Support NeoGAF

[duckroll]

http://www.ocv.ne.jp/~cozy/infor.html

Koji Tsujitani posted on his site under "most recent works" that he is voicing Voyager in XS Ep3. So the game has to be alive... I wonder who the staff are this time! :lol

 

[Suikoguy]

I'm more concerned at this point about Shadow Hearts 3 coming stateside...

 

[C- Warrior]

I'm more concerned at this point about Shadow Hearts 3 coming stateside...

.

 

[Cloudy]

Oh yes!!!!!!1

 

[Wario64]

Xenosaga Episode III (IT LIVES!)

wwhyyyyyy

 

[Red Blaster]

Wasn't Xenosaga intended to have like 8 episodes?

 

[jiggle]

Nice.

 

[C- Warrior]

wwhyyyyyy

.

 

[duckroll]

wwhyyyyyy

Because Namco failed to completely kill the series with Ep2, so they're having another go at it! :lol

 

[ToyMachine228]

Where is Xenosaga DS? Now that should be interesting to see.

 

[Suikoguy]

Where is Xenosaga DS? Now that should be interesting to see.

Wherever Baten Kaitos DS is

 

[Johnas]

Wasn't Xenosaga intended to have like 8 episodes?

Actually it was 6, IIRC. Not sure why I remember that, I have zero to negative interest in the series.

 

[Zeo]

Ugh, the Saga games are such trash. Every time they release one, I just go back and play Gears.

 

[J2 Cool]

Now for Shenmue III!! .....

 

[Tellaerin]

Because Namco failed to completely kill the series with Ep2, so they're having another go at it! :lol

Is there any limit to your hatred of Ep. 2, duckroll?

Thanks for passing along the good news. I enjoyed Ep. 2, despite the fact that it felt more like an extended epilogue to Ep. 1 than a standalone game. (This news also makes me want a US release of Pied Piper in some form more than ever... wasn't that supposed to be coming to the DS in Japan?)

 

[duckroll]

Is there any limit to your hatred of Ep. 2, duckroll?

Hey, I'm far from the only one here.

(This news also makes me want a US release of Pied Piper in some form more than ever... wasn't that supposed to be coming to the DS in Japan?)

Nope, it's just a theory that we have that Xenosaga DS might be Pied Piper. As it stands Xenosaga DS and Baten Kaitos DS are nothing more than entries on lists and nothing more. Nothing was ever announced, mentioned or shown.

 

[Tellaerin]

Nope, it's just a theory that we have that Xenosaga DS might be Pied Piper. As it stands Xenosaga DS and Baten Kaitos DS are nothing more than entries on lists and nothing more. Nothing was ever announced, mentioned or shown.

Damn. Ah well, here's hoping, anyway. A port of Pied Piper is something I'd buy a DS to play.

 

[Soul4ger]

It's really bizarre that they'd end it after three episodes. I'd sooner they let it die.

 

[duckroll]

Damn. Ah well, here's hoping, anyway. A port of Pied Piper is something I'd buy a DS to play.

You and me both. As much as I hate XS Ep2, I only hate because I care. Xeno is something I really like, but only when it's good.

It's really bizarre that they'd end it after three episodes. I'd sooner they let it die.

Not entirely. It's been repeatedly hinted that the Shion-tachi timeline arc was only one part of the saga. While I believe that originally it was possibly supposed to end in Ep2 with a time jump in Ep3, with the current plan it could very well end the Shion-tachi story in Ep3 since the ending of Ep2 set it all up really well. It could be semi-conclusive with an epic final battle and then if Ep3 actually sells enough (if they don't fuck up AGAIN) they can start a new timeline with new characters. Otherwise it wouldn't be an entirely bad place to end the series for good, better than Ep2 anyway.

 

[Mihyaeru]

Can't wait for Xenosaga 2 episode 1!

 

[heidern]

This news is really gonna please Drinky right?

 

[Kiriku]

Even with all the hate going around for Xenogears/Xenosaga, and claims that Xenosaga ep II really sucks ass, I'm still happy the series is alive and kicking after all.

I hope they finish it, as long as it's alive there's hope of it turning out as a sum greater than each of the individual parts. I'm also hoping for a possible Xenogears remake (although it would be called "Xenosaga ep V" I guess), but that would probably require a lot of work and perhaps it wouldn't be allowed by Square-Enix...but damn, it would rock so much.

This reminds me about Xenosaga ep II, which I have yet to try out. Pricedrop ahoy!

