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Yakuza 4 |OT| Welcome back, hostess bars & proper boxart!
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The Crimson Kid
what are you waiting for
Backflip said:
How long did the average boss in Y4 take on Hard or Extra Hard? That's my main concern before starting.
Thanks for the response though!
IrishNinja
Member
Totobeni said:
what the fuck is this
i mean, everyone's entitled to their opinion, ive just never seen this one ever. this is like taking the standard order and reversing it, than just tossing kenzan at the end for shits & giggles. first for everything, i guess.
ps props to you guys who got in on the amazon sale, hope you're enjoying it!
26thletter
Member
Is it ok to start with 4? I think I'm finally going to break down and play a Yakuza game, 1 and 2 are not possible, should I play 3 or 4 first?
IrishNinja said:
I am serious,and I did not do it for trolling or shit since I fucking love the series ( my favorite SEGA series after Shenmue)and imported Kenzan and RGG3, and in that post I said why Yakuza 4 is inferior, but will repeat again since I need to add few points anyway.
-Copy and paste everything from Yakuza 3.
-Aside from new lead characters,Nothing really new to the old Yakuza formula
-Real Shitty and boring Sidequest (for the first time in the series)
-Hilarious piece of shit story, the worst one in the series, full of repeated plots we saw from older Yakuza games.
-The ending is poor,and not epic and full of stupid.
-Shorter story mode ( if you don't play the side quests) than the Y1,2,3 story mode.
-Saejima is fucking boring, his fight style is boring and was a slow tank made of pure poop.
-Downgraded to one city instead of two like Yakuza 2 and 3 ( more detailed City than before but it's still one city).
-The Cast is boring Lily, the Chinese chef and his stupid adopted daughter,Kido..meh only phat Aya Hirano was cool and she no more after first chapter.
-No badass Yakuza Villains like all the other games ( and where Minami went?) and no cool boss fights.
New fighting styles for the 3 new characters don't make it for poor everything else and copy and paste job in this game,in my eyes Yakuza 4 turned into a quick Cash-in/sequel rehash and do not worth the RGG/Yakuza name, it's the worst of the RGG/Yakuza series, lazy sequel with short story mode and with stupid story and boring side quests.
Maybe the PSP spin off game is even worse than this one,I dunno, but for now( till I pay that)imho Yakuza 4 is the worst Yakuza game ever.
Just starting playing this game after getting it on sale last week. It's my first Yakuza game. If I think of this as a traditional jrpg in a modern setting,it rocks. But if i think of it as a GTA open sandbox type game then this is disappointing. So far I'm really liking it though.
I'm on the first character and I have some questions:
How do I make lots of money quickly and consistently?
Can you get any hostest girl to like you or will some never give you their card?
If you go through the game playing different characters, do you ever get a chance at the end to switch back to the one you liked?
I'm on the first character and I have some questions:
How do I make lots of money quickly and consistently?
Can you get any hostest girl to like you or will some never give you their card?
If you go through the game playing different characters, do you ever get a chance at the end to switch back to the one you liked?
Coverly said:
Casinos and abusing the items given you find in lockers, if you get enough cash to do max bets on roulette you can make millions, but you need the item that always gives you 0 or 00 for one turn that isnt until later in the game.
Girls are exclusive to a character, Rio will never go for anyone but Akiyama, etc. But the ones you do get to visit will give you their card.
Yes
I'm onto the 3rd character now, so more than half way through I guess, and all I want to do now is abuse how much money you can get. This is one of those things I loved doing in Shenmue and DQ8 and pretty much any other RPG with a casino. Probably gonna play through the whole game at least once more, mad fun.
They wear out over usage, not time. Once they break, if you bought them, you can take them to the weapons guy for repairs but I never bothered the game, isn't hard on normal to invest in weapons except for some special bosses.
You can sell gold bars and jewelry, probably woman's items as well unless you want your girl to wear a certain outfit. But bags and such can go. Getting girls to like you should not include gifts, it's waste of lots of money.
I think one of two sidequests might require a jewel but it should be easy enough to acquire again.
You can sell gold bars and jewelry, probably woman's items as well unless you want your girl to wear a certain outfit. But bags and such can go. Getting girls to like you should not include gifts, it's waste of lots of money.
I think one of two sidequests might require a jewel but it should be easy enough to acquire again.
Extra Sauce
Member
Picked up Yakuza 4 yesterday morning, been having a lot of fun with it. The level of freedom in this game is pretty much unparalleled. I love that.
My only gripe so far is that the combat offers no challenge whatsoever. I could literally win every fight with my eyes closed, just spamming kicks. This is a pretty big bummer, I wonder if I should start over but I don't know that I can stomach the first 3 chapters all over again.
Does it get significantly harder?
