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Ys: The Oath in Felghana (PC/Steam) |OT|

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
I would start out on just easy, very easy is such a push over of a mode. For example, the third Statue Boss, I killed its second form in 1 attack, where in easy it took a good 3 or 4 minutes.

There is Achievements for beating the game on each difficulty, and one for finishing in under 5 hours. There is actually an achievement for just starting a very easy game.
 

Koroviev

Member
I would start out on just easy, very easy is such a push over of a mode. For example, the third Statue Boss, I killed its second form in 1 attack, where in easy it took a good 3 or 4 minutes.

There is Achievements for beating the game on each difficulty, and one for finishing in under 5 hours. There is actually an achievement for just starting a very easy game.

I see, thanks :)
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
At least there are three achievements that actually give Very Easy mode a purpose. Without those it's pretty much pointless.
 
I'm at the end of the game. The fight with
Garland
was a lot of fun. I think it was my favorite one, along with the
fire bird/bridge one
. I attempted the finale battle but kept losing. I think I will take a break for now.
 

iavi

Member
At least there are three achievements that actually give Very Easy mode a purpose. Without those it's pretty much pointless.

Do you not get the very easy achievement if you beat the game on normal? I was hoping it would award everything below.
 
Hoping to finally give this a whirl after I finish Graces f tonight. Love the graphic style. Steam needs more games like this. (TitS, XSeed! TitS!)
 
Well, that's what makes the game an easy game. You'll have to force the game to be hard by putting restrictions on yourself when playing on normal.

You can pretty much grind in any RPG ever...

The game is hard if you don't specifically go out of your way to grind. And you pretty much do have to go out of your way.
 

Koroviev

Member
You can pretty much grind in any RPG ever...

The game is hard if you don't specifically go out of your way to grind. And you pretty much do have to go out of your way.

That's one of my favorite aspects of RPGs. You don't necessarily have to choose an arbitrary difficulty level, you can *make* one ;)
 
I <3 grinding so much.

I have grinded so much in this game. To the point where I have never ever NOT had enough money/raval ore to upgrade/buy stuff. I'm almost level 50 right now and I just got to Genos Island. So nice. <3
 

iavi

Member
They do not stack.

Which is another thing I love. I generally hate difficulty achievements not stacking, but I cannot wait to run through this game in a couple of hours in the lower difficulties.

I'm actually kind of disappointed, tbh. I was going to go through it on the harder difficulties, but I didn't want to have to do each and EVERY one. Oh well, that just means that I'll get them all over the span of a few years, rather than weeks, lol.
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
I <3 grinding so much.

I have grinded so much in this game. To the point where I have never ever NOT had enough money/raval ore to upgrade/buy stuff. I'm almost level 50 right now and I just got to Genos Island. So nice. <3

You must love it. I think I was level 50 when I got to the end of that area.
 

Kibokun

Member
I'm actually kind of disappointed, tbh. I was going to go through it on the harder difficulties, but I didn't want to have to do each and EVERY one. Oh well, that just means that I'll get them all over the span of a few years, rather than weeks, lol.

Yeah, I'm glad I learned that before I really got very far. I'm going to start again on Easy and work my way up. I got my face handed to me 20~ times by the first boss before I beat him, at level 7, so I'm probably not quite prepared :)
 

Pyrokai

Member
This game is really intriguing me. Never played an Ys game before. Is this a good one to start with?

Now my next question: Is this version supposed to be dramatically better than the PSP version? I'd much rather have a physical copy when possible, and I love portables, so I'm just wondering. Price doesn't matter to me (I can get the PSP version for $25 which I'm fine with).
 

Eusis

Member
Yeah, I'm glad I learned that before I really got very far. I'm going to start again on Easy and work my way up. I got my face handed to me 20~ times by the first boss before I beat him, at level 7, so I'm probably not quite prepared :)
Yeah, I can see using Easy as warm up. Very Easy however sounds more like it exists to SPEEDRUN a game instead, if bosses can be downed in a single hit.
 
This game is really intriguing me. Never played an Ys game before. Is this a good one to start with?

