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[Spyxos]

Looks like version 2.2 livestream is scheduled for this Friday. Wonder which banners they'll rerun.

Four weeks is too long for one character. I want to pull again. And I am absolutely not addicted to pulling.

 

[TheTurboFD]

You need to level your engines to 60 it is free damage that you are missing out. Especially the Miyabi one. Did you level your skills? Your Yanagi is running mono electric disks not sure how good they are in a disorder team.

Ooo didn't even notice they were at 50, I guess it's time to farm Chaos Jazz discs.

Thanks!

Well swapped miyabi from dead butcher and I hit 3 stars each now

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Zenless Zone Zero Version 2.2 "Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night" Special Program will air on August 22 at 19:30 (UTC+8).

Seed and Orphie & Magus will join Mr. Z as special guests to bring you a preview of Version 2.2 content.

In addition to revealing the combat abilities of both Agents, the story between Obol Squad and the Exaltists will be unveiled during the program, along with more new version content.

Edit:

Oh, it looks like Thick already posted this, eh, well, I guess there's I bit more info about what they'll be showing at least

Four weeks is too long for one character.

Completely agree and especially if this one character is completely skippable and not on Miyabi level.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Four weeks is too long for one character. I want to pull again. And I am absolutely not addicted to pulling.

You pulling for Seed or Orphie? Or maybe both?

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Completely agree and especially if this one character is completely skippable

Didn't you say a similar thing about Vivian, lol? Now you're missing a key piece for your anomaly teams. XD

and not on Miyabi level.

Alice is not Miyabi level, but she is very strong still and she even pairs great with Miyabi herself.

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Looks like ZZZ just won best visual achievement at the 2025 Mobile Game Awards.

 

[Spyxos]

You pulling for Seed or Orphie? Or maybe both?

It'll be Orphie. Sanby needs to be revived.I have too many Electro characters, and even if Seed is better, she wouldn't be worth the pulls for me.

And I want to finally put together a fire team. Orphie, Burnice, and Jufufu. Hopefully Orphie will also pass as Main dps.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Didn't you say a similar thing about Vivian, lol? Now you're missing a key piece for your anomaly teams. XD

Correction - I said that about the whole 1.7 patch

I don't think I'm missing anything tbh, ma dude, since I can clear stuff just fine without Viv 2 months later. I can also easily skip DA if it'll come to that np and won't lose anything - same goes for events with just 300 polys, 5 boopons, and walls of text I need to skip through to get it done with - this new and last one of this patch will be the first I start with.

Alice is not Miyabi level, but she is very strong still and she even pairs great with Miyabi herself.

Good for her, but I'm not gonna pull cuz I've more crucial component for Anomaly teams now and it's Yuzuha, whereas Alice is nothing more than a luxury item, not something I must own for any reason on my account + she really needs her sig to be above Jane and Piper lvl and I don't feel like wasting my polys on her sig. Alice is just a bit different version of Jane and Nekomiya, while Seed looks much more unique and different gameplay-wise than any character in the whole game, so that's where I'll be using all my saved pulls and polys

It'll be Orphie. Sanby needs to be revived.

Not sure how you'll be saving SAnby with Orphie. Orphie won't do anything for SAnby cuz it is Seed who enables a team with two ATK characters.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Correction - I said that about the whole 1.7 patch

I don't think I'm missing anything tbh, ma dude, since I can clear stuff just fine without Viv 2 months later. I can also easily skip DA if it'll come to that np and won't lose anything - same goes for events with just 300 polys, 5 boopons, and walls of text I need to skip through to get it done with - this new and last one of this patch will be the first I start with.


Good for her, but I'm not gonna pull cuz I've more crucial component for Anomaly teams now and it's Yuzuha, whereas Alice is nothing more than a luxury item, not something I must own for any reason on my account + she really needs her sig to be above Jane and Piper lvl and I don't feel like wasting my polys on her sig. Alice is just a bit different version of Jane and Nekomiya, while Seed looks much more unique and different gameplay-wise than any character in the whole game, so that's where I'll be using all my saved pulls and polys

Oh, okay. I saw that you can easily clear with 3 stars all DA bosses so you really don't need all these anomaly agents so makes sense to skip them I guess.

 

[Spyxos]

Not sure how you'll be saving SAnby with Orphie. Orphie won't do anything for SAnby cuz it is Seed who enables a team with two ATK characters.

Really? I heard that Orphie has synergies with Sanby.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Really? I heard that Orphie has synergies with Sanby.