My only gripe so far is that the combat offers no challenge whatsoever. I could literally win every fight with my eyes closed, just spamming kicks. This is a pretty big bummer, I wonder if I should start over but I don't know that I can stomach the first 3 chapters all over again.
Does it get significantly harder?
archnemesis
Member
No, not really. I was having a bit of trouble playing Yakuza 3 on normal, but this game felt a lot easier. Make sure you always carry a few health items with you since some of the boss fights might bring minor difficulty spikes.xtrasauce said:
Extra Sauce
Member
I'm playing on Normal. I guess I'll continue on, I've clocked in too much time to feel like going back now.
Looking forward to challenging fights when I run into bosses. I did get my ass beaten by the training guy, so there's that.
Looking forward to challenging fights when I run into bosses. I did get my ass beaten by the training guy, so there's that.
If you actually want to get all the trophies, I'd stick with normal since you need to beat the game with every difficulty anyways. If not, I think going Hard is fine if you want more of a challenge. There's a few bosses that can be a bitch on hard but they always give you the option of lowering the difficulty after losing a certain amount of times. You can probably catch up to where you are now really fast by going into the options and making the cutscenes skippable.
Callibretto
Member
finally beat this game. good game, but I'm disappointed with the story, well maybe not the main theme and plot, the theme about blood brothers and the cops stuff is actually pretty cool. but the problem is with the storytelling and structure.
I think I would have like it if the different character is not separated into their own distinct chapter. at the end of Kazuma chapter and when I got to play all other character again, I've totally forgotten how Akiyama play, also having leveled up a character at the end of their chapter then switched to a level 1 new character is a bit annoying.
probably I'll like it better if the different character is spread through the whole game. play chapter 1 part 1 with Akiyama, then chapter 1 part 2 as someone else and so on.
the antagonist is weak, Arai is so underused or not shown too often, most of the game you got scheming type of antagonist, although it fits the theme about conspiracy story, it make for a pretty weak finale. seriously the final fight is very forced and lame. Arai should have take more spotlight due to his importance in plot,
after Y4, I think they really need to focus on just 1 new character and make a new personal and more intimate story with him. Yakuza 1 is great because the story is very personal, fight with your old friend and finding you lost love. Yakuza 2 is not too personal but the premise of 2 Dragons battling it out is classic, plus the yakuza x cop romance story. Yakuza 3 is just not memorable and Yakuza 4 lack focus. they should choose 1 main character and stick with him, (the whole game is really all about Saejima, his story is the most personal and emotional) we really should see a scene about
Sega is having fun with their character now with Yakuza End, if they want to make it more over the top crazy, have Yakuza 5 set years into the future and make Haruka into a female Yakuza, now that'd be a hilarious direction to go.
btw, did the ending implied that
I think I would have like it if the different character is not separated into their own distinct chapter. at the end of Kazuma chapter and when I got to play all other character again, I've totally forgotten how Akiyama play, also having leveled up a character at the end of their chapter then switched to a level 1 new character is a bit annoying.
probably I'll like it better if the different character is spread through the whole game. play chapter 1 part 1 with Akiyama, then chapter 1 part 2 as someone else and so on.
the antagonist is weak, Arai is so underused or not shown too often, most of the game you got scheming type of antagonist, although it fits the theme about conspiracy story, it make for a pretty weak finale. seriously the final fight is very forced and lame. Arai should have take more spotlight due to his importance in plot,
Kido suddenly is a strong fighter come out of nowhere, Daigo also come out of nowhere just to be opponent of Kiryu. Munakata is probably the only fight that kinda fit and belong in that final chapter.
after Y4, I think they really need to focus on just 1 new character and make a new personal and more intimate story with him. Yakuza 1 is great because the story is very personal, fight with your old friend and finding you lost love. Yakuza 2 is not too personal but the premise of 2 Dragons battling it out is classic, plus the yakuza x cop romance story. Yakuza 3 is just not memorable and Yakuza 4 lack focus. they should choose 1 main character and stick with him, (the whole game is really all about Saejima, his story is the most personal and emotional) we really should see a scene about
Saejima and Yasuko meeting, instead we got them offscreen. just so we can have Kazuya beat up like 100 men getting up kamurocho hill.
Sega is having fun with their character now with Yakuza End, if they want to make it more over the top crazy, have Yakuza 5 set years into the future and make Haruka into a female Yakuza, now that'd be a hilarious direction to go.
btw, did the ending implied that
Kazuma is back to Kamurocho for good or is he going back to Okinawa after Saejima inauguration, Haruka wear school uniform, kinda implied that she move to Tokyo and go to school there
Callibretto said:
yup as I said before in this same page the story in this game is complete shit, it completely destroy every good thing they have done with the game,Yakuza 4 is the FFXIII/Sonic 2K6 of the Yakuza series.
