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Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana |OT| Two Systems, Two Heroes, One BIG HOLE

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BassForever

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As a sucker for growing town mechanics, the fact ys 8 is structured around searching an island for castaways to improve the town does a lot to increase my enjoyment of the game.
 
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Lucentto

Banned
Well, I just beat the game, 51 hours. Pretty much 100% (map completion, all treasures, etc...). Absolutely incredible game, Falcom really outdone themselves with this one. Despite the horrid translation (thanks NISA), this is easily one of my favorite Ys games. I like it better than Oath tbh.

I am looking forward to the next Falcom game to hit our shores, maybe Tokyo Xanadu (I dunno, I am kind of burnt out on school settings.)

Also I beg of you Falcom, don't let NISA touch another one of your games...
 
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preta

Member
Lucentto said:
Well, I just beat the game, 51 hours. Pretty much 100% (map completion, all treasures, etc...). Absolutely incredible game, Falcom really outdone themselves with this one. Despite the horrid translation (thanks NISA), this is easily one of my favorite Ys games. I like it better than Oath tbh.

I am looking forward to the next Falcom game to hit our shores, maybe Tokyo Xanadu (I dunno, I am kind of burnt out on school settings.)

Also I beg of you Falcom, don't NISA touch another one of your games...
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Well, the Vita version of Tokyo Xanadu was localized back in June, but I'd definitely recommend waiting for the PS4/PC version later this year, which is significantly better.

Agreed on your other thoughts as well - VIII is my favorite Ys game, beating out even Felghana and Origin.

And yeah... hopefully NISA never gets to touch another Falcom game again. Falcom themselves have said they don't know what makes a good localization and leave everything in the hands of their publishers, so hopefully the negative buzz about the localization quality makes it back to them.

Did you do the
postgame dungeon
, by the way?
 
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BassForever

Member
I like how you can clip into areas you're not supposed to get to till later. Dunno who lets me climb the vines but I ain't got time for that jump and swing until Adol clips his way on top of the cliff from the other side for that chest in nameless shore
 
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Lucentto

Banned
preta said:
Well, the Vita version of Tokyo Xanadu was localized back in June, but I'd definitely recommend waiting for the PS4/PC version later this year, which is significantly better.

Agreed on your other thoughts as well - VIII is my favorite Ys game, beating out even Felghana and Origin.

And yeah... hopefully NISA never gets to touch another Falcom game again. Falcom themselves have said they don't know what makes a good localization and leave everything in the hands of their publishers, so hopefully the negative buzz about the localization quality makes it back to them.

Did you do the
postgame dungeon
, by the way?
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Yeah, I was specifically referring to the PS4 version for TX. Have you played it? Is it any good?

Honestly 7 is probably my current favorite, it may have to do with that being my first Ys game though.

Right now I am just praying they don't get their hands on CS3, I might actually get pissed if that happens.

Also -
Yes, I completed it. I didn't find it too difficult.
 
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preta

Member
Lucentto said:
Yeah, I was specifically referring to the PS4 version for TX. Have you played it? Is it any good?

Honestly 7 is probably my current favorite, it may have to do with that being my first Ys game though.

Right now I am just praying they don't get their hands on CS3, I might actually get pissed if that happens.

Also -
Yes, I completed it. I didn't find it too difficult.
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I have played the PS4 version. I wouldn't call TX Falcom's best game or anything, and it will likely seem a bit underwhelming after Ys VIII, but it's definitely solid. Story-wise, it definitely feels like a Persona-style story with Trails-style writing (although not on that level), if that makes sense. The dungeons and bosses aren't as consistently good or unique as Ys for the most part, although there are some great ones in the second half of the game. I do have to give the soundtrack special mention for being one of my favorite modern Falcom soundtracks.
 
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Saint of Killers

Member
sloppyjoe_gamer said:
Really loving this game but am i stupid or is this games map confusing AF at times? When you hit the L dir pad it pulls it up but you only see his head and not what direction hes going. If you hit the D dir pad it pulls up a different, closer map but its not even the same direction as if you had hit L instead. I find myself thinking im heading towards a story point or some other ? and i end up going the opposite direction.
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Apologies if you know all this:

Try switching Mini-Map option to Synchronized with screen rotation and turn on Mini-Map Range. (It'll add a cone pointing in the direction cam is looking... which may help?)
On the area map the dots behind Ad's giant head are supposed to help you figure out which direction you're headed in, (the more solid dot colours = the latter of the steps you took) though I can easily see these not being of much use if you're sat at afar from your display.
Personally, my issues with the map are more of the Where the floop am I going next?!?! variety than anything else >_< Though thankfully that only really happened the once.
 