Last time I checked (~1,5 weeks ago ), leaks were claiming that Seed is the first character who enables double DPS team and she works great for SAnby + Trigger, but Seed needs Orphie cuz of her buffs and she's the only DPS who needs a lot of ER for her kit to work. Maybe something has changed since then? 2.2 beta phase won't end anytime soon...

Btw, Eve still works great in DA and SD and I've np clearing content with her, but I also have her sig so maybe it'll be different for those who don't.

 

[Pejo]

Last time I checked (~1,5 weeks ago ), leaks were claiming that Seed is the first character who enables double DPS team and she works great for SAnby + Trigger, but Seed needs Orphie cuz of her buffs and she's the only DPS who needs a lot of ER for her kit to work. Maybe something has changed since then? 2.2 beta phase won't end anytime soon...

Oh that's cool. I was debating on getting Seed or not, but if she really makes the SAnby/Trigger team feel better, i'm 100% in.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Btw, I always forgetting that I've M1 SAnby, so her M1 does nothing for me and she's still very bad as a DPS with great stats and discs. Idk how they managed to fuck her up, but they did. Like, maybe she's better with her sig, idk, but without it she's trash for sure.

Here's Seed and Orphie synergy and kit info for those interested:







Seed basically requires a second DPS to work, but Orphie doesn't and it's Stun or Support instead.

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A few videos:

Pejo



She even works great with Harumasa:

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I was looking on that ZZZ pull tracker and was a bit surprised to see how many pulls I've already spent since the 2.0 patch:

• 417 on the limited character banner
• 137 on the limited w-engine banner

So about 550 pulls for 5 new agents (Yixuan, Astra, Ju Fufu, Yuzuha, and Alice) and 2 w-engines (Yixuan and Alice), which is not that bad, but I think I'm gonna go on a gacha ban for the entire next patch.

Edit: Also, here's a random Miyabi art (nsfwish).

Spoiler: nsfwish

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

For anyone interested, here's a recent interview by Denfaminicogamer with one of the ZZZ producers discussing how they go about designing the characters in the game.

『ゼンレスゾーンゼロ』のキャラって、どう作られてるの？プロデューサー：李振宇に聞く、みんなでとにかく粘って粘って粘りまくる『ゼンゼロ』流の「心を掴むキャラクター」の作り方

なぜ粘って調整し続けるのか。どうしてキャラのモデルを作り直すのか。それは、「直さない理由がない」から。

news.denfaminicogamer.jp

It's pretty lengthy, so if you don't want to read it all, here's an excerpt from Automaton with the interesting bits:

In a recent interview with Denfaminicogamer, Zenless Zone Zero's producer Zhenyu Li revealed more about the process behind creating characters for the game, citing the development team's decentralized approach to problem-solving and focus on communication as essential to making interesting character designs.

While some may expect that the characters are first created by scenario writers and then handled by the design team – in the case of Zenless Zone Zero, this process does not always follow such a one-dimensional "factory-line-like" flow, Li suggests. "We don't have a single set flow in which we create characters," he says. "If we end up settling on just one fixed workflow, I believe that would only limit our ability to create interesting characters."

As an example, they have recently been experimenting with the character design process by having the animation team create concepts for new characters. As the animation team's main task is bringing already existing designs to life by adding motion, having them think of interesting new movements and action first, and then building the characters around those ideas could possibly lead to some unique character designs. Aside from the scenario and art team, members of various other departments are also encouraged to participate in the design process and share their ideas and opinions.

While it hasn't always been like this in the studio, Li explains that they managed to reach this stage as a team thanks to constant work and improvement, and most importantly – communication. "To me, the process of character design is the process of communication," he explains. People who work in different departments have vastly different skillsets and approaches to problem solving, which opens the door for more innovative character designs – but only if there is good communication between the members of different teams. "Our goal as a team is to create interesting characters. And to do that, it is essential for us to go beyond the concept of separate 'departments' and have everyone work together as a same team."

 

[Spyxos]

Btw, I always forgetting that I've M1 SAnby, so her M1 does nothing for me and she's still very bad as a DPS with great stats and discs. Idk how they managed to fuck her up, but they did. Like, maybe she's better with her sig, idk, but without it she's trash for sure.

Here's Seed and Orphie synergy and kit info for those interested:







Seed basically requires a second DPS to work, but Orphie doesn't and it's Stun or Support instead.

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A few videos:

Pejo



She even works great with Harumasa:

Fuck looks like i am pulling another electric character. I'll be able to stack them soon. Or use them as door stoppers.