Now my next question: Is this version supposed to be dramatically better than the PSP version? I'd much rather have a physical copy when possible, and I love portables, so I'm just wondering. Price doesn't matter to me (I can get the PSP version for $25 which I'm fine with).

Better visuals, bigger screen vs. the new voice work in PSP version.

For me no question that $15 for this version is the way to go.
 

Eusis

Member
Well, the PSP version also has extras like restarting from the last area transition rather than the last save point if you die in addition to the already explained second boost. But then that's probably more a portable concession than anything else, though it'd sure be nice to have at times. It's also widescreen properly, but if you want that I imagine higher quality visuals are your priority, and the PC version has that trumped with or without official widescreen support.

... Playing this makes me want to replay Trails in the Sky. REALLY hope that can come sooner that later, I'd kinda prefer to play it with spring weather or some reason anyway.
 

Orin GA

I wish I could hat you to death
Galbalan is cake now. No need for a spirit necklace. Death Faleon and Zirduros still kick my ass tho. Think I'll start on Hard Mode next week.

D402DA46B36F1F9CE36C00948EDB0BCE657B8F48
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
This game is really intriguing me. Never played an Ys game before. Is this a good one to start with?

Now my next question: Is this version supposed to be dramatically better than the PSP version? I'd much rather have a physical copy when possible, and I love portables, so I'm just wondering. Price doesn't matter to me (I can get the PSP version for $25 which I'm fine with).

$25? Looks like the price is going up, it's been $15 for a while (and it's $15 on PSN).

PSP version is probably fine if you prefer portables. It's a good port and has a lot of extras. It's not really missing anything except higher graphic fidelity, and it's a little easier due to the aforementioned double boost and restarting the same room instead of at the last save point.

... Playing this makes me want to replay Trails in the Sky. REALLY hope that can come sooner that later, I'd kinda prefer to play it with spring weather or some reason anyway.

I'm thinking later. Probably 5-6 months before SC is planned to be released, that way plenty of people can pick up the game on PC, maybe even see a sale in that period, but those that do play the PC version won't be stuck waiting until who-knows-when for SC. I'm sure the XSEED guys get annoyed answering the same questions about "When is SC coming?!?!" over and over again.
 

Myke Greywolf

Ambassador of Goodwill
Just finished the game, took me about 15 hours in Easy mode. All in all, an awesome, if simple, game. Very enjoyable and with awesome (and demanding) boss fights.
 

Eusis

Member
I'm thinking later. Probably 5-6 months before SC is planned to be released, that way plenty of people can pick up the game on PC, maybe even see a sale in that period, but those that do play the PC version won't be stuck waiting until who-knows-when for SC. I'm sure the XSEED guys get annoyed answering the same questions about "When is SC coming?!?!" over and over again.
The fact they announced Origin for an indeterminate point doesn't help either. The likelihood of getting that readied, WITH a Steam registry listing, implies we're not seeing anything else come out beforehand on Steam, and it does seem likely it'll come in a month or two AT BEST anyway.
 

Lafiel

と呼ぶがよい
About to start playing this - what's the best resolution and graphical settings to play this on? I remember reading this doesn't support wide-screen natively, yet the graphical settings offer a option to play in 1920x1080!!
 

iavi

Member
About to start playing this - what's the best resolution and graphical settings to play this on? I remember reading this doesn't support wide-screen natively, yet the graphical settings offer a option to play in 1920x1080!!

Honestly, the stretching doesn't look bad at all. I'm playing at 1680x1050, myself, with everything else maxed out. These games clean up so well, it's nuts.
 

Eusis

Member
Honestly, the stretching doesn't look bad at all.
It's definitely YMMV, but that's the case with all stretching. Someone like me can barely stand it even on text, others will stretch every god damn thing and not notice it.
 
Yup. Add me to the list of people who didn't mind this game stretched at 1920x1080. It probably helped that I have never seen the Ys series any other way. Looked good to me.

