CPS investigations are often confidential so we may not know unless the family says something.
The way they screamed at their kid was already abusive enough, no matter if it was a prank or not. I think the parents unintentionally unmasked themselves there. If they scream at their kids like that as part of a prank, they likely would do the same thing, when one of the kids actually does something wrong. Some of the kids seemed very distressed because of the screaming, some not at all, but none of the kids seemed surprised by their parents behavior.
The saddest thing about all this is the kids are probably already fucked in the head now, and that shit is incredibly hard to fix/heal. I'm honestly on the verge of tears.
All the kids seemed distressed during the ink prank. Like they feel bad for Cody. You can see it in their faces that they think Cody is about to get abused badly. I think the eldest just walks away so it's hard to gauge his reaction but the other children are definitely not liking what they see. They definitely think this is something real happening and that Cody is fucked. They've seen it before.
I also dont know why people think the biological mother would be a better place. She doesnt have custody for a reason.
This has been on my mind, but I didn't see anyone mention it yet.
So.. What's the reason?
I've watched some more vids last night from a Youtuber called Joy Sparkle BS.
She has gone through a similar situation as a kid and is able to nail the feelings and behaviour of Cody as a reaction to his parents.
She analyzes some footage the Nerd City video doesn't cover.
There's a hierarchy of priorities with legal action in order of importance with corporations being at the top and minorities and children being at the lowest rung. Look at the Penn State fiasco.
Are the authorities genuinely not going to look into this?
It's such a gray area, I mean clearly this is abuse but then you could apply prosecution to all those sort of 'Funniest Home Video' moments you see of kids getting 'pranked' or whatever.
Basically, the only way to nail this down would be to go full nanny state. This is already an issue with people smacking their children in public, let alone with youtube videos from inside homes.
I'd rather see his channel completely demonetized and get a bit of name'n'shame. This is just an example of babies having babies; a manchild with children.
Wait what?It's such a gray area, I mean clearly this is abuse but then you could apply prosecution to all those sort of 'Funniest Home Video' moments you see of kids getting 'pranked' or whatever.
It's such a gray area, I mean clearly this is abuse but then you could apply prosecution to all those sort of 'Funniest Home Video' moments you see of kids getting 'pranked' or whatever.
Saying we need to "go full nanny state" in order to curtail child abuse at this level of severity is....insane to me.
This isn't a grey area, I'm assuming you didn't catch any of the videos when they were up. I've watched Funniest Home Videos since the early 90s and I've never seen anything close to that extreme or intentionally harmful.
The Funniest Home Videos is an example of the attitude people have to these youtube videos
Okay think this through, people post videos like this of their children so immediately the police and child services should be knocking at their door, right? Does that not sound like what I describe when I say 'nanny state'? Do you think this youtube channel is a special super niche case that will not rear it's ugly head again as we move into the information age of non-stop video feed and a lack of personal privacy? Do you think that systematically Youtube monetization and family vblogging culture rewards this type of behaviour? What exactly do you think should be enacted with this particular case?
No, I've only caught the videos at the tail end of this debacle but I've seen enough to know that what he's doing to his children is wrong. The Funniest Home Videos is an example of the attitude people have to these youtube videos, it was there in the 90s, it stuck around and now it has become a normal youtube genre with thousands of videos going up of kids involved in domestic spats.
They made (multiple) TV series about this, you've probably heard of Super Nanny or Brat Camp. Why are we treating this person's bad parenting like it's something that can be cured so easily?
Wow, that dude breaking out the spectral display:
Plus that clip of the daughter having her statements cut out as she sits in the all to familiar fetal position that we often see Cody in.
Based on what we've heard Cody say in similar situations, it's pretty obvious she's saying she wants to go back to her biological mom.
There is a difference between a cake to the face, someone accidentally falling into a pool, some slipping at a wedding and telling children to hit each other, tell your child he is adopted, slamming the kids face into the bed and laughing about...
Man, you really need to watch this video. Comparing DaddyOFive to home video / reality TV shows is absolutely ridiculous. People aren't asking for a "nanny state"....people are hoping an investigation by Maryland authorities / CPS is taking place. If you watch the video I linked above, you should understand why.
The video is just like all the others, another youtuber picking apart the videos with their arms crossed.
So what do these kids have in their future now? Orphanages? Foster homes? Unless the parents actually straighten up and fly right this won't go away.
So what do these kids have in their future now? Orphanages? Foster homes? Unless the parents actually straighten up and fly right this won't go away.
How the fuck is it a gray area? How the fuck are "Funniest Home VIdeo" any similar? Any people capable of rational thought can tell you those are worlds apart.It's such a gray area, I mean clearly this is abuse but then you could apply prosecution to all those sort of 'Funniest Home Video' moments you see of kids getting 'pranked' or whatever.
