True Detective - McConaughey/Harrelson crime series - S2 starts June 21st

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Ok I feel dumb asking but what's this kids in the woods stuff? Was it only mentioned in the first episode? I can't seem to remember it at all. Maybe I'll watch episode 1 again this weekend.
 
I'm not really caring about the results of the investigation. It seems pretty likely that the reverend Tuttle guy could be behind things. The investigation is too much of a point A to point B connect the dots process at the moment.

However, I'm really enjoying the character interplay and development though. Pretty amazing how well they hashed out the characters of the 2 detectives in only 3 episodes.

I guess it's sort of like enjoying a book for the characters, dialogue and writing style, but not the plot. Still, it's only been 3 episodes so I'm hoping the investigation plot kicks into another level of complexity.
 
effzee said:
Ok I feel dumb asking but what's this kids in the woods stuff? Was it only mentioned in the first episode? I can't seem to remember it at all. Maybe I'll watch episode 1 again this weekend.
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Thus far (3 episodes have aired), that part of the investigation hasn't been discussed by either Cohle or Hart. They've mentioned it to the investigating detectives Gilbough and Papania, but both wanted Cohle and Hart to discuss how the investigation proceeded, not when it ended.
 
I finally caught up and watched all the episodes.

This show is incredible.

The scene in episode 2
when they get out of the car outside that burnt down/abandoned church. When the Starling murmuration happens and they create the same sign that was on the bodies. I just went "WOW!"
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Such a beautiful shot.
 
EverythingShiny said:
That Daily Beast interview is great. This part has been quoted already but it really stood out to me:


I rewatched first episode for the third time today. Marty mentions "the kids in the woods." So far, we only know of two children - Marie Fontenot, who is missing, and the girl who escaped the "green eared spaghetti monster" in the woods. Rust then says, at the end of the episode, something along the lines of "I guess you want to hear the hero's shot, huh? The place we carried the kids out?" McConaughey is kinda mumbling here so I can't really understand what he said, but that's the gist of it.

My first impression, going on what Rust says, is that the children in the woods are still alive, hence the use of the phrase hero's shot. If this is the case, and Marie Fontenot is one of them, she's been alive in the woods all that time. Unless Rust is using the phrase ironically and the kids are dead. Which, well, shit.

We haven't heard of any additional missing children, have we? I can't recall if anything was mentioned about it in episode 2 or 3.

I'm really curious to see how this plays out. If the person abducting the kids and the murderer are one in the same (evidenced by the devil traps found at both crime scenes), I wonder what the motivation is for the two very different crimes, especially if the children are being kept alive. I have some theories but I won't go into them right now.
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they passed a billboard at one point saying "who killed me" with the picture of a 14 year old girl
 
effzee said:
Ok I feel dumb asking but what's this kids in the woods stuff? Was it only mentioned in the first episode? I can't seem to remember it at all. Maybe I'll watch episode 1 again this weekend.
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Yeah, episode 1's the only place where it got mentioned. Apparently they took the time to sit one of the kids down with a sketch artist, but thought it was too silly to warrant further investigation. It will likely come up again somewhere I'm sure.
 
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holy shit! (cant believe im just figuring this out) it's Steve the drunk from Deadwood! that guy was amazing in Deadwood (greatest show of all time).

loving True Detective btw. cannot wait fot the next eps to come out.
 
Caught up, really liking this. Beautifully shot and so damn eloquent - the writing has this thoughtful, brooding intensity to it, and I love the not-quite banter between the two detectives, how they probe each other, and how this tension between them rises in parallel with a growing awareness of the setting, the rot and murk of it all. I need to check out Pizzolatto's novel soon.
 
Dresden said:
Caught up, really liking this. Beautifully shot and so damn