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You ok Florida?

Buggy Loop

Gold Member
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Water temp at 101.1°F, that's a fucking hot tub! It's supposedly 88F around this time of the year.

That's disgustingly hot. Not sure how marine life will survive that. If this is not the announcement that something is deeply wrong with the climate this year I don't know what will. Imagine a hurricane going over that hot water, it would reach record levels of forces.

I'm just an observer from way up north in Canada, but this is worrying.

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V1LÆM

Gold Member
for everyone else that's about 38C

we're fucked. just remember this is the coolest summer you'll have for the rest of your life! next year is most likely going to be even worse.

earth will sort itself out in time but i don't see how humans are going to survive this shit. imagine what it'll be like in 5-10 years from now nevermind 20, 30, 50, 100 years.
 

Madflavor

Member
But we can still turn on the TV, surf the internet, wash our dishes, flush our shit down the toilet, and hit the town.

What was once a future worry, is definitely here. It'll be a slow burn, but there's no denying it's Happening. However the general public will continue to not give a shit until their way of life really starts to get fucked over. We're already seeing inflation of the price of food. It's harder to grow crops now due to the heat, and if marine life starts dying off due to the rising temp in the ocean, seafood price will also go through the roof. To my knowledge the higher the ocean temp, the worse Hurricanes will be. We might actually see a monster of a Hurricane this year due to this.
 

V1LÆM

Gold Member
But we can still turn on the TV, surf the internet, wash our dishes, flush our shit down the toilet, and hit the town.

What was once a future worry, is definitely here. It'll be a slow burn, but there's no denying it's Happening. However the general public will continue to not give a shit until their way of life really starts to get fucked over. We're already seeing inflation of the price of food. It's harder to grow crops now due to the heat, and if marine life starts dying off due to the rising temp in the ocean, seafood price will also go through the roof. To my knowledge the higher the ocean temp, the worse Hurricanes will be. We might actually see a monster of a Hurricane this year due to this.
yup. until this affects peoples lifes on a daily basis then nothing is going to change. where i am we've had some intense heatwaves (by our standards) and this summer has been unusually wet but everyone is still going about their life as usual. one of my co-workers asked why it was so warm and i explained why we're getting more heatwaves and all i got was "isn't that good? what's wrong with more sun??" 💀

by the time people care it'll be too late. in fact it's already too late. even if we stopped all emissions today then it's too late as we'll be fucked for the next 50-100 years.

maybe humans deserve to go extinct. we're fucking lazy greedy selfish idiots.
 
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Buggy Loop

Gold Member
But we can still turn on the TV, surf the internet, wash our dishes, flush our shit down the toilet, and hit the town.

What was once a future worry, is definitely here. It'll be a slow burn, but there's no denying it's Happening. However the general public will continue to not give a shit until their way of life really starts to get fucked over. We're already seeing inflation of the price of food. It's harder to grow crops now due to the heat, and if marine life starts dying off due to the rising temp in the ocean, seafood price will also go through the roof. To my knowledge the higher the ocean temp, the worse Hurricanes will be. We might actually see a monster of a Hurricane this year due to this.

Insurances are leaving Florida, imagine that. Those that remain for now have raised the insurance premiums sky high. Some peoples won't even be able to afford insuring their homes.
 

Roxkis_ii

Banned
Man these heats waves are no joke. Its people in Arizona going to the hospital with severe burns from just falling on the ground.

I'm hoping that maybe AI can come up with a solution to save our planet if it doesn't destroy us first.

Crazy times ahead
 

Kilau

Member
It’s been disgustingly hot so far this summer, plus we had that Saharan sand blow in that stopped our afternoon rain for days. This thankfully isn’t ocean temp. It’s very shallow dirty water that absorbs more heat but still hot af and alarming.
 

Madflavor

Member
yup. until this affects peoples lifes on a daily basis then nothing is going to change. where i am we've had some intense heatwaves (by our standards) and this summer has been unusually wet but everyone is still going about their life as usual. one of my co-workers asked why it was so warm and i explained why we're getting more heatwaves and all i got was "isn't that good? what's wrong with more sun??" 💀

by the time people care it'll be too late. in fact it's already too late. even if we stopped all emissions today then it's too late as we'll be fucked for the next 50-100 years.

maybe humans deserve to go extinct. we're fucking lazy greedy selfish idiots.