It's such a gray area, I mean clearly this is abuse but then you could apply prosecution to all those sort of 'Funniest Home Video' moments you see of kids getting 'pranked' or whatever.
It's such a gray area, I mean clearly this is abuse but then you could apply prosecution to all those sort of 'Funniest Home Video' moments you see of kids getting 'pranked' or whatever.
It's such a gray area, I mean clearly this is abuse but then you could apply prosecution to all those sort of 'Funniest Home Video' moments you see of kids getting 'pranked' or whatever.
Are the authorities genuinely not going to look into this?
There's a hierarchy of priorities with legal action in order of importance with corporations being at the top and minorities and children being at the lowest rung. Look at the Penn State fiasco.
I, too, am shocked that the Child Protective Service does not post daily updates of ongoing investigations onto Facebook, and presume that it is because they (the Child Protective Service) are prosecuting copyright infringement or something.
Shocked.
I'd say the kids are in imminent danger, wouldn't you?
I'd say the kids are in imminent danger, wouldn't you?
Okay think this through, people post videos like this of their children so immediately the police and child services should be knocking at their door, right? Does that not sound like what I describe when I say 'nanny state'?
I, too, am shocked that the Child Protective Service does not post daily updates of ongoing investigations onto Facebook, and presume that it is because they (the Child Protective Service) are prosecuting copyright infringement or something.
Shocked.
Call their local CPS to complain instead of staying on gaf.
The fact that this channel had more than 500k subscribers shows up the power of the bystander effect.
Anything new happen? I'm starting to think nothing will ever happen. Their YouTube channel will go down and everyone will forget about it as soon as another terrible thing happens on the internet.
It's such a gray area, I mean clearly this is abuse but then you could apply prosecution to all those sort of 'Funniest Home Video' moments you see of kids getting 'pranked' or whatever.
For real. CPS is not going to fax blast the results of their investigation. Not only would that be exploitative it would sensationalize the situation even further.
People care more about being the ambiance of the drama like it's a TMZ story. Please go volunteer with your local CPS/DES. Chances are you may meet a Cody.
Otherwise all this post concern without action is basically Monday morning quarterbacking. It's all just should've could've would've gossip. This situation got me would up between the actual
terrible parents , opportunistic you tubers, and media sensationalism.
'DaddyOFive' wife 'MommyOFive' speaks to reporter; couple issues public apology
As law-enforcement agencies review the many videos made by the Maryland couple behind the now-infamous YouTube channel "DaddyOFive," the wife and mother Heather Martin, also known as "MommyOFive," spoke to The Baltimore Sun about the public backlash and the couple's latest apologies for what they call pranks on their children.
Its been very emotional in every aspect of the word. Weve been scared. Weve been upset. Weve been ashamed, Heather Martin said in an interview Monday night.
Heather and her husband, Michael Martin, who live in Ijamsville, Frederick County, retained a crisis management and communications firm late last week, released a video apology Saturday and issued a statement of apology via news release Monday.
Saturday's upload was a different video than we usually do, Heather said. With her clad in a pink shirt, cardigan and curls and Michael in a sweater vest his gaze mostly averted from the camera the couple apologized for their online behavior and their treatment of their five children.
The developments come as representatives of the Frederick County Sheriffs Office and Baltimore County Police Department said investigators were reviewing the videos but struggling to view deleted videos and to establish which jurisdictions they took place in.
Were looking into every aspect of the videos to see if there are any crimes, but the investigation depends on where the videos are shot, said Major Tim Clark of Frederick County.
Both in their mid-30s, the Martins said they were undergoing counseling to cope with the backlash and to help themselves and their five children, all under the age of 15, understand their bad decisions as parents.
Michael, the on-camera provocateur for many of the pranks, including one in which he appears to push his son into a bookcase leaving him with a bloody nose, said, I acknowledge and I respect how everyone feels about this, and I do agree that we put things on the internet that shouldnt be there. We did things that we should not do.
Michael did not respond to requests for comment from The Sun.
What started out as family fun crossed the line, and that was the change," she told The Sun. "When I stepped back and reflected and looked at how this would appear to other people, I was able to take myself out of character and -- me just being Mom -- I put myself in other peoples shoes to see how bad that some of this looked."
The couple uploaded nearly 300 videos to the DaddyOFive YouTube channel. In them, the parents screamed profanities at their children, broke their toys and games and filmed as their children fought each other, often as Michael laughed. Many of the videos received more than 100,000 views. Viewers were especially outraged at the treatment of one of the youngest sons, Cody, who appeared to be the brunt of many of the pranks.