After beating it, I really can't wait for Origin now.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
So... I played through the game on normal first, then blew through it on very easy. Thought I was done. Apparently not - I just randomly started up the game on hard and I'm playing through it again. Which brings me to a few things:

1) This game is really damn good. I'm on my 3rd playthrough this week, and this is on top of already playing through the PSP version last November.

2) I've come to the realization that when it comes to RPGs, Falcom just... gets it. These games have all the charm and addictiveness of hardcore, old-school games; but with a modern coat of paint. Yeah, there's Dark Souls and all that, but I feel like moreso than basically any other JRPG developer, Falcom is making games I actually want to play.

3) XSEED really needs to get some more Falcom games on Steam to satisfy my addiction, and quick. For whatever reason, I'd really like to see Xanadu Next... or some of Falcom's stuff that hasn't seen a PSP release in the States. But uh... I'll take pretty much whatever I can get.
 

Koroviev

Member
So... I played through the game on normal first, then blew through it on very easy. Thought I was done. Apparently not - I just randomly started up the game on hard and I'm playing through it again. Which brings me to a few things:

1) This game is really damn good. I'm on my 3rd playthrough this week, and this is on top of already playing through the PSP version last November.

2) I've come to the realization that when it comes to RPGs, Falcom just... gets it. These games have all the charm and addictiveness of hardcore, old-school games; but with a modern coat of paint. Yeah, there's Dark Souls and all that, but I feel like moreso than basically any other JRPG developer, Falcom is making games I actually want to play.

3) XSEED really needs to get some more Falcom games on Steam to satisfy my addiction, and quick. For whatever reason, I'd really like to see Xanadu Next... or some of Falcom's stuff that hasn't seen a PSP release in the States. But uh... I'll take pretty much whatever I can get.
Hey, don't forget Atlus :(
 

Volcynika

Member
Taken care of Very Easy - Normal so far. Probably going to play other games before I go to Hard difficulty.

My friend got the achievement for killing the last boss with no damage, and I call shenanigans. Though I wonder if you can use an illusion mirror beforehand and at least withstand 3 attacks before you miss it.
 

Eusis

Member
2) I've come to the realization that when it comes to RPGs, Falcom just... gets it. These games have all the charm and addictiveness of hardcore, old-school games; but with a modern coat of paint. Yeah, there's Dark Souls and all that, but I feel like moreso than basically any other JRPG developer, Falcom is making games I actually want to play.
I have a variant of that: I feel like Falcom nails what I like out of JRPGs, at least a good chunk of what I like about them, and Dark Souls nails what I want out of gaming PERIOD, regardless of genre.
 

iavi

Member
It's definitely YMMV, but that's the case with all stretching. Someone like me can barely stand it even on text, others will stretch every god damn thing and not notice it.

True, it working for me is probably helped largely by me not even knowing what the game looked like before this.

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Question: I think I've run into a bug. I escorted Christof to safety, on normal, but the achievement page isn't saying that I did--it still says 0/6. Is that a bug, or does the game not note it until I've beaten the difficulty?

It just took a few minutes to post to the achievement page.
 

Lafiel

と呼ぶがよい
It's definitely YMMV, but that's the case with all stretching. Someone like me can barely stand it even on text, others will stretch every god damn thing and not notice it.
Played around with the resolutions and settings, and I think I like 1600x900 (non-stretched resolution) on my 1080p monitor the best, something about the stretched resolutions like 1080p look off to me.:p although I'm kind of a nazi when it comes to this stuff.
 
3) XSEED really needs to get some more Falcom games on Steam to satisfy my addiction, and quick. For whatever reason, I'd really like to see Xanadu Next... or some of Falcom's stuff that hasn't seen a PSP release in the States. But uh... I'll take pretty much whatever I can get.
Their next Steam game is Ys Origin, which hasn't been released in the States in any form. Its gameplay is kind-of a dungeon-crawler version of Oath in Felghana with more story and multiple characters to play through the game as. It's a prequel to Ys 1&2.
 

LowParry

Member
Their next Steam game is Ys Origin, which hasn't been released in the States in any form. Its gameplay is kind-of a dungeon-crawler version of Oath in Felghana with more story and multiple characters to play through the game as. It's a prequel to Ys 1&2.