Yeah
he is back to the clan, It's stupid, because it's against everything he did since Yakuza 1, he is not stupid he made his decision and put a a successor to him in Yakuza 1 and Yakuza 2 (Daigo was pure good in Yakuza 2 and 3 now he is bad..yeah again stupid), and now Saejima is the clan boss,so why he Kazuma back again? and now he turn his back to the poor Haruka and the orphaned children this is just stupid,clearly SEGA just want to make more Yakuza games easier for them and not have to make lame story to bring him back to Kamurocho every time like in this game
Yakuza 5 need serious work from the team to make it a real sequel and not shitty rehash, a good writer (one with functional brain) and new everything or they risk the popularity of the series.
Callibretto
Member
Totobeni said:
I actually think Saejima story is great and have potential but he has to share spotlight with all other character, and honestly, Kazuma is not really needed in this story. he really felt like tacked on to the story.
edit: Saejima
is not the clan boss right? they just make a new Saejima family. like Majima have his own family but still under Tojo clan
Augemitbutter
Member
Callibretto said:
yea, saejima got his own branch in the tojo family now, he isn't the tojo leader. i don't share the hate for Y4, but i agree the series has to change. build a new engine, introduce new main characters and have the old cast appear in cameos.
Got this from Gamefly and have been playing for a couple of days now. Addictive as hell and feels like it could last forever just going to the arcade, Hostess clubs, bowling, batting practice, bars, etc. The city is still a little confusing, but overall the game is pretty addictive. Glad I finally checked the Yakuza series out. Very unique game.
CartridgeBlower
Member
ironcreed said:
Very nice! Yakuza is such a criminally underrated series. I'm just getting around to Y4 myself, but I have played Y2 and Y3. Awesome stuff so far.
I'm actually surprised how great it looks compared to Y3. The opening in the rain looks gorgeous, and it seems like there are less jaggies and the colors are sharper and pop more. Am I nuts?
Also, are the 4 stories told sequentially, or broken up and intertwined? I thought it was the latter, but I'm starting to think I'm mistaken. I've avoided most spoilers for this game, so even though I'm a series vet, I know very little going in, which I'm digging.
IrishNinja
Member
Totobeni said:
man, you are so trolling this thread.
Saejima is boss of his family, not overall boss. no idea how you even came to that.
Dojima's not evil, he had to make some harsh compromises to keep the family alive...he's standing there with Kaz at the end, they even had Kaz tell him it's his fault for putting so much on his shoulders. again, this stuff was kinda obvious. that, and the fact that most of the game was showing how bad things fell to pieces without Kaz there to step up...did you watch the ending at all?
theyve even got that sister family in Okinawa to look after the orphanage. thing is, nobody but you ranks 3 very highly, much less wants to play Yakuza 5 with kaz doing diaper-changing minigames, man.
Dojima's not evil, he had to make some harsh compromises to keep the family alive...he's standing there with Kaz at the end, they even had Kaz tell him it's his fault for putting so much on his shoulders. again, this stuff was kinda obvious. that, and the fact that most of the game was showing how bad things fell to pieces without Kaz there to step up...did you watch the ending at all?
theyve even got that sister family in Okinawa to look after the orphanage. thing is, nobody but you ranks 3 very highly, much less wants to play Yakuza 5 with kaz doing diaper-changing minigames, man.
i totally get knocking the story's flaws, but i'm not kidding when i say - based on reviews, and like everyone in this thread, you are literally the only person that's calling it the worst of the series.
2 > 4 > 3 > 1, again, with Kenzan! somewhere in the mix. they added 3 new characters with different fighting styles, of varying interest (Seajima grew on me, but if you dont love Akiyama, you played the wrong game), so knocking this one for not doing anything new is mind-blowing. i too liked it when 3 added a (small) other city, but if they're gonna keep resuing assets, id rather they focus on developing a larger cast like this one did, or the formula's gonna get old quick.
FairXchange
Member
Have had Yakuza 4 for a while now but only just recently got into it. I'm loving it so far. Only barely scratched the surface though.
The perfect Dark
Banned
It's my first Yakuza Game and I LOVE it.
But, one question: Is this game open ended? Do I have the possibility to finish all sidequests and play minigames after I finish the main story?
btw: How do I make money (besides selling items)?
I'm in part 1 chapter 4 now (10 hours now)
But, one question: Is this game open ended? Do I have the possibility to finish all sidequests and play minigames after I finish the main story?
btw: How do I make money (besides selling items)?
I'm in part 1 chapter 4 now (10 hours now)
slaughterking
Member
There's a separate game mode that let's you complete all sidequests after beating the game.
And money is best made while cheating in the casino with Tanimura later in the game.
And money is best made while cheating in the casino with Tanimura later in the game.