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Sinh_Magnus

Member
silva1991 said:
Of course
Silvia the fucking hero gladiator
isn't a party member. It makes too much sense for this anime game

SIGH.
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At least she's in the game. And if her dialogue is any indication,
she's going to clean the floor with you once she agrees to fight adol
.

The cast of npcs has grown on me throught the game. There are some obnoxious characters but overall I like them and I find myself talking to everyone each time there's progress in the story.
 
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silva1991

Member
Sinh_Magnus said:
At least she's in the game. And if her dialogue is any indication,
she's going to clean the floor with you once she agrees to fight adol
.

The cast of npcs has grown on me throught the game. There are some obnoxious characters but overall I like them and I find myself talking to everyone each time there's progress in the story.
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The things I would do to replace her with Ricotta lol

What is the best place to farm for red meat and mushrooms? I don't understand why low ranking material like red meat is hard to get.
 
sloppyjoe_gamer

sloppyjoe_gamer

Gold Member
Saint of Killers said:
Apologies if you know all this:

Try switching Mini-Map option to Synchronized with screen rotation and turn on Mini-Map Range. (It'll add a cone pointing in the direction cam is looking... which may help?)
On the area map the dots behind Ad's giant head are supposed to help you figure out which direction you're headed in, (the more solid dot colours = the latter of the steps you took) though I can easily see these not being of much use if you're sat at afar from your display.
Personally, my issues with the map are more of the Where the floop am I going next?!?! variety than anything else >_< Though thankfully that only really happened the once.
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Thank you for all of this!!!! I didnt know those options existed, i will definitely enable those tonight when i play again. I also had no clue what all those dots meant lol. Thanks again!
 
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Thud

Member
silva1991 said:
The things I would do to replace her with Ricotta lol

What is the best place to farm for red meat and mushrooms? I don't understand why low ranking material like red meat is hard to get.
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That cave under the waterfall where you find
the nun
has mushrooms.

As for meats, you could fish a lot :p.

Alternative would be to hunt low level beasts or sell higher level meat.
 
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ys45

Member
So what's up with Ricotta calling
Shoebill
her superior? Did they translate literally Senpai? My guess is she calls him Senpai in Japanese and they made a direct translation?

English is not my native language so I did not really notice anything else but this part sounded weird to me.
 
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leesmapman

Member
preta said:
Well, the Vita version of Tokyo Xanadu was localized back in June, but I'd definitely recommend waiting for the PS4/PC version later this year, which is significantly better.
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Translation of Tokyo Xanadu is horrible though. Really the worst. I liked the machine-translated one of Zero No Kiseki better.
 
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Thud

Member
ys45 said:
So what's up with Ricotta calling
Shoebill
her superior? Did they translate literally Senpai? My guess is she calls him Senpai in Japanese and they made a direct translation?

English is not my native language so I did not really notice anything else but this part sounded weird to me.
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Have you looked at him. Fabulous bird can down a guardian in one gulp.

Best be polite.
 
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Lightning Lord

Banned
ys45 said:
So what's up with Ricotta calling
Shoebill
her superior? Did they translate literally Senpai? My guess is she calls him Senpai in Japanese and they made a direct translation?

English is not my native language so I did not really notice anything else but this part sounded weird to me.
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Don't worry, English is my native language and it sounded bizarre the moment I heard it.
 
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Bladenic

Member
leesmapman said:
Translation of Tokyo Xanadu is horrible though. Really the worst. I liked the machine-translated one of Zero No Kiseki better.
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So two falcom games with less than savory translations? :/ (not that Ys8 is horrible).

At least Xseed released The 3rd (not that I've played it yet).

Anyway, I've hit the point where the game is super fun, everything clicks, and I can't wait to play more. I only just got my fifth party member so I assume still have tons to go though (chapter 3). I think I'm around mid to high 40s map completion.
 
