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Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-V |OT| Card Games on Hippos

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Skimmed through the first episode, and I have some impressions.

* The OP has a trippy song, but also pretty simple. Unlike, say, the first opening to GX, it's very light on spoilers...all we see is Yuya's various monsters, and his main friends. There's a shot of Reiji, and this mysterious dude who looks like Yugi x Dio, and is holding what people are speculating might be the new Blue Eyes Dragon counterpart (you can't see the name of the card or the picture, but it's three of the same cards with high levels), so possibly the antagonist.

* There's lots of classic Duel Monsters throwbacks at the beginning of the show displayed on billboards, such as Skull Servant and Dian Keto, and many others that I can't name off-hand because my Yu-Gi-Oh knowledge is a little rusty.

* Yuya's a fun antagonist. He's competent, having the upper-hand most of the main Duel and knows what he's doing, but he has lots of little silly moments as well. After all, he's basically a circus performer more or less. However, some might see him as a DEM...I mean, he literally appears to invent Pendulum Summoning during the middle of the duel.

* Yuya's missing dad has a cool design, and seems like his disappearance will have a big role on the show, so I'm waiting to see how that plays out.

* Even though there are Dueling Schools, it doesn't seem like it'll be a big focus like it was in GX since it seems like a "cram school" that the kids train at as opposed to their primary place of learning.

* The supporting characters really don't do much in this episode, so it's hard to say how they'll turn out to be. Most of them seem like they'll just be cheerleaders, and probably won't duel much, although the one kid, who looks like Rua from 5Ds, apparently is supposed to play a bigger role according to pre-release info.

* The main opponent of the episode, Strong Ishijima, looks like a reject from Fist of the North Star, and plays a deck that uses the old Swamp and Lava Battleguards from Season 1! We don't see them, though, as he sacrifices them for a new Battleguard Monster, but it's a nice throwback. Yuya's dad disappeared when dueling him, so I imagine he'll probably be a reoccuring character. I'm betting he'll be like Chronos from GX/Ushio from 5Ds, who starts out antagonistically but eventually mellows out into a comedic frenemy.

* Actions Duels are fun to look at, but the "Action Cards", which the characters find in the middle of the Duel, are a bit cheap since in this episode they were really situational and found them off-screen most of the time. This doesn't bother me, however, since it's no different in theory from the typical Yu-Gi-Oh top-decking, plus I imagine, like in 5Ds, we'll be seeing typical "Non-Action Duels" as well that use the regular rules.

* It's really hard to tell where the show is gonna go in terms of tone, it's pretty grounded for Yu-Gi-Oh so far with no overt mystical elements, basically at this point the only plot element is the disappearance of Yuya's dad, so I'm interested to see how the show develops.

Hippos! Really?


The main character's cute mascot card is a Hippo. Don't worry, the other characters will be riding around on different monsters. In fact, Yuuya also rides on his main 2500-ATK monster, Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon too.

Wow... I am so confused with the rules of yugioh now.Since when did the Extra Deck thing became implemented? I don't remember that in the original card game

Extra Deck has always been around, it's where you put your Fusion Monsters.

It's become more prominent though in recent years as now it also houses Synchro and Xyz Monsters, in addition to Pendulum Monsters after they're discarded.

I remember when yugioh was about ancient Egyptian items.

After GX they stopped trying to tie in with the original series.

So, Arc-V can be viewed standalone without having watched the other series, although there will likely be little call-backs to classic Monsters and Duels.
 

Regiruler

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Lol we get an OT? Did zexal get one?

EDIT: I'm very knowledgeable on game mechanics so I can help address pendulum questions when I get to a real computer.
You can destroy them with spell/trap destruction so simply running/siding more will be good until we get new spells and traps aimed at protecting us from the new monster type and we'll probably see some either in the upcoming set or the next one. There's also the fact that a lot of decks won't be able to run until Konami starts pumping out new archetypes and support for older ones.
Simply destroying the pendulums will just be delaying the inevitable if the opponent's deck has any sort of consistency since it will just recur from the extra deck. That is unless you're playing artifacts and play upwards of 8 S/T destruction cards.
Extra Deck has always been around, it's where you put your Fusion Monsters.