I just hope people don't get turned off by the game because you don't play as Adol. The game is extremely fun so don't let that small fact turn you off to Origins.
 

manzo

Member
Played around with the resolutions and settings, and I think I like 1600x900 (non-stretched resolution) on my 1080p monitor the best, something about the stretched resolutions like 1080p look off to me.:p although I'm kind of a nazi when it comes to this stuff.

I'm playing on a 110" screen with a 1080p projector. I found 1440x1050 pretty much the best resolution, since the vertical resolution is closest to the native reso.

I just hope people don't get turned off by the game because you don't play as Adol. The game is extremely fun so don't let that small fact turn you off to Origins.

Play as Yunica in Origins. It's pretty much 1=1 with Adol.
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
I'm playing on a 110" screen with a 1080p projector. I found 1440x1050 pretty much the best resolution, since the vertical resolution is closest to the native reso.



Play as Yunica in Origins. It's pretty much 1=1 with Adol.

Also using 1440x1050 on my 1080p monitor and it looks really good. I'd have used my TV but I don't have that set up with my PC right now.

And some people still say Yunica isn't good enough since she's still not Adol. Which is a bit silly since the series is called "Ys" and Origin is most certainly about the series namesake.
 
Their next Steam game is Ys Origin, which hasn't been released in the States in any form. Its gameplay is kind-of a dungeon-crawler version of Oath in Felghana with more story and multiple characters to play through the game as. It's a prequel to Ys 1&2.
I was already getting it, but this makes me want it more.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
Their next Steam game is Ys Origin, which hasn't been released in the States in any form. Its gameplay is kind-of a dungeon-crawler version of Oath in Felghana with more story and multiple characters to play through the game as. It's a prequel to Ys 1&2.

Yeah, definitely curious... especially after previewing a few songs from the soundtrack.

This, for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVL34JQkW6Q

More my musical style, especially in a game like this.
 

Maedhros

Member
I'm playing on a 110" screen with a 1080p projector. I found 1440x1050 pretty much the best resolution, since the vertical resolution is closest to the native reso.



Play as Yunica in Origins. It's pretty much 1=1 with Adol.

Bu... bu... bu... I can't play as Ys, man...
 

Ultratech

Member
Their next Steam game is Ys Origin, which hasn't been released in the States in any form. Its gameplay is kind-of a dungeon-crawler version of Oath in Felghana with more story and multiple characters to play through the game as. It's a prequel to Ys 1&2.

Yup. Origin is awesome. Just got finished FINALLY beating it the other day. (I got stuck on a boss only to find I was missing a weapon upgrade...kinda put the game down for a few months.)

IIRC, it uses the same general game engine as Oath and VI.

I was already getting it, but this makes me want it more.

Yup, you start out with two characters, Yunica and Hugo. Yunica's basically a female Adol, whereas Hugo's like a human Gladius ship with options and shields (basically like playing a run-and-gun SHUMP). After you beat the game with both of them, you unlock a third character.
 
Their next Steam game is Ys Origin, which hasn't been released in the States in any form. Its gameplay is kind-of a dungeon-crawler version of Oath in Felghana with more story and multiple characters to play through the game as. It's a prequel to Ys 1&2.

I already knew the rest of this, but the bold part is news to me. I always thought the story stuff in Origin would be lighter due to it's seemly much stronger dungeon-crawler nature but I guess I'm wrong. Chalk up one more reason for me to be super excited for Origin now (I got it for free back when they were giving it out through Groupon but decided to just wait for this release instead of playing it now).
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
I already knew the rest of this, but the bold part is news to me. I always thought the story stuff in Origin would be lighter due to it's seemly much stronger dungeon-crawler nature but I guess I'm wrong.

I just played it relatively recently and I didn't feel like it would significantly more story-heavy than Oath. Cutscenes are more frequent, but that seems like it's more due to the more linear nature of the game than the fact there are a whole lot more of them.

It's definitely not as "bloated" as Seven.
 
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