I was looking on that ZZZ pull tracker and was a bit surprised to see how many pulls I've already spent since the 2.0 patch:

• 417 on the limited character banner
• 137 on the limited w-engine banner

So about 550 pulls for 5 new agents (Yixuan, Astra, Ju Fufu, Yuzuha, and Alice) and 2 w-engines (Yixuan and Alice), which is not that bad, but I think I'm gonna go on a gacha ban for the entire next patch.

Edit: Also, here's a random Miyabi art (nsfwish).

Spoiler: nsfwish

Good yield, especially since there are also two enginges included. Aren't you f2p?

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Good yield, especially since there are also two enginges included. Aren't you f2p?

Thanks! I just buy the monthly sub and BP. But during this period, I also picked up a 10 limited pulls pack for $14.99, and also the first 3 monochrome packs for the top-up bonus ($0.99, $4.99, and $14.99). That ~4k of monochrome was spent on the new skins (Yixuan, Yuzuha, and Alice). I guess you could categorize me as a very light spender (lower spend than in HSR or even WuWa during the same timeframe).

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Here's my quick run of the new Deadly Assault. Both Miasmic Priest and Butcher were pretty sloppy attempts with quite a few mistakes, but that should do it for now. I might try to get some better clear scores later this weekend, but I'm pretty busy with the Amphoreus story arc in HSR at the moment.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

New 300x polychrome code - https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption?code=OBOLSQUAD

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Banners for version 2.2:

• 1st half: Seed & Trigger
• 2nd half: Orphie & Evelyn

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New boss art

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SAnby buff incoming

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Version 2.2 official trailer

 

[Agent_4Seven]

So the leaks were right,Trigger will have a rerun. Uh... which means that I somehow need to get both her and Seed's sig during the first phase. I'm totally fucked, ma bros.

 

[Pejo]

SAnby buff incoming

I didn't play her much in LV, but I hope her buff(s) are good. This is probably the last chance for her to be strong.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

looks like they are putting trust events back on the quick map interface.

 

[Spyxos]

Here's my quick run of the new Deadly Assault. Both Miasmic Priest and Butcher were pretty sloppy attempts with quite a few mistakes, but that should do it for now. I might try to get some better clear scores later this weekend, but I'm pretty busy with the Amphoreus story arc in HSR at the moment.

Here is my first attempt. I forgot midfight how to use Sanby so pretty sure i can get a better score there. And her dodge feels so off still to this day.

But it's also interesting that there isn't a physically weak boss , even though Alice is still in the banner. But there is an electro-weak boss. Which is also rare, even though there are so many electro characters. It increasingly appears as though this is being done without any plan.

So the leaks were right,Trigger will have a rerun. Uh... which means that I somehow need to get both her and Seed's sig during the first phase. I'm totally fucked, ma bros.

Thats your new superpower

 

[Agent_4Seven]

So, DA got a refresh, I haven't even started it and... I'm like looking at it now and can't stop question myself - "Why are you still wasting your time and playing this crap end game mode, Agent? Why? For what?"

Fuck it, today marks the day I'll completely stop playing it. I had enough.

Life is too short, don't stress everyday
Leave your worries behind go out and play
Life is too short, grasp it in your hand
A natural miracle, have fun while you can

Life is too short, as precious as gold
It's full of surprises, so I am told
Life is too short take it from me
Have as much fun as you wish, just wait and see

Life is too short, people seem to forget
That life is a gift and its free yes that's it
Life is too short, use your own eyes
Open yourself and enjoy your own life

 

[Spyxos]

So, DA got a refresh, I haven't even started it and... I'm like looking at it now and can't stop question myself - "Why are you still wasting your time and playing this crap end game mode, Agent? Why? For what?"

Fuck it, today marks the day I'll completely stop playing it. I had enough.

Life is too short, don't stress everyday
Leave your worries behind go out and play
Life is too short, grasp it in your hand
A natural miracle, have fun while you can

Life is too short, as precious as gold
It's full of surprises, so I am told
Life is too short take it from me
Have as much fun as you wish, just wait and see

Life is too short, people seem to forget
That life is a gift and its free yes that's it
Life is too short, use your own eyes
Open yourself and enjoy your own life

It's not that bad. I couldn't manage it for a long time (9 Stars), but now I can. Give yourself some time.

 

[Pejo]

So, DA got a refresh, I haven't even started it and... I'm like looking at it now and can't stop question myself - "Why are you still wasting your time and playing this crap end game mode, Agent? Why? For what?"

Fuck it, today marks the day I'll completely stop playing it. I had enough.