It's become more prominent though in recent years as now it also houses Synchro and Xyz Monsters, in addition to Pendulum Monsters after they're discarded.
Never, EVER use that term in a yugioh context when referring to something other than the hand. It exclusively refers to sending cards from your hand to the graveyard, or banished on the rare occasion macro cosmos is face-up.
 

Sandfox

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Lol we get an OT? Did zexal get one?

EDIT: I'm very knowledgeable on game mechanics so I can help address pendulum questions when I get to a real computer.

Simply destroying the pendulums will just be delaying the inevitable if the opponent's deck has any sort of consistency since it will just recur from the extra deck. That is unless you're playing artifacts and play upwards of 8 S/T destruction cards.

I would consider delaying it the entire point since the decks we're seeing so far will more than likely lose if they don't get them fast. In the future when we start more pendulum stuff things will be different though.
 

Regiruler

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I would consider delaying it the entire point since the decks we're seeing so far will more than likely lose if they don't get them fast. In the future when we start more pendulum stuff things will be different though.

The most successful decks at the moment that use pendulums are decks that can function without them but are greatly aided by the speed while being fairly consistent. That boils down to gadgets, essentially, while there has been a scrap variant. I'm sure there are others and I just haven't seen them personally due to pendulums not yet being up on dueling network.

Both of these would shrug at the loss of the pendulum monster and keep on playing.
Considering the lack of subs for late Zexal, will any one sub this?

I just want a faster dub for christ sake. A year later when the sets are only 4 months later is downright criminal.
 

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From what I read, the dudes who are subbing Zexal are gonna take a break from that to get out Arc-V, and then finish up the remaining episodes alongside it.
 

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Well, someone subbed it already...

Anyway, Yuya's pretty cool as I said earlier, and has nice potential for character development. I like how his goofy nature is actually a defense mechanism to hide the fact that he's actually scared of Dueling the champ, and how he doesn't want anyone to laugh at him due to his Father being a forfeiter, so he laughs at himself before they get a chance.

The Action Cards being super-situational is explained a bit, basically Yuya can use his pendulum to find them around the field and focuses on doing that first, thus why he always has the right one. Still a D.E.M. basically, but at the least they gave a reason behind it.

Pendulum Summoning, well, Yuya definitely straight-up invents it, but I have a theory that in reality an outside force probably was responsible for it, and I imagine that other Duelists at the same time suddenly had their cards transformed as well, so we'll see more Pendulum Monsters as time goes on.

Next episode continues the fight against Strong, focuses on the fall-out of Pendulum Summoning which causes people to flock to You Show Dueling School, and even the female lead will get to Duel a bit against Yuya it seems, so that's nice. Here's hoping we get some good plot points next time, like what's the deal with Pendulum Summoning suddenly appearing, a possible antagonist, and a better sense of what the tone of the series will be.
 

Gorillaz

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What was the rules after synchro? I forgot the term, but that killed the meta game for ALOT of people.

This looks even more interesting
 

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What was the rules after synchro? I forgot the term, but that killed the meta game for ALOT of people.

This looks even more interesting

Xyz.

I've never actually played the TCG since Xyz was introduced (because there's no video-game versions anymore in the US), but it seemed cool to me when I saw it in the show. Basically you have to have two monsters with the same level on the field, and you can summon a Xyz Monster from your Extra Deck with that same level. Then those two monsters are attached to it, and by sending them to the Graveyard you can activate the Xyz Monsters unique effects.

I'm hoping Arc-V features a decent amount of Synchros and Xyz Monsters alongside the Pendulum Monsters, instead of ignoring them like Zexal I hear did with Synchros.
 

Sandfox

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Xyz.

I've never actually played the TCG since Xyz was introduced (because there's no video-game versions anymore in the US), but it seemed cool to me when I saw it in the show. Basically you have to have two monsters with the same level on the field, and you can summon a Xyz Monster from your Extra Deck with that same level. Then those two monsters are attached to it, and by sending them to the Graveyard you can activate the Xyz Monsters unique effects.