 

[RiZ III]

There better be more breasts this time.

 

[LittleTokyo]

I'm pleased, I've enjoyed all the Xeno games.

 

[belgurdo]

Ugh, the Saga games are such trash. Every time they release one, I just go back and play Gears.

Thanks for sharing that with us. Now go post a picture in the Hate thread or something

 

[Prince of Space]

I really like Episode I
I HATED Episode II
Don't fuck this up, Monolith...

 

[cvxfreak]

Is it possible for the third game to feature more than one episode? I've never played the games, but it seems that Shenmue did it successfully.

I'm sure the series isn't dead yet - Namco might still release Xenosaga Episode II Reloaded in Japan which should bring in additional revenue for the series.

 

[kevm3]

They need to postpone Xenosaga 3 to ps3 and make it cel shaded. I don't really like the style they used for Xenosaga II. If they could get something like the artwork in Xenogears in a cel shaded format for ps3, that would be one of the greatest things ever.

 

[TheDiave]

Ugh, the Saga games are such trash.

And Xenogears wasn't? :lol

*sips some cool Haterade*

 

[demi]

I'm more concerned at this point about Shadow Hearts 3 coming stateside...

.

 

[Tellaerin]

They need to postpone Xenosaga 3 to ps3 and make it cel shaded. I don't really like the style they used for Xenosaga II. If they could get something like the artwork in Xenogears in a cel shaded format for ps3, that would be one of the greatest things ever.

I preferred the character models in Ep. 2 to the ones in Ep. 1 because I didn't think the Ep. 1 designs worked well in 3D. Modeling those designs in 3D made the characters look like the contents of a Japanese kid's toy chest had magically come to life to act out a space opera. Had Ep. 1 used those same designs with cel shading instead, I would've been been thrilled instead of put off.

So consider this another vote for cel-shading. The games are always going to be niche titles in NA anyway (and seem to be selling better here than in Japan), so why not aim the next game directly at anime fans with cel-shaded visuals, too?

 

[Kiriku]

I'm more concerned at this point about Shadow Hearts 3 coming stateside...

Then you're obviously posting in the wrong thread...

 

[Amir0x]

And Xenogears wasn't? :lol

*sips some cool Haterade*

SERIOUSLY.

 

[Finaika]

What a nice news to hear to start up the day

Is this for the PS2 or next-gen? Oh and please, please let Kajiura Yuki do the music again...

 

[Bebpo]

This is actually somewhat positive news. After the disaster that was XSep2 (including horrible sales worldwide), there is no doubt the team responsible for XSep2 either got canned or moved do shovelware projects. So with the ep1 team pretty much long gone at this point, and the ep2 team buried 6 feet under, whoever is doing ep3 is most likely an all new team. At this point an unknown team at least gives potential for a good game.

 

[Kobun Heat]

oh yeah. i'm sure they'll fuckin' nail it this time.

 

[CO_Andy]

I hav a friend that's totally nutty about Xenosaga. I'm semi-interested, but interested nevertheless.

It's sad to see the house that developed Chrono Trigger iz crumbling

 

[Tellaerin]

SERIOUSLY.

From what you've said in other threads, you consider virtually every Japanese RPG ever made to be 'trash' in terms of narrative anyway, Amir0x. Coming from you, the Xeno-hate isn't surprising.

To be honest, I'd like to see companies release RPG's that are more to your liking. The genre has the potential to tell all sorts of stories--there's room enough to accomodate all tastes, and I remember you mentioning directions you'd like to see scenario writers explore (and avoid) in JRPG's when we were debating our views on RPG plots. However, as much as you like to sniffily proclaim your disdain for the writing in most of the games out of Japan, I don't think all the things you consider improvements would be universally regarded as such.

IMO, the genre wouldn't be better as a whole if everyone did things 'the Amir0x way'. It would be better for you, certainly. But it wouldn't be an evolution, as you seem to believe. (More like a state change, if anything.) Instead of demanding that the plots and characters in RPGs like Xenosaga (or ToS, for that matter, to name another title I seem to recall you dismissing as trite - correct me if I'm mistaken) should give way to ones you consider 'better' in the future, try accepting the fact that a fair number of people actually enjoy those games for what they are. (And not out of ignorance, either--I'm sure most people out there who are fans of these games have been exposed to movies you consider well-written in their lives, too. So try to strangle your gut reflex to ridicule those people for their supposedly inferior taste. I'm not a big Earthbound fan, but you won't see me making snide remarks about the people who enjoyed it for what it was.) They're just measuring their gaming experiences against different benchmarks than you do, and they are not wrong for that. I'm all for encouraging game developers to expand their scope in terms writing and game mechanics, but that doesn't mean they should stop catering to their existing audiences, no matter how much you may disdain said audiences.

