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Zenless Zone Zero ༺*|OT|*༻ Gotta Waifu 'Em All ♡(੭´͈ ᐜ `͈)੭♡
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Pejo
Gold Member
What teams do you guys use for the Marionette twins boss? I can beat it, but it sure is a drag because it's hard to have them both roughly down to the same % HP before you kill one due to the wonky targeting feature. I've been experimenting with both Zhu Yuan and Ellen as dps, but niether of them seem great for it. I'm tempted to say fuck the weakness suggestions and just take my Yanagi in there.
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Lmao took my Yanagi team of Anby/Rina/Yanagi and beat it in under a minute. Fuck them twins, and fuck suggested weaknesses lol.
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Lmao took my Yanagi team of Anby/Rina/Yanagi and beat it in under a minute. Fuck them twins, and fuck suggested weaknesses lol.
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Icymanipulator
Member
I use a Zhu team but ya that fight is annoying
Pejo
Gold Member
I hope the decibel update is favorable to her. Out of the DPS characters I have, she feels the worst to play. She feels useless when she runs out of ether bullets and I don't like the "hold the button down and move the stick" type gameplay from our gun characters. Can't wait for a new Ether DPS to hit so I can move on from her. She probably gets fixed with additional copies or her W-Engine, but I don't want to invest anything else into her at this point.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Well, recent rumors and beta leaks in regards to 1.4 were true, so maybe rumored Zhu's rerun is also a thing. We'll see.
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Spyxos
Member
So the small ZZZ communuty here became even smaller.
Pejo
Gold Member
He sent me a message in a game, that he wanted to say goodbye to everyone in the thread and wish you luck on your pulls. I am the bearer of said message.
If you all do not roll Miyabi you will dishonor him.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
About yesterday's fan voted award at TGA 2024 that got people riled up on socials and even here on GAF: I voted for all 3 gachas that made it to the final (ZZZ, WuWa and Genshin). so I guess I'm part of the problem. 
But being real, I had a lot of fun this year with all 3 gachas so I'm glad that they've made into the final. And no, I don't expect any free pulls or currency in these games in return lol.
Edit: This reply got me laughing hard.
But being real, I had a lot of fun this year with all 3 gachas so I'm glad that they've made into the final. And no, I don't expect any free pulls or currency in these games in return lol.
Edit: This reply got me laughing hard.
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Spyxos
Member
I voted for Black Myth and ZZZ and never expected ZZZ to be still in the race.About yesterday's fan voted award at TGA 2024 that got people riled up on socials and even here on GAF: I voted for all 3 gachas that made it to the final (ZZZ, WuWa and Genshin). so I guess I'm part of the problem.
But being real, I had a lot of fun this year with all 3 gachas so I'm glad that they've made into the final. And no, I don't expect any free pulls or currency in these games in return lol.
Edit: This reply got me laughing hard.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Good stuff! If I win the 50/50 I think I might go for her w-engine.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
I'll believe it when I see it.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
TGA - Players vote:
So all the Chinese fans mass voted Black Myth in.....and the freaks mass voted in the gatcha games. '
Industry is doomed.
So all the Chinese fans mass voted Black Myth in.....and the freaks mass voted in the gatcha games. '
Industry is doomed.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Be gone tourist!
Pejo
Gold Member
Aenima
Member
50 polychromes. Why not just give away a tape, even for the normal banner?
Maybe im just playing too much Brown Dust 2... Last month or so, I mentioned how generous Shift Up was with they anniversary by giving away around 200 pulls plus a new free character, well Brown Dust 2 devs dont want to feel left out and for they 1.5 anniversary they are giving away 2 characters, (1 brand new + rerun character from last year) and 500 free pulls. I dont even know how the game sustains itself as i never had to use my gems in the gacha. They give away so many gacha tickets that i have been able to pull in every banner and get the characters and my ticket count just keeps increasing, now i have close to 600 tickets.
When it comes to ZZZ i might drop it after Miyabi and maybe will start WuWa when it drops on PS5. The gameplay loop is doing nothing for me, anymore. Love the characters and animations but the game lacks in many other departments. Will see if the 1.4 changes are enough to keep the game interesting or not.
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Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Yeah, combat gameplay (as well as small events which are mostly bad) is no longer doing it for me either, it's been ~5 months and it feels like I've seen everything there is to see combat-wise 3 months ago (I highly doubt that new combat tweaks in 1.4 will improve and change it dramatically, but we'll see). I did let them know what I feel about the game so far via survey, hopefully they'll do something about it and will make the game better where it needs to be going forward and after 1.4, cuz I don't think they even begun to realize all of the ZZZ strengths ~5 months later and improve the game in key and much needed areas where it needs it the most, cut the pointless, boring crap and stop wasting their dev time on it.