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Bladenic

Member
This is just one person's tweet but this tweet said that there's actually missing voiced dialogue in the game. Anyone who's played both JP and EN versions have any input? It would be weird that NISA, a company far bigger than Xseed, would cut corners like that.
 
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Lord of Ostia

Member
leesmapman said:
Translation of Tokyo Xanadu is horrible though. Really the worst. I liked the machine-translated one of Zero No Kiseki better.
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The translation is not horrible, it's way better than NISA's Ys VIII translation for sure. There are some technical issues with the localization, like text not being formatted correctly inside the text boxes, and it's not XSEED quality but it is above average.
 
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Aeana

Member
Bladenic said:
This is just one person's tweet but this tweet said that there's actually missing voiced dialogue in the game. Anyone who's played both JP and EN versions have any input? It would be weird that NISA, a company far bigger than Xseed, would cut corners like that.
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NISA has been releasing partial English dubs of games for a very long time, do that would not be weird or surprising.
 
Begaria

Begaria

Member
Bladenic said:
This is just one person's tweet but this tweet said that there's actually missing voiced dialogue in the game. Anyone who's played both JP and EN versions have any input? It would be weird that NISA, a company far bigger than Xseed, would cut corners like that.
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There is. I'm playing with the English voice acting, and there was one single flashback cutscene that used Japanese voice acting, rather than the English voice acting that I had on. It's the only instance so far, even though I'm almost finished with the game, of it happening.
 
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Kain-Nosgoth

Member
welp, now i'm sure 100% i'm not gonna do the platinum.... to much time to waste to get it (100 % item completion rate for exemple)

i'll be okay with the secrets bosses!

question :

missing one quest in eternia, guess that's the post-game dungeon? the door on the floor of the lava area?

also where do i get the last big fish? The only fish i'm missing
 
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QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
ys45 said:
So what's up with Ricotta calling
Shoebill
her superior? Did they translate literally Senpai? My guess is she calls him Senpai in Japanese and they made a direct translation?

English is not my native language so I did not really notice anything else but this part sounded weird to me.
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That's nothing, the worst is,
BROTHER ADOL BROTHER HUMMEL SISTER LAXIA SISTER DANA

The superior thing to me while super stupid I at least find a little funny
 
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Sinh_Magnus

Member
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QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
Sinh_Magnus said:
I'm not sure of what to make of (chapter 5 spoilers)
okeanos fight. It definitely up there with my less favourites fights of the game



I should have seen this before. It might had helped making this fight more fun to me. I just seated back flash guarding forever.
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it really sucks because if you can't at least almost get to the red bar the second phase is super tedious and the 3rd phase isn't really something you want to deal with for an extended period
 
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QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
Kain-Nosgoth said:
ho yeah i forgot about this one, never wore it because of the movement
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It's useful on some bosses that are more agressive and don't require a lot of movement to chase down. But it works best on hummel in general just because of judgement shot and his ult being as strong as it is already. Like if I used it on that boss I linked earlier I'm pretty sure it would have been over in almost 30 seconds instead of a minute as long as he didn't run a lot
 
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ys45

Member
QisTopTier said:
That's nothing, the worst is,
BROTHER ADOL BROTHER HUMMEL SISTER LAXIA SISTER DANA

The superior thing to me while super stupid I at least find a little funny
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Yeah that too sounded funny I mean when you know Japanese culture you understand why he is saying this but they could have at least made an effort to localize this and use another term.

Oh well, at least we get to play the game in functional English.
 
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Sinh_Magnus

Member
QisTopTier said:
Oh shit you passed me haha
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I didn't; I saw your post before: Gameplay spoilers
The message appears from the moment you try to save in the past before getting Dana's light form, which is awesome by the way. Do we know if you can get Dana's forms in the present or ng+?.

Edit: O wow guess I'm having a little peek of a what no item run is
I only have like two antidotes with dana for this part
 
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QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
Sinh_Magnus said:
I didn't; I saw your post before: Gameplay spoilers
The message appears from the moment you try to save in the past before getting Dana's light form, which is awesome by the way. Do we know if you can get Dana's forms in the present or ng+?.
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Oh no clue how I missed that LOL
not sure I'd imagine that stuff is exclusive to her part of the game unless there is an acessory or item she can equip to force her into those stances in the main game

Edit: are you fighting the first boss after you get
Light form? He's not too bad :)
 
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