Holy Order Sol
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Yeah, some stuff is from the final chapter.
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Yakuza 0 |OT| Yes, you can start with this one!
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Yeah, some stuff is from the final chapter.
Out_Of_Ammo
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Good thing I resisted the urge to watch it earlier. Thanks for the heads up.
Kain-Nosgoth
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amazing, subscribed
Son Of Sparda
Member
Can't say I agree with him. The story in Yakuza 0 is very amazing and really focused (especially in the second half).
Also, HUGE SPOILERS.
You will get your answer in another subquest (Mr. Libido if you are wondering).
Ahhhhhh! I better get looking for the randy bastard around town.
Shadowman16
Member
Pretty much. Jenny is stats wise the best girl especially if you land a hit with her most powerful attack (should 1-2 hit KO anyone) but there is still AI cheating in the game - sometimes its completely impossible to win the button mashing segments if you both select the same attack. Basically only do this game if your aiming for 100%/platinum trophy completion. Your sanity will thank you.
I found it more immediate and engaging. The Real Estate game has a lot of running around town trying to find buildings to buy and a lot of time waiting for enough payouts to be able to afford buying a new building or investing in the ones you've already bought.
Cabaret was short and fun. The Personal Training parts were a bit long and involved at times but they were manageable. The actual real-time running of the club was frenetic enough to be enjoyable as well as having to pay attention while serving customers. There's a certain level of learning involved as well as the longer I played the more I could juggle 'check please's with accommodating a new guest, picking the right time to give the girl a gift or to offer an extension, when to hit Party Time.It's something I got better at the longer I dedicated time to it. Picking a good cast, redressing the girls to maximise their potential, balancing serious sessions to training sessions. I found it fun and some of the side stories and situations were quite funny. Real Estate, by comparison, I found to be quite repetitive and time consuming while the Cabaret section kept progress always within reach and with a quicker pace of progress.
Peroroncino
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Aww man, fuck him for saying story sucks. :x
Whoops... I misread your earlier post... I don't think this is touched on re: Serena, it was Earth Angel I was thinking of for Mr. Libido! Wrong bar! Wrong mama!
CrichtonKicks
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When there is trouble in the Cabaret, how do you know whether to side with the girl or the patron?
eyeball_kid
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Real estate isn't very fun for me because it just seems like managing a spreadsheet. You never really see any of your employees working and you can't go and actually visit your properties. AFAIK upgrading the ranking of your properties doesn't even upgrade the exterior. It just feels very shallow and sort of meaningless. On top of that, having to run across town every few minutes to collect a new payout and juggle staff gets tedious.
The cabaret management feels warmer, more like a real, living business. Your employees are right there working their asses off, you can have 1v1 time with your platinum hostesses, and from a UI perspective it's just more respectful of your time.
SiegfriedFM
Member
I ended up mostly parking Kiryu in the office while I was doing something else, and just checking back every ten minutes to collect.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Same.
What's fun about Real Estate? Personally it was a bit boring for me. There's not much interactivity to it, it's pretty much just waiting for the next payment to come through.
If they are mega rich I'd always side with them and try and make them stay, the rest don't really matter, so just do whatever you like. You can switch girls after choosing, so if they are still sad afterwards I'd try a new girl when they become available.
I'm at the beginning of Ch 15 but damn Ch 13 Oda's
Both were awesome to me in their own ways. I'm a finance/business person in real life, so I loved them both.
heel turn goddamn. I'm glad he was the bad guy and not Tachibana as previously implied.
Both were awesome to me in their own ways. I'm a finance/business person in real life, so I loved them both.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
So Kuze and Shibusawa are
in prison for the rest of the series?
That means they can come back...!? As old men though, haha.
That means they can come back...!? As old men though, haha.
Holy Order Sol
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DC1
Member
Ha! Aged Yakuza has this think called 'old strength'..Or good use of a pistol/well made shank. So no worries from that perspective.
Most American country (southern) folk understand this better than others.
DC1
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New substories are added (or available) as you progress through the story. Somenare conditional and none of them are miss-able.
DC1
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That was hilarious.
chrominance
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They unlock at specific chapters, but as far as I am aware they don't disappear at any point.