Can't wait for 1.4, it sure looks like the best update for the game since launch, but again, we'll see if it'll actually deliver what all previous updates didn't and should've
Can't wait for 1.4, it sure looks like the best update for the game since launch, but again, we'll see if it'll actually deliver what all previous updates didn't and should've
Pejo
Gold Member
Man...
I was just doing dailies and grinding some disk upgrades for a few characters tonight. I was 7 stamina short for a final run, so I went in and collected 7 stamina from my overflow, did the run, then noticed that I used 7 ether batteries instead of pulling 7 from the overflow. Then I had to grind out another 400~ stamina....
All of that and still not a single usable disk.
I was just doing dailies and grinding some disk upgrades for a few characters tonight. I was 7 stamina short for a final run, so I went in and collected 7 stamina from my overflow, did the run, then noticed that I used 7 ether batteries instead of pulling 7 from the overflow. Then I had to grind out another 400~ stamina....
All of that and still not a single usable disk.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
This game has some extreme RNJesus BS when it comes to discs.
There's RNJesus for:
1) Routine Cleanup
2) Music Store
3) Regular crafting
4) Crafting with special tunin Items
5) Leveling up to lvl 15 to get random +s to whatever stat RNJesus wants
So literally every single aspect is plagued with RNjesus. It's bad enough that special tuning items are extremely rare, but even with them you can get 99% of the time completely BS discs with trash sub stats just like during random crafting and then you have to wait a month to get them again. It's SO BAD!
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Pejo
Gold Member
Hell I'm not even talking about that, I just mean getting a disk 5 or 6 with the correct main stat. I ran out of the materials to customize them at the music shop. I never have it in me to farm for perfect substats.This game has some extreme RNJesus BS when it comes to discs.
There's RNJesus for:
1) Routine Cleanup
2) Music Store
3) Regular crafting
4) Crafting with special tunin Items
5) Leveling up to lvl 15 to get random +s to whatever stat RNJesus wants
So literally every single aspect is plagued with RNjesus. It's bad enough that special tuning items are extremely rare, but even with them you can get 99% of the time completely BS discs with trash sub stats just like during random crafting and then you have to wait a month to get them again. It's SO BAD!
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Oh, without the limited tuning thing, forget it, man, the 5th one especially - there's so many main stats it can have that it'll take forever until you get the one you need and even then, substats will be BS.
Well, Crit Rate/DMG characters basically require this.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Looks like HoYo is going all in with patch 1.4 in Japan as they're even doing a TVCM (TV advert):
Wonko_C
Member
Pejo
Gold Member
That's crazy. I watched a lore video that said that she was likely the person controlling that bangboo with the backwards red hat in the last event, and it looks like he was dead on. She looks really good, her investigator partner too. People were expecting the robo idols next, but it looks like we'll get these guys (then hopefully Obol squad).
I feel like more than characters, the game needs to find some content to get players hyped though. Everything has felt way too samey for a while now.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Might be her and padme, since both are musicians that have been drip fed revealed in-game itself.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Honestly? I need to see her playstyle first of course but... I just can't see myself pulling for her after Miyabi. I mean, I'm sorry MHY, but she just doesn't look all that interesting visually and from the design standpoint at all.
The Chairman
Member
Zero hype for the retarded fox so all my resources will go to Astra Yao when she releases
Icymanipulator
Member
Who’s the retarded fox?Zero hype for the retarded fox so all my resources will go to Astra Yao when she releases
Pejo
Gold Member
Spyxos
Member
Yeah visually very boring. Looks like a typical anime character. That you've seen a thousand times before. She would fit in better with Genshin or something like that. The previous ZZZ designs were stronger.
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Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Or in their own HSR and Genshin even.
If I were to guess based on the last few months of updates, I think she'll be Ether Anomaly agent cuz they haven't touched Ether since 1.1 and Zhu's launch + Ether is severely underused DMG type in the game and you literally can't build good Ether team and must always rely on a second DMG type in endgame for ~5 months already. Still, even if I'm right about this, I can't tell you what must happen to make me pull for her, I mean, even if they'd gave free 16000 polys I'd still saved them for someone else and much better
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
I wonder why this is not uploaded on the official ZZZ YouTube account yet. There's just this reuploaded low quality version of the footage they've shown during TGA.