I'm hoping Arc-V features a decent amount of Synchros and Xyz Monsters alongside the Pendulum Monsters, instead of ignoring them like Zexal I hear did with Synchros.

They started releasing Synchros again after a few pack of Xyz. The show itself will do what 5Ds and Zexal did and not show the older extra deck mechanics though.
 
I'm guessing that what turned off some people was the fact that Yuma was just AWFUL at dueling at the beginning rather than the usual already-the-best-ever protagonist the series has (exaggeration obviously but you get me). Personally I thought it was refreshing although a bit frustrating in some of the beginning episodes.

I liked Yuma and seeing him grow, and also the fact that he was just a kid dealing with depression by being overly cheerful using the phrase his father taught him to keep him motivated.

Also I loved Vector, so that's one more point in Zexal's favor.

It really wasn't that Yuma was just TERRIBLE at dueling but he literally would not take any advice whatsoever, regardless from his rival, cheerleaders, space ghost, etc. He was a completely terrible protagonist that just grated from the start.

His voice didn't help one bit.

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Oh right, watched the first episode. Leaps and bounds more enjoyable than ZeXal and I enjoyed how colorful and energetic it is.
 

Kasumin

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Was ready to write-off this series entirely like I did with ZEXAL, but you've all got me interested! Between a protagonist who sounds goofy, yet competent, a villain who strongly resembles Yugi (from what I saw in the OP), and Hipster Kaiba... I'm rather intrigued to watch this series.

Thanks for all the info. It's nice to find info in one place like this instead of trying to scour the chaotic cesspool that is tumblr.
 
i feel like im missing something but why is an OT about an anime doing in gaming?

and wheres my ygo 3ds english already damn it (although it looks like pure garbage cashin).

vanguard 3ds would be neat too!
 

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Was ready to write-off this series entirely like I did with ZEXAL, but you've all got me interested! Between a protagonist who sounds goofy, yet competent, a villain who strongly resembles Yugi (from what I saw in the OP), and Hipster Kaiba... I'm rather intrigued to watch this series.

Thanks for all the info. It's nice to find info in one place like this instead of trying to scour the chaotic cesspool that is tumblr.

You're welcome! It was actually difficult to really figure out what the series was about going by the pre-release info, for example the Yu-Gi-Oh Wiki summary said Yuya attended Leo Duel School, when in the actual show Leo Duel School's the big one, while Yuya is a member of the smaller You Show Duel School.

Also, for every Zexal is shit post I've seen, I also see people swear that it gets really good in the second half, to the point that, along with Arc-V getting me back into Yu-Gi-Oh, I'm giving Zexal another shot. I only got to Episode 11 before and dropped out, watching a few more episodes, I have to say at the very least Shark and Kaito, the two rivals, are neat characters, and I always found Yuma and Astral to be a neat shout-out to the original Yugi/Pharaoh partnership that's a little more balanced since one doesn't overtake the other in screen-time.



i feel like im missing something but why is an OT about an anime doing in gaming?

and wheres my ygo 3ds english already damn it (although it looks like pure garbage cashin).

vanguard 3ds would be neat too!

Yu-Gi-Oh = King of Games. Boom, it's gaming!

Actually, I just posted it in the wrong forum, and no mod has moved it yet. I figured they all assume it's actually a videogame.
 

Zalman

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I stopped watching the show a long time ago, but the card game is still fun. I don't really see the point of this new card mechanic.
 

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so pendulum zoning 5 star monsters require no sacrifice?

does it override other effects or can ANY monster be summoned?

No sacrifice required.

I think the only monsters you can't summon are ones that specifically say they cannot be Special Summoned or require a unique Special Summon condition to be met.
 

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New Episode Summaries.

Episode 3
Dark Town: The Stolen Pendulum Summon!!
April 20th, 2014
Yuya, in order to master Pendulum Summoning, Yuya repeatedly Duels against Gongenzaka. But as they fight, a strange shadow approaches Yuya... ...

Episode 4
A Ray of Hope! Block Spider
April 27th, 2014
In order to save Yuzu and the others who have been kidnapped, Yuya duels Sawatari Shingo. However, he's shocked when he sees his Chronomancy and Astromancy Magicians have been stolen and Shingo's using 'em.

