't think of any from the past generation that really tops it (unless you consider P3P part of that generation).
What I'm saying is, if this was crap to you, what JRPG story did you actually enjoy in the past ten years?
We need a western release date. It's OK if it's far down the year or even 2016, but not knowing if the game is one month or one year away is frustrating. Especially since there is nothing else I want right now that has even a Japanese date, either.
I really loved the last stretch of Xenoblade's story: to me it offered a good payoff and most of the twists and lore were well done, yet straightforward enough that you don't need a timeline and relationship chart to understand all of it even playing for the first time (a complaint often, and fairly, leveraged at other Takahashi works). Considering how abysmal most JPG stories ted to be, I can't think of any from the past generation that really tops it (unless you consider P3P part of that generation).
What I'm saying is, if this was crap to you, what JRPG story did you actually enjoy in the past ten years?
Weltall Zero
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Sorry, double post. Internet connection acting up too.
That's not true at all. The only way you need any charts for Xenogears or Xenosaga is if you don't pay attention. The stories aren't nearly as complicated as people try to make them out to be.
She hides her freakish face behind her shield, and then quickly exposes it, rending nearby reality asunder.
Having flashbacks all the way back to Xenosaga ep. 1. I can't see it as much of a negative though if you'll be spending far more time playing the game itself.
Hours Left
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Those negatives are positives. And we English players will benefit from the wealth of information coming soon, so I'm no worried about being lost with the game systems.
I still think she's gonna end up turning into the Monado
Otakumegane
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I think some of those criticisms from a design perspective are pretty valid honestly.
The world is big and all, but there's only so much you can fit in it that's actually very interesting. The game could be a whole lot of good hiding the whole lot of super awesome great. 300hours but how much or that is truly enjoyable? I'd say playing Xenoblade for me even was great had this flaw during some of the sidequests and other optional stuff like grinding out every landmark and area.
Basically this.
The world is big and all, but there's only so much you can fit in it that's actually very interesting. The game could be a whole lot of good hiding the whole lot of super awesome great. 300hours but how much or that is truly enjoyable? I'd say playing Xenoblade for me even was great had this flaw during some of the sidequests and other optional stuff like grinding out every landmark and area.
Basically this.
StarStabbedMoon
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Agreed, I couldn't skip through those tutorials fast enough.
All criticism is valid, it's just a matter of who those opinions relate to. Most of the people who have been following the game closely in this thread were probably more worried the cutscenes were too short and the world too small, and their complaints go a long way of reassuring us even if it's not for everybody.
That said, they rated the game highly. I don't see much reason to read their review negatively despite what has been quoted so far.
foxuzamaki
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Once it got near the end the cutscenes really ramped up in the amount and length, but it wasn't bad because the story was really engaging by that point
Reading some of Gessenkou's translations of excerpts from the Dengeki review and it's all pretty interesting. I appreciate that I can change my avatar if I feel like there's a look I want to go for. :3
Also gotta get rich so I can deck out my Doll Garage (Dollhouse?)
Also gotta get rich so I can deck out my Doll Garage (Dollhouse?)
Xenoblade explain it mechanic terribly , I beat the game with knowing the combat system
And that game is great
Aaronrules380
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Did you read the tutorials, or skip them?
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