I don't think humans will go extinct within 50-100 years, that's probably an exaggeration. Our species has always been highly adaptable and have survived terrible conditions throughout history, and that was without modern day conveniences. But our way of life will certainly get significantly worse, and some people will die as a result of it. Unless you ignore the signs of what's to come, and what is happening right now, it's hard to argue against the idea that we are in for some bad times ahead. I worry a lot about what kind of world my son will live in, he's only 2 right now. Hopefully we can adapt and learn to live in the new conditions we've created for ourselves.
 
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Puscifer

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Water temp at 101.1°F, that's a fucking hot tub! It's supposedly 88F around this time of the year.

That's disgustingly hot. Not sure how marine life will survive that. If this is not the announcement that something is deeply wrong with the climate this year I don't know what will. Imagine a hurricane going over that hot water, it would reach record levels of forces.

I'm just an observer from way up north in Canada, but this is worrying.

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Holy shit yes! I was in Florida recently and when I went swimming the cool waters I was expecting since I was last there about 5-6 years ago was luke warm, figured it was a bad day but NOPE. Just seems like this the norm now
 

RiccochetJ

Gold Member
I was wondering what the effect will be for marine life and found this from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration:

The ongoing marine heat waves in U.S. waters, explained

Extreme heat can be destructive and deadly for marine systems. An unprecedented marine heat wave known as “the Blob” dominated the northeastern Pacific from 2013 to 2016, and upended ecosystems across a huge swath of the Pacific Ocean. This led to an ecological cascade, causing fishery collapses and fishery disaster determinations.


“The Blob” caused whales’ prey to be concentrated unusually close to shore, and a severe bloom of toxic algae along the coast delayed opening of the valuable Dungeness crab fishery. Humpback whales moved closer to shore to feed in some of the same waters targeted by the crab fishery, resulting in a then-record 53 whale entanglements in 2015 and 55 in 2016.
 
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Kenneth Haight

Gold Member
Watched an inconvenient truth way back when and it scared me a bit. We are seeing the real time affects now and it’s probably too late to turn back the clock now unfortunately. Makes me scared for my kids growing up in all honesty, what the world will look like when I’m gone in 50 years.
 

0neAnd0nly

Member
FWIW, being I follow weather patterns and tornados a lot (some of you will notice me int he tornado threads)...

This year is, actually by most meteorologist NOT in the media eye, an anomalous year.

I want to tread lightly here because:

1) This can easily get political

2) I am not making any statement on "climate change" or anything to that affect, just wanting to discuss facts.

This year is setting the stage similar to 1998. People have short memory banks and only remember what is happening now, especially with the way news is presented today, with words like "emergency" or "record breaking" driving clicks.

In 1998 there was massive droughts, records broken in certain parts of the world / USA. California was particularly hit hard, multiple deaths due to the droughts and temps, etc. This was caused by what most meteorologist consider to be a "Super El Nino". The Super El Nino Trend is rare, doesn't occur and needs certain variables to do so. This year, that has been showing it's teeth as a distinct possibility as this El Nino has looked very strong (hence some of the wild and tornadic weather). This is why you haven't heard an insane amount of hype about Hurricane season, because most hurricane researchers tend to agree this year will be average at best, due to the building "Super El Nino".

On top of that, the Saharan Dust blowing over the Atlantic was very late /stunted this year. This is actually what caused the heating of the Atlantic ocean. The trade winds we depend on didn't deliver as per the norm. This has potentially happened before as well, it just usually isn't ALSO timed with a Super El NIno event, and the 2 combined has created some havoc on ocean temperatures.

Now, not all of that is concrete. Some of the researchers have bumped up hurricane calculations slightly, due to the fact that the Super El Nino seems to be breaking apart a bit and losing strength. It may not end up being so "super" and just a tad bit stronger than usual in it's stretch. This is good and bad.

Bad because it will allow hurricane activity to potentially ramp back up as it's wind shear lifts from the Atlantic.

Good because if it stays strong, like 1998, you can expect very warm winters and EXTREMELY violent weather potential in the Southeastern USA. I touched on the 1998 droughts at the start of the last Super El Nino, but I didn't touch on the 1998 winter season for the Southeast and especially Florida. In 1998, February dawned the worst Tornado outbreak in Florida history, notably during the "Night of the Tornados" which saw a long track F4 (later downgraded to F3) track long from the Central to North East region of the state, causing multiple fatalities. It was only one of DOZENS of Tornados. The rest of the southeast saw similar, Birmingham F5 was one of the most notable during that stretch.