 

[duckroll]

oh yeah. i'm sure they'll fuckin' nail it this time.

 

[B.K.]

It's rumored that this week's Famitsu is going to have Episode III in it. According to the rumors, there are supposed to be screenshots and the title is going to be Xenosaga Episode III: Götzen-Dämmerung, or Twilight of the Idols.

 

[Drinky Crow]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

let it die

They're just measuring their gaming experiences against different benchmarks than you do, and they are not wrong for that.

If their benchmark is sixth-grade fanfiction, then sure, they aren't WRONG per se; they're just DUMB.

 

[Dead]

I'll buy it.


And I'll hate myself for it.

 

[Bebpo]

It's rumored that this week's Famitsu is going to have Episode III in it. According to the rumors, there are supposed to be screenshots and the title is going to be Xenosaga Episode III: Götzen-Dämmerung, or Twilight of the Idols.

NEED SCANS NOW

 

[B.K.]

Me too. I'm waiting for them.

 

[Kobun Heat]

Hopefully it's for ps3.

Not if it's in next week's Famitsu.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

I just won't learn. After the lackluster Episode II I probably shouldn't be excited...but dammit, I am.

 

[Zeo]

From what you've said in other threads, you consider virtually every Japanese RPG ever made to be 'trash' in terms of narrative anyway, Amir0x. Coming from you, the Xeno-hate isn't surprising.

To be honest, I'd like to see companies release RPG's that are more to your liking. The genre has the potential to tell all sorts of stories--there's room enough to accomodate all tastes, and I remember you mentioning directions you'd like to see scenario writers explore (and avoid) in JRPG's when we were debating our views on RPG plots. However, as much as you like to sniffily proclaim your disdain for the writing in most of the games out of Japan, I don't think all the things you consider improvements would be universally regarded as such.

IMO, the genre wouldn't be better as a whole if everyone did things 'the Amir0x way'. It would be better for you, certainly. But it wouldn't be an evolution, as you seem to believe. (More like a state change, if anything.) Instead of demanding that the plots and characters in RPGs like Xenosaga (or ToS, for that matter, to name another title I seem to recall you dismissing as trite - correct me if I'm mistaken) should give way to ones you consider 'better' in the future, try accepting the fact that a fair number of people actually enjoy those games for what they are. (And not out of ignorance, either--I'm sure most people out there who are fans of these games have been exposed to movies you consider well-written in their lives, too. So try to strangle your gut reflex to ridicule those people for their supposedly inferior taste. I'm not a big Earthbound fan, but you won't see me making snide remarks about the people who enjoyed it for what it was.) They're just measuring their gaming experiences against different benchmarks than you do, and they are not wrong for that. I'm all for encouraging game developers to expand their scope in terms writing and game mechanics, but that doesn't mean they should stop catering to their existing audiences, no matter how much you may disdain said audiences.

I like you.

But yeah, isn't Episode 3 going to have a lot of new people working on it? Maybe it'll turn out pretty good. (I hope.)

 

[Starfire]

I really wasn't interested in XS Ep. I untill I divorced it completely from Xenogears and just took the story for what it was. I was fairly hyped for Ep.II by that time.....then it came out. Now I'm not sure what to think, with a new team, it could easily be the best...or the worst in the series.

I do hope they tie it back in with Xenogears eventually though, that would be awesome or even an episode focusing on all the main XG charecters ancestry

Spoiler

Maybe something along the lines of a further explanation of the relationship between Roni, Krellian, and Lacan, seeing as the last half of the game seemed to leave lots of details a little unfleshed

I'm not even sure any of that would even be doable however, with Square-Enix still in posession of the legal rights.

 

[Arcticfox]

I really enjoyed Episode I. It was far from perfect, but even the oft-worshipped Xenogears had some huge flaws.

I haven't gotten around to playing Episode II yet, but even if it sucked I like this news about the continuation of the series. It may not have been done correctly yet, but there is still promise left in the Xeno series.

 

[tino]

Wasn't Xenosaga intended to have like 8 episodes?

That's Star Wars.