Ok awesome. This is really how i thought the game worked. If it did my thought would be the game would have to let me know if i had unfinished business before moving on to the next chapter. Thanks for the replies tho
stargateheaven
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any advice for finding all the parts trophy? doing my head in..
TriggerRedd
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The super detailed analysis is pretty damn impressive! And it's more or less in line with my own views on the character. There's sort of two camps here on Sagawa -- Some /coughMr.Pointer/cough
see him as purely antagonist, a smarmy asshole who just wants to live large and use his power and authority over those he considers beneath himself. A spoiled child who kills cats and grows up to become a spoiled adult -- rich and flaunting it. They spent the entire game hating him, and when he gets the bullet at the end, they're happy to see him go.
As for ME,
I see him of course as a smarmy asshole, there's no getting around that part, but I think he's sort of a tragic figure too. I think he spends the entire game wishing Majima would be his buddy, like an older brother who can't seem to convince his younger brother's friend that he's cool. He desperately wants acceptance -- and when he doesn't get it, he lashes out. IE, the cat.
So here he is trying to be this cool guy to Majima, and Majima is having none of it. I don't think Sagawa particularly *enjoys* the idea of killing Majima at the end of chapter 8, nor do I think he particularly enjoys having to rope him in that alley and wring his neck -- But violent reaction to not getting his way is all he knows.
So you can almost literally see his face sink when Shimano outclasses him at every turn in that tense-ass sitdow they have. As some have said in this thread, yeah, there's no way Shimano could have predicted everything that happened, nor that Sagawa would be so fiercely loyal to him that he would actually attempt to end Majima. Regardless, Sagawa is made to look like a fool, and as he calls out to Majima "You've got the eye of a mad dog" at the end, he's well aware that Majima is already off the leash. He's basically lost. This is further evidenced with his sad-ass face at the end when he actually thinks Majima is going to take out Shimano.
So at the end of all things, I actually felt pity for Sagawa. And I think he knew what was coming to him. The game doesn't make it 100% clear why the Omi end him, but we can certainly assume there's some serious keijime that needs to happen (accountability) for the Chief of HQ taking a bullet and the Empty Lot going to the Tojo. Further - if anyone thinks Shimano isn't above throwing Sagawa under the bus for all that, I have a bridge in Sotenbori to sell you.
But Sagawa isn't stupid. I think at that point he was well-aware of what was coming to him, despite his generous offer to hit the town with Majima. Not to say that I let this color the text - except in one small way - When he says "Isn't it." Despite our QA team reporting it as a violation of grammar conventions, I left that as a period instead of a question mark, because not only did it match the inflection of his "na", but Ithere's a finality in it - an understanding that it's over, and that really made it, for me anyway, a moment to pity a man who was just trying to make a friend in all the wrong ways end up having to pay for all the ways the Omi (and Shimano) screwed up.
So here he is trying to be this cool guy to Majima, and Majima is having none of it. I don't think Sagawa particularly *enjoys* the idea of killing Majima at the end of chapter 8, nor do I think he particularly enjoys having to rope him in that alley and wring his neck -- But violent reaction to not getting his way is all he knows.
So you can almost literally see his face sink when Shimano outclasses him at every turn in that tense-ass sitdow they have. As some have said in this thread, yeah, there's no way Shimano could have predicted everything that happened, nor that Sagawa would be so fiercely loyal to him that he would actually attempt to end Majima. Regardless, Sagawa is made to look like a fool, and as he calls out to Majima "You've got the eye of a mad dog" at the end, he's well aware that Majima is already off the leash. He's basically lost. This is further evidenced with his sad-ass face at the end when he actually thinks Majima is going to take out Shimano.
So at the end of all things, I actually felt pity for Sagawa. And I think he knew what was coming to him. The game doesn't make it 100% clear why the Omi end him, but we can certainly assume there's some serious keijime that needs to happen (accountability) for the Chief of HQ taking a bullet and the Empty Lot going to the Tojo. Further - if anyone thinks Shimano isn't above throwing Sagawa under the bus for all that, I have a bridge in Sotenbori to sell you.