DaddyOFive has amassed more than 765,000 subscribers as of Monday afternoon. Many of the videos had been deleted Wednesday. Michael said he removed most of them, but YouTube told The Sun via email that it removed ads from the DaddyOFive channel and any of the videos that violated its community guidelines.
Other "DaddyOFive" videos live on, on other users' accounts. "MommyOFive" still retained several of its videos as of Monday night.
We went from something that wasnt so bad, and then we just kept going more and more for the shock factor, Heather said in the video released Saturday, which has garnered more than 870,000 views and more than 104,000 comments as of Monday night. She said that the kids were excited by the views and wanted to see how many they could get, but added that it wasnt their fault. She and Michael should have made better decisions, she said.
Michael said, I just wanted to take care of everybody.
The couples released statement was similar, though it states that they used character acting and scripted pranks as they gained popularity. They emphasized that the children are now safe, off camera and out of character.
They are normal, happy kids who play sports and love being with their family and friends. Thank you for your understanding as we work through this difficult time, they stated.
Heather told The Sun on Monday that the children have not experienced any blowback. In fact, they have become more popular because of the videos, she said.
Weve done everything in our power to protect them from [the backlash], she said.
Heather also said she and her husband have not been contacted by the police, but declined to say whether the family had been contacted by Child Protective Services.
Katherine A. Morris, a spokeswoman for the Maryland Department of Human Resources, reiterated in an email to The Baltimore Sun Monday that Maryland confidentiality laws meant the department could not confirm or deny whether Child Protective Services has met or is involved with the family.
Law enforcement in Montgomery, Baltimore and Frederick counties said they have been alerted about the videos.
The Frederick Countys Sheriffs Office said that its criminal investigation section was reviewing the videos.
Clark, who noted that the couple recently moved to Ijamsville in Frederick County, said the sheriffs office must determine whether the videos were shot within the jurisdiction before law-enforcement agents can take action for any alleged criminal activity.
If we determine that there was some type of criminal [activity], we will notify Child Protective Services as a part of the investigation, he said. If the sheriff's department finds the alleged activity was in another jurisdiction, Clark said agents would notify the appropriate law enforcement division.
Baltimore County Police Officer Jennifer Peach said Baltimore County police are also reviewing the many videos that the couple uploaded to YouTube, but were having a hard time because many were removed or blocked and were filmed indoors, making it difficult to determine the location in Maryland.
Moving forward, Heather says the focus is fully on the family.
"We've already begun family counseling immediately," she said. In addition, We did get a life coach thats going to be able to help us, and just get an outside perspective, making sure [the children are] OK and that everything is good from here on out."
As for the DaddyOFive and MommyOFive YouTube channels, Heather said they havent decided what will become of them.
Right now, were focused on our family, she repeated.
We just really hope that we can help other people not make the same mistakes that we have, and we hope that we can show that weve learned from the things that weve done or said.
Baltimore Sun has interviewed Heather Martin and reports that the Martin family has hired a "crisis management and communications firm": http://www.baltimoresun.com/feature...tin-issue-apology-youtube-20170424-story.html
No, I've only caught the videos at the tail end of this debacle but I've seen enough to know that what he's doing to his children is wrong. The Funniest Home Videos is an example of the attitude people have to these youtube videos, it was there in the 90s, it stuck around and now it has become a normal youtube genre with thousands of videos going up of kids involved in domestic spats.
They made (multiple) TV series about this, you've probably heard of Super Nanny or Brat Camp. Why are we treating this person's bad parenting like it's something that can be cured so easily?
For real tho please volunteer at local children's advocacy groups. Most of these kids need as much help as they can get and these departments and organizations are spread thin as is.
I would think the fact that it's being done on a consistent basis for monetary gain would factor in, but I guess not. Surely constantly living in fear of being "pranked" when you're not actively being pranked by your own parents and siblings isn't a healthy environment for children. It's like they're all in a frat house against their will.It's such a gray area, I mean clearly this is abuse but then you could apply prosecution to all those sort of 'Funniest Home Video' moments you see of kids getting 'pranked' or whatever.
Basically, the only way to nail this down would be to go full nanny state. This is already an issue with people smacking their children in public, let alone with youtube videos from inside homes.
I'd rather see his channel completely demonetized and get a bit of name'n'shame. This is just an example of babies having babies; a manchild with children.
Maybe if they didn't have to be forced kicking and screaming into this I'd feel a little better. This seems like a PR move that hopes the heat dies down so they can go back to being shitty parents. I'm willing that life coach is around as long as the media is paying attention then him and any other changes are out the door and its business as usual for those poor kids.