The perfect Dark
Banned
thx slaughty 
Is this seperate game mode open world? so, is it like the main game just with side quests?
Is this seperate game mode open world? so, is it like the main game just with side quests?
slaughterking
Member
Yes, that mode essentially resets the world to a state where you can do all unfinished sidequests, minigames and trophies.The perfect Dark said:thx slaughty
Is this seperate game mode open world? so, is it like the main game just with side quests?
michaelb3600
Neo Member
Beat Y4 last night. I had actually liked Y3 and the orphanage/political land grab story, but of course I enjoyed the first two games as well. I thought Y3's daycare-ish stuff was fun, and certainly something new to the gaming world. I've always enjoyed the fact that Yakuza wasn't afraid to mix emotions, whimsy, fun and cuteness into the mix. It amounts to more than "Kill aliens, retrieve treasure/XP".
Fantastic series, I think it's a mark of quality when playing through a familiar re-tread still encourages a joyous feeling (think Zelda). Loved Hana and am looking forward to playing some unlockables this week.
Am very much looking forward to info on Y5, and am in agreement with whoever said it's time for a full reboot.
Fantastic series, I think it's a mark of quality when playing through a familiar re-tread still encourages a joyous feeling (think Zelda). Loved Hana and am looking forward to playing some unlockables this week.
Am very much looking forward to info on Y5, and am in agreement with whoever said it's time for a full reboot.
About five hours in so far. What a complete and utter joy. I handed the controls to a friend on the weekend who had never heard of the series, and after finding a Revelation and having two street fights, he was laughing and proclaiming it to be one of the best games he's seen in a while.
I've been having a lot of trouble with pachinko, to the point where I wonder if there's a bug in the game. In the videos I've seen of the Japanese version, when you trigger a cutscene (to go into jackpot mode) on the Virtua Fighter machine, there are button prompts for when you're supposed to hit push. But there's only one scene where I get even one button prompt, and it's for the last button mash segment, so I've apparently already failed by that point.
Has anyone with both versions noticed a problem with pachinko, or is there something I'm missing?
Has anyone with both versions noticed a problem with pachinko, or is there something I'm missing?
Finally finished the story after doing so many hours of sidequests and minigames. AMAZING. Really loved the story and new characters. Can't believe they were able to write 3 really strong new characters who are just as badass as Kiryu. I also enjoyed all their different fighting styles. Really fun no matter who you play as especially after you unlock many of their later moves.
I admit there were some leaps of logic here and there with the story and some really lame setups but it's Yakuza and they've done far worse in previous games.
I'm really glad they tied up many loose ends from the past games and resolved some situations. I'm curious if people who ignored the past 3 games will understand the impact of some scenes and plot points. They bring back stuff all the way from the first game.
OVerall, super strong ending. It was deeply satisfying. I'm curious what they can do with Yakuza 5. So much potential. LOVE THIS SERIES.
I admit there were some leaps of logic here and there with the story and some really lame setups but it's Yakuza and they've done far worse in previous games.
I'm really glad they tied up many loose ends from the past games and resolved some situations. I'm curious if people who ignored the past 3 games will understand the impact of some scenes and plot points. They bring back stuff all the way from the first game.
OVerall, super strong ending. It was deeply satisfying. I'm curious what they can do with Yakuza 5. So much potential. LOVE THIS SERIES.
Great game, Akiyama is really the boss with his kicks. And the sheer number of ways you can bash someone's face in...dayum.
Be interesting if they'd bring in female yakuza and delinquents, maybe even a female playable character in Yakuza 5...though it's probably the ultraviolence factor that keeps the females out.
A school version would be awesome as well...a grittier Rival Schools kind of thing.
Be interesting if they'd bring in female yakuza and delinquents, maybe even a female playable character in Yakuza 5...though it's probably the ultraviolence factor that keeps the females out.
A school version would be awesome as well...a grittier Rival Schools kind of thing.
Square Triangle
Member
This will be $10 at Walmart on Black Friday, if Amazon matches this- ALL OF YOU FUCKERS HAD BETTER BUY THIS.
IrishNinja
Member
holy shit, that's a steal for all the content you get. take this man's advice!
boutrosinit
Street Fighter IV World Champion
Proof of value fo munees, here:
gamergirly
Member
Finally picked this up from Amazon
firehawk12
Subete no aware
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
Just started it and finished chapter one. I already know i'm really going to like this.
Think i'll do a chapter or 2 a day.
Think i'll do a chapter or 2 a day.
witchedwiz
Member
think i'll bite whenever i find this cheap :X
witchedwiz
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slaughterking
Member
Zavvi has it for £12.95. That's about as cheap as games get.
http://www.zavvi.com/games/platforms/ps3/yakuza-4/10206936.html
http://www.zavvi.com/games/platforms/ps3/yakuza-4/10206936.html