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Pejo
Gold Member
Today is the anniversary of a massacre in Chinese history apparently, so the whole country goes dark on social media to observe. That's what I read anyways.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
I'll have ~30 before 1.4 launch, so hopefully it'll be enough in case everything will go to shit with the rest of the 22+K polys in 1.4. Last time I got Nagi within just 3 pulls after losing 50/50.
Doom85
Member
What ended up winning Best Mobile? Because Honkai Star Rail winning the prior year and giving away Dr. Ratio for free was absolute peak.
Spyxos
Member
I think Balantro.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Is anyone else playing on base PS5? For some reason most if not all the encounters I've played in Ligther's story / event run like ass. It drops frames a lot in practically every fight that gets a bit intense (I'm talking about the regular 3rd person combat encounters and not those beat 'em up side-scrolling missions with Lighter which were dope btw).
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Reizo Ryuu
Member
I tested genshin on my xsx and it ran quite a bit worse than on pc, zzz has higher requirements so I don't think mihoyo's engine is that optimised for console hardware.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Yeah, the optimization is pretty meh, especially in Lumina Square were I suspect there's a CPU bottleneck due to the higher number of NPCs.
But in general it runs fine during battles (mostly 60 fps), however during all these Lighter missions there were consistent fps drops (worse than in past missions). Kinda annoying, since I wanted to play ZZZ on PS5 and not on PC.
Hopefully HoYo will do some more optimizations in future patches.
Aenima
Member
On my base PS5 all fights run smooth, if there was drops during the Lighetr missions, i didnt noticed them. Only walking in Lumina Square i notice lower frame rate. Also most of the times at the start of a new battle when the camera is showing our character it usually stutters, but when the battle starts i never noticed frame drops.
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Pejo
Gold Member
Looks like we hit the milestone to get the materials to level (presumably) Harumasa to 50 instantly due to the 1.4 pre-registration event.
Doubt we'll make the 30 million one for the free profile card, but who cares. I'll be using most of these mats on Miyabi myself, god willing.
Doubt we'll make the 30 million one for the free profile card, but who cares. I'll be using most of these mats on Miyabi myself, god willing.
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Spyxos
Member
I wonder if it's even worth leveling him when I already have yanagi. But it's strange that we've barely made 20 million. Hoyo was hoping for far more from the free character, otherwise they wouldn't have set a target of 30 million.Looks like we hit the milestone to get the materials to level (presumably) Harumasa to 50 instantly due to the 1.4 pre-registration event.
Doubt we'll make the 30 million one for the free profile card, but who cares. I'll be using most of these mats on Miyabi myself, god willing.
Pejo
Gold Member
Should have given out a female if they wanted better numbers I guess. I feel like the anime-gacha fanbase is spread pretty thin these days. Mindshare and time is finite after all. I'm surprised Star Rail still puts up the numbers it does. To me it's the least unique/captivating out of HoYo's big 3, but it consistently does big numbers.
This event also wasn't advertised very well outside of HoYolab/In-game notices and is asking you to pre-register for a game you already play/played, which is a weird thing to do.
Spyxos
Member
I think because it runs on every phone and yet has the highest budget in its genre. And I also found the pre-registration strange, I wasn't really planning to do it.
Doom85
Member
Did Genshin redeem itself after the Dr. Ratio controversy? Where after the generous free Dr. Ratio 5 star given to Star Rail players after the TGA win, many players started realizing how stingy Genshin is in comparison and tons of content creators were calling them out. It also didn’t help this was right as Penacony was about to start in Star Rail which virtually everyone was pumped for, so Genshin was in a real bad light in comparison at that time.
Regardless, most people I know consider Star Rail to generally have a more interesting narrative and world compared to Genshin. And so many of the features between both games seem to generally be better received in Star Rail. Like, when they recently announced the MC would finally be getting a personal room on the Star Rail Express, most reactions were basically:
“Guys, don’t get hyped, we’ve seen this ‘announcement’ before, it’s just going to be the fucking Genshin tea set shit again…….wait, it’s a legit full-sized room?! A massive room we can customize?! Holy shit!”
Star Rail also added items that let you pick your relic’s sub stats far more quickly than Genshin did. I think there’s a bunch of other features players have said Star Rail got to faster, or Genshin hasn’t even implemented yet, but I can’t recall them all at the moment.
Also, Star Rail doesn’t have Paimon, so that’s also a huge improvement for me personally.
Sorry, don’t meant to bash Genshin, I just personally got bored with it pretty quickly, whereas Star Rail has kept me invested most of the time, and the recent tease for 3.0 is BIG.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Yeah, all these resources will be given to Miyabi. Harumasa will be lvl 1 forever, unless they'll force us to use two Electric teams in SD at lvl 70 or somethin'.