Episode 5
A Strange Groupie/Fanboy!? "Shiunin Sora"
May 4th, 2014
A mysterious boy, called Sora, keeps bugging Yuya. Infatuated by Yuya's Entertainment Duels, he wishes to become Yuya's apprentice.

Shingo is, people are speculating, the blond dude in the OP. Sora's the kid with the blue ponytail.
 
Arc-V is surprisingly entertaining to watch.
What a cool and fun way to introduce old and new fans into the anime series. Looking forward to Yuya's shenanigans and Action Duels in the coming episodes. Wished the English dubbed version is out already!
 
Holy crap I haven't played the TCG in years and it's so different now. I wonder if they'll keep adding new mechanics to the real world TCG with each anime. Eventually it'll be tok much, no?
 
Pendulum summoning sounds extremely unbalanced if I've understood it correctly. Do you have to 'summon' the Monster cards to the Pendulum Zone, or can you just play multiple of them immediately like Spell cards? Can I Pendulum Summon four Level 5 Monsters at once, which I can then use to overlay?

The show sounds interesting. I really loved 5D's, but lost interest in ZeXal around halfway through. =/
 
Pendulum summoning sounds extremely unbalanced if I've understood it correctly. Do you have to 'summon' the Monster cards to the Pendulum Zone, or can you just play multiple of them immediately like Spell cards? Can I Pendulum Summon four Level 5 Monsters at once, which I can then use to overlay?

The show sounds interesting. I really loved 5D's, but lost interest in ZeXal around halfway through. =/
4 level 5s at once? Wut?

If I'm not mistaken on my interpretation from the show, in order to Pendulum Summon you use two cards on each side of the Scale.

Left scale: 1
Right scale: 8

Now you can summon as many monsters in between 1 & 8 so you can summon monsters lvls 2 - 7. No clarification on Pendulum Summoning multiples of the same level at the exact same time.
 
4 level 5s at once? Wut?

If I'm not mistaken on my interpretation from the show, in order to Pendulum Summon you use two cards on each side of the Scale.

Left scale: 1
Right scale: 8

Now you can summon as many monsters in between 1 & 8 so you can summon monsters lvls 2 - 7. No clarification on Pendulum Summoning multiples of the same level at the exact same time.

Ah, that makes much more sense. Thanks for the clarification.
 

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Episode 2 aired, and watching the raw it seemed like a good "exposition" episode.

Yuya apparently enters a trance during Pendulum Summoning and doesn't remember how he does it, so much so that he's later unable to do it when he duels Yuzu. Seems like he's even called out for cheating by making up Pendulum Summoning mid-duel by a bunch of kids too, so it's nice that they're actually referencing the fact the Main Character "cheats" for once.

Yuzu actually beat Yuya in a duel. Even though it was partially because he couldn't get Pendulum Summoning to work, it's still nice to finally have the main female win against the protagonist on-screen. Hopefully she's not pushed to the wayside like Asuka and Aki were.

Finally, we've already got movement by the "villains", with Shingo being hired to go after Yuya's Pendulum Monsters. He's shown using throwing darts, so I guess his deck might center on dart-like cards. Hope the show keeps up this nice momentum going forward.
 

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Really liking this show so far. Glad an OT was made, was considering doing one myself.

Never saw Zexal but something about this one has me totally drawn in. Yuya's awesome.
 

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Christmas hair > all

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Believe! Believe! Be-be-believe buddies!
 

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If you're still on the fence about this show, check out Episode 3.

Personally, I thought it was awesome.

First off it was the debut of Shingo Sawatari, who at this point seems like he'll end up being the "Manjyome" of Arc-V, but with elements of Weevil here as well. Unlike Weevil, he didn't just snatch Yuya's Pendulum Monsters, he used them as well. Dude was pretty awesome, and I hope he doesn't fade to the wayside once Reiji appears. Speaking of which, Reiji was pretty interesting in this episode as well, hiding behind the shadows and ordering Shingo around.