I haven't sweated over these bullshit timer endgame modes in like 5 versions. Just do what I can on a single run and call it a day. Life's been good that way.

Also, now that you've quit try-harding, you don't need to stress about getting characters' sig engines. Enjoy the 4* engine bliss.

 

[Icymanipulator]

I haven't sweated over these bullshit timer endgame modes in like 5 versions. Just do what I can on a single run and call it a day. Life's been good that way.

Also, now that you've quit try-harding, you don't need to stress about getting characters' sig engines. Enjoy the 4* engine bliss.

All these gacha games endgame modes I just do what I can and try to get as many gems as possible. But I don't spend hours on any of them. I give it like 2 maybe 3 tries and I'm out. I'm ok with missing like 100 currency in whatever game. It's best to think of these endgame modes as bonus currency imo.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

I don't mind the end game modes, I do mind how quickly they are overtuning them to drive people to pullpullpull; the large periods of time wasting invulnerabilities were already awful, the miasma shield nonsense is just terrible. Every update just seems to become less fun being pigeonholed into playing in specific ways, and losing TV mode means nearly all quirky variety is gone too, we've arrived at the stage where every update will just be the same content over and over with more daily chore timewasters like the temple and the end game stuff will just become more annoying as time goes on while the gacha will just be all female characters that work most effectively for the latest overtuned content.

I'm gonna take a break for a bit, until there's a character that's actually interesting again.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Probably an unpopular opinion in this OT, but I've been enjoying deadly assault quite a bit since patch 2.0. A big part of that is due to managing to fill in the roles I was missing for my teams with a few key pulls. I also like experimenting with various team comps to see what works best for different boss encounters and to improve my rotations and push for higher scores.

That said, it's perfectly fine if you just want to do a single run for the polys and then dip out until the next reset, or even skip DA altogether.

 

[Spyxos]

Probably an unpopular opinion in this OT, but I've been enjoying deadly assault quite a bit since patch 2.0. A big part of that is due to managing to fill in the roles I was missing for my teams with a few key pulls. I also like experimenting with various team comps to see what works best for different boss encounters and to improve my rotations and push for higher scores.

That said, it's perfectly fine if you just want to do a single run for the polys and then dip out until the next reset, or even skip DA altogether.

I must also say that I am now enjoying it. That was not the case at the beginning. Shiyu, on the other hand, is rather annoying.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I must also say that I am now enjoying it. That was not the case at the beginning. Shiyu, on the other hand, is rather annoying.

Yeah, I agree on both counts. Personally, Deadly Assault feels way more fun right now than Shiyu Defense.

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Also, I just saw this cool mouse mat with Miyabi on the Razer store, but it looks like it's currently out of stock.

 

[Spyxos]

So, no character buff again. That's it then. Ellen was probably the only character we were going to get, which is a shame. I was hoping for Jane or Ceaser rework.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

So, no character buff again.

silver anby.

 

[Spyxos]

silver anby.

I need to see more first. But it was also clear that she would become stronger with more aftershock/Obol squad characters.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

I haven't sweated over these bullshit timer endgame modes in like 5 versions. Just do what I can on a single run and call it a day. Life's been good that way.

Also, now that you've quit try-harding, you don't need to stress about getting characters' sig engines. Enjoy the 4* engine bliss.

It's not that bad. I couldn't manage it for a long time (9 Stars), but now I can. Give yourself some time.

It's not like I can't do DA, I just don't care anymore and much rather do something else until they release much better end game mode with great rewards.

As for sigs, there's still SD and LV + I already missing quite a few sigs and cuz of this Trigger for example losing a lot of her potential, so I'll pull for some but not going to do that for every single character.

I must also say that I am now enjoying it. That was not the case at the beginning. Shiyu, on the other hand, is rather annoying.

What I don't like about SD is that you've multiple waves of cannon fodder you have to waste your time on as well as Elites. They should just get rid of this crap, leave only bosses and bring back timer free node where you have to use your skill instead of raw power to deal with timers.

I was hoping for Jane or Ceaser rework.

Jane already has an LV kit, they'll carry it over to regular gameplay at some point. Iirc, they said it'll take time for other characters too. Idk what can you do about Caesar though, she's perfect for what she does best and better than anyone else in the game. I'd love for the Zhu Yuan update to make her less reliant on bullets and have more moves and shit, I don't agree she's bad as is cuz she's one of the most mobile characters in the game who uses both her gun and melee combat. If they'll also add aftershocks to her kit and let her restore her bullets through that and make them more powerful, it'll be fantastic!