But Sagawa isn't stupid. I think at that point he was well-aware of what was coming to him, despite his generous offer to hit the town with Majima. Not to say that I let this color the text - except in one small way - When he says "Isn't it." Despite our QA team reporting it as a violation of grammar conventions, I left that as a period instead of a question mark, because not only did it match the inflection of his "na", but Ithere's a finality in it - an understanding that it's over, and that really made it, for me anyway, a moment to pity a man who was just trying to make a friend in all the wrong ways end up having to pay for all the ways the Omi (and Shimano) screwed up.
There you go!
Ultimadrago
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Ending Spoilers:
Wow, thanks for getting back to me with such an awesome response! I remember really enjoying the
I suppose the type of situation one finds commonly within your line of work!
Wow, thanks for getting back to me with such an awesome response!
I remember really enjoying the
brevity of that line, so I'm glad that your perspective on the character worked its way into the localization. That was a great call.
The Artisan
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it's friday night in ny, should be out socializing but here i am playing some more yakuza.
chapter 14. watching a prerendered cutscene and man
chapter 14. watching a prerendered cutscene and man
the guy who just shot kiryu is one ugly fuck.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I forget who this is. Is it Shimano? Because that guy is hideous.
The Artisan
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what the guy above said.
lao gui
i think i understood the earlier complaints in this thread about chinese dialogue. after seeing those comments and then watching these cutscenes i can't unhear that it's japanese actors reciting chinese, instead of actual chinese actors.
While agree with some notions of this, I have no sense of Sagawa havnig this like urge of friendship at all, I do sense sympathy however. I see Sagawa having that previously mentioned sense of disappointment around him simply due to the positioning of Shimano. Shimano commands one of the top families in the Tojo, and is one step away from having the entirety of the Tojo at his beck and call as well as having the Omi backing. On the other hand, Sagawa, Shimano's sworn brother, is just another Omi patriarch in the line of the "outclassed by Tojo Omi" and not only that, Sagawa knows he just another pawn in the chessboard for the other commanding pieces to move at will. He has to sit there in this shitty Sotenbori doing shitty jobs for Shimano and take care of his shitty dog, and in this Sagawa feels the same pains and expendability as Majima, but Majima is something different. Unlike Sagawa, Majima takes his position in stride, he hates making money and having this simple life of simply making cash money with the simpilist means in the Yakuza world, but he does everything to the very-T for his sworn brother and just to have even a tiny little space in the Tojo for Majima's goals. Sagawa can't understand this, it's an anomaly, why go this far, for money? obviously not. for pride and honor? Majima doesn't give a shit he sits in his cabaret club licking customers shoes for approval. Sagawa doesn't understand why a pawn like Majima would do all this self depricating shit just to continue to be a Tojo lapdog, this especially being prevelant because of the stark contast between the relations shit of sworn brothers, Sagawa's relationship, and Majima's.
The Artisan
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is staminan royale the item that heals you the most?
There's a dropable-only item that full fills health and heat, that said if you do a certain Majima substory
Sotenbori Mr. Libido
There's Stamina Spark (Kiryu can get that from the vending machine) that heals you to the most with full heat bar and there's Toughness Infinity too that gives you all your health back, again from the vending machine. Otherwise Toughness Empreor is the one that gives you the most health back (But has no effect on your heat bar) that you can get from stores.
I mean, Dunkey couldn't save Yakuza 3 but yes, we do it
great video by the way Y3 Spoilers tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__zGnZtL53Q
Define "well"
If sell well means 500,000 sales in the West... No way, if 400,000? Still way too much... If you mean 200,000 units, yeah that's what I'm expecting myself. Doubling over Yakuza 5 would be a great accomplishment.
Son Of Sparda
Member
Okay. I made peace with it. I won't be able to plat this game.
There's been way more buzz about this one than Y5 though. I could easily see it doing 400k, maybe even 600k
The Artisan
Member
another chapter 14 cutscene...
fuck you, game
goddammit, Tachibana.....NO!!!!!!!!
fuck you, game
righthandmouse
Banned
game more fun than nioh? I think I wanna get this before Zelda.
The Artisan
Member
you're saying if I do this substory then this item becomes available at the store?
so the item that gives you the most heat and health simultaneously is stamina spark, and can only be obtained from vending machines, thanks
The Artisan
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fucking ending to chapter 14. i'm so upset now.