In short, wall of text over and great and all - this should be an anomalous year in a few ways. While the El Nino comes in, you can and will expect a few things moving forward for potentially a couple of years since we are exiting a La Nina. The Winter season is typically warmer in the USA during El Nino. The Hurricane season is typically lower, though the ocean temps this year may elevate that number this year. Chaotic winter weather is more likely, don't at all be surprised to see Tornado activity in the winter (frankly, this isn't rare anyway contrary to popular belief).

Source: Friend is a meteorologist and I spend way too much time studying tornados... for some reason.

Edit: here is some info on the 1998 Florida Tornado Outbreak:


Here is some info on the 1998 Super El Niño:

Super El Niño 1997-1998
 
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Deleted member 1159

Unconfirmed Member
FWIW, being I follow weather patterns and tornados a lot (some of you will notice me int he tornado threads)...

This year is, actually by most meteorologist NOT in the media eye, an anomalous year.

I want to tread lightly here because:

1) This can easily get political

2) I am not making any statement on "climate change" or anything to that affect, just wanting to discuss facts.

This year is setting the stage similar to 1998. People have short memory banks and only remember what is happening now, especially with the way news is presented today, with words like "emergency" or "record breaking" driving clicks.

In 1998 there was massive droughts, records broken in certain parts of the world / USA. California was particularly hit hard, multiple deaths due to the droughts and temps, etc. This was caused by what most meteorologist consider to be a "Super El Nino". The Super El Nino Trend is rare, doesn't occur and needs certain variables to do so. This year, that has been showing it's teeth as a distinct possibility as this El Nino has looked very strong (hence some of the wild and tornadic weather). This is why you haven't heard an insane amount of hype about Hurricane season, because most hurricane researchers tend to agree this year will be average at best, due to the building "Super El Nino".

On top of that, the Saharan Dust blowing over the Atlantic was very late /stunted this year. This is actually what caused the heating of the Atlantic ocean. The trade winds we depend on didn't deliver as per the norm. This has potentially happened before as well, it just usually isn't ALSO timed with a Super El NIno event, and the 2 combined has created some havoc on ocean temperatures.

Now, not all of that is concrete. Some of the researchers have bumped up hurricane calculations slightly, due to the fact that the Super El Nino seems to be breaking apart a bit and losing strength. It may not end up being so "super" and just a tad bit stronger than usual in it's stretch. This is good and bad.

Bad because it will allow hurricane activity to potentially ramp back up as it's wind shear lifts from the Atlantic.

Good because if it stays strong, like 1998, you can expect very warm winters and EXTREMELY violent weather potential in the Southeastern USA. I touched on the 1998 droughts at the start of the last Super El Nino, but I didn't touch on the 1998 winter season for the Southeast and especially Florida. In 1998, February dawned the worst Tornado outbreak in Florida history, notably during the "Night of the Tornados" which saw a long track F4 (later downgraded to F3) track long from the Central to North East region of the state, causing multiple fatalities. It was only one of DOZENS of Tornados. The rest of the southeast saw similar, Birmingham F5 was one of the most notable during that stretch.


In short, wall of text over and great and all - this should be an anomalous year in a few ways. While the El Nino comes in, you can and will expect a few things moving forward for potentially a couple of years since we are exiting a La Nina. The Winter season is typically warmer in the USA during El Nino. The Hurricane season is typically lower, though the ocean temps this year may elevate that number this year. Chaotic winter weather is more likely, don't at all be surprised to see Tornado activity in the winter (frankly, this isn't rare anyway contrary to popular belief).

Source: Friend is a meteorologist and I spend way too much time studying tornados... for some reason.
Your friend?

 

0neAnd0nly

Member
Your friend?



Haha, classic! When TV was actually funny.

But in reality, he is a meteorologist who got his degree from University of Miami (FL). Eww.


HE is the one I have referenced before that tried to poach me to be his photographer for storm chasing. I was a 4 year photography student, so for years he tried to get me to go. He went chasing this summer, back home now, will have to see what he got and saw.
 
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Punished Miku

Human Rights Subscription Service
If only there had been thousands of scientists repeatedly warning governments and society as a whole over many decades.
Yeah, all I can really say in a non-political sense is my joke above. But my true feelings on it is that anyone that ever claimed differently should be permanently ignored for eternity and held to account, but of course that will never happen. And then we move on to whatever the next catastrophic denial is. Fun times.
 
Everyone should be doing their part to reduce waste and conserve energy and water as best as they can to give us all the best future possible.

Being a doomer and proselytizing about the end days and how no one should have kids makes you a nut job though.
 
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