The Episode really sold the concept of "Action Duels", with Yuya using Whip Viper like Indiana Jones and swinging around a giant city, and the debut of "Action Traps, which in this episode were giant Pool Balls that attempted to crush Yuya. Seems oddly enough you can also get hurt in Action Duels, possibly even die, due to the Solid Vision System. Like quite a few times in this episode it was implied that the characters could die from falling from a great height, or being crushed to death.

The only thing I'm worried about going forward is it seems like the Duels will be simpler due to the way the Action Duels work, with a focus on moving around the field as opposed to complex strategies and such, but I don't mind that too much as long as they're entertaining. Plus I imagine, for budget reasons, we'll see classic Duels as well, "Non-Action Duels" as they're referred to I believe.
 

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I dunno, Action Duels kinda seem like bullshit. I know that just playing a "normal card game" is "boring" for "kids today" but for some reason it feels even more cheese-mode than how the game is normally played on the show. Like, you can dodge an attack with an Action Card you just happen to find? And you have to pick stupid cards (like the snake) to summon because of the environment instead of a more powerful one? Not a fan.

Everything else is fantastic though. Good characters and writing. Wonder what blue-haired lollipop kid's deal is.
 

Jado

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I know this is about the show, but who even plays Yugioh anymore? When I stopped in 2004, the game was in shambles with how cheap and easy everything became to play. It's like Magic without land/mana and every card is super-powerful and unbalanced.

A year back, I decide to see what the consensus was on the current state of the game and came across a Yugioh message board rants about how insanely fast you can end your opponent (literally a turn or two). They were complaining about how their old-school cards (already OP ones that made me quit in the first place) couldn't stand a chance to the relentless new stuff constantly coming out. This card game sucks so much. Right from the beginning it's a race for who can go for the super-early instant kill. This pendulum garbage looks to be adding more fuel to an out of control inferno.
 

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I've never been into the actual card-game, I've always been into the show first.

I just like the idea of a "card battle anime", and I enjoy the show because they get to show off a lot of fun cards and strategies that wouldn't work in real life because they'd get shut down instantly by staple cards. With that in mind, if the actual characters, setting, and duels are entertaining, than that's fine by me.

I also like the video-games for the same reason, the CPU isn't as relentless and plays funner "themed decks", so you can experiment around with cards and enjoy yourself without worrying too much about the Metagame and what other people will think of you.
 

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I know this is about the show, but who even plays Yugioh anymore? When I stopped in 2004, the game was in shambles with how cheap and easy everything became to play. It's like Magic without land/mana and every card is super-powerful and unbalanced.

A year back, I decide to see what the consensus was on the current state of the game and came across a Yugioh message board rants about how insanely fast you can end your opponent (literally a turn or two). They were complaining about how their old-school cards (already OP ones that made me quit in the first place) couldn't stand a chance to the relentless new stuff constantly coming out. This card game sucks so much. Right from the beginning it's a race for who can go for the super-early instant kill. This pendulum garbage looks to be adding more fuel to an out of control inferno.

Actually that's exactly what I like about it. The games are very fast and you can play a lot in a short amount of time. The most imbalanced cards are banned and there's more than a few (around like ~15 or so) deck archetypes that are completely viable in a tournament. Comes down to a bit of luck, a bit of picking the right cards, and a bit of skill. Great card game.
 

Wichu

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I know this is about the show, but who even plays Yugioh anymore? When I stopped in 2004, the game was in shambles with how cheap and easy everything became to play. It's like Magic without land/mana and every card is super-powerful and unbalanced.

A year back, I decide to see what the consensus was on the current state of the game and came across a Yugioh message board rants about how insanely fast you can end your opponent (literally a turn or two). They were complaining about how their old-school cards (already OP ones that made me quit in the first place) couldn't stand a chance to the relentless new stuff constantly coming out. This card game sucks so much. Right from the beginning it's a race for who can go for the super-early instant kill. This pendulum garbage looks to be adding more fuel to an out of control inferno.

I don't think Pendulum Summons are going to be that good (at least not with the cards we have so far). You need to play two Pendulum Monsters with suitable Pendulum Scales (keep in mind they seem to be weaker than normal monsters, so filling your deck with Pendulums will make your actual monster force sub-par), and they're very weak to disruption (a Mystical Space Typhoon can take out an attempted Pendulum Summon, and a Bottomless Trap Hole can leave you several cards down). But we'll see how much support they get.

I don't play competitively, but I keep up with the card game so I can look out for cards to add to my deck. Currently it seems to be pretty diverse, with many different deck types doing well in tournaments. There's plenty of slower decks that try to grind out the opponent with incremental advantage. Yeah, the game is much faster-paced than Magic, but it's hardly unbalanced (well, depending on the current format). I still prefer Magic overall, though.

I've never been into the actual card-game, I've always been into the show first.

I just like the idea of a "card battle anime", and I enjoy the show because they get to show off a lot of fun cards and strategies that wouldn't work in real life because they'd get shut down instantly by staple cards. With that in mind, if the actual characters, setting, and duels are entertaining, than that's fine by me.

I also like the video-games for the same reason, the CPU isn't as relentless and plays funner "themed decks", so you can experiment around with cards and enjoy yourself without worrying too much about the Metagame and what other people will think of you.

Agreed. In the video game nobody can hate on me for playing chain burn :p

I'm looking forward to the impending international release of the 3DS game. The lack of online functionality doesn't massively bother me, and there's a mode where you play as characters from the show and use their decks. Seems fun :)

EDIT: I actually find Yu-Gi-Oh! more exciting to play than Magic, since there's much more potential for epic comebacks and surprise moves. Though I find Magic more fun overall (as I said), YGO has its moments too.
 

Regiruler

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I don't think Pendulum Summons are going to be that good (at least not with the cards we have so far). You need to play two Pendulum Monsters with suitable Pendulum Scales (keep in mind they seem to be weaker than normal monsters, so filling your deck with Pendulums will make your actual monster force sub-par), and they're very weak to disruption (a Mystical Space Typhoon can take out an attempted Pendulum Summon, and a Bottomless Trap Hole can leave you several cards down). But we'll see how much support they get.

I don't play competitively, but I keep up with the card game so I can look out for cards to add to my deck. Currently it seems to be pretty diverse, with many different deck types doing well in tournaments. There's plenty of slower decks that try to grind out the opponent with incremental advantage. Yeah, the game is much faster-paced than Magic, but it's hardly unbalanced (well, depending on the current format). I still prefer Magic overall, though.

Pendulums just need more solid choices as well as a variety of typing so that other decks can best make most of it through more easily searching them or benefiting more from synchro or xyz plays. E.g., I need a level 4 fairy pendulum that has a scale less than or greater than 4 so I can use it in Star Seraphs (which are an amazing deck in the OCG now thanks to the first Arc V set's OCG exclusives).

And on the topic of balance, the game just took a massive nosedive with Dragons of Legend:

This is the most broken card that has been released in a long time in the TCG, and with meta heavy hitters primal origins and duelist alliance/advent hot on it's heels, the game is going to go into turmoil.\
EDIT: But I feed on turmoil and will use it to my advantage on two levels: the physical game level and the dueling network level. I'm going to use Artifacts (from Primal Origins) in the upcoming philadelphia tournament, and the aforementioned star seraphs, in conjunction with Soul Charge, will let me do essentially whatever I want with my opponent.
 

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Todays cards ain't got shit on Invasion of Chaos. Two uber broken cards right out of the pack (at least one of which is still pretty hax in today's modern decks.)

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This motherfucker is what nightmares are made of.
 

Regiruler

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At least I can rest easy knowing it's going to get limited/banned on the next banlist. There are some cards that should stay anime-exclusive.

If anything Dragons of Legend should have been after May so I could play artifacts without it in the format (too low of a monster count to use it), and have it coexist with Star Seraphs once they (hopefully) are printed in the mega tins.
Todays cards ain't got shit on Invasion of Chaos. Two uber broken cards right out of the pack (at least one of which is still pretty hax in today's modern decks.)

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This motherfucker is what nightmares are made of.
BLS really isn't all that impressive anymore, but CED would be fucking terrifying with Chaos Dragons and LSD being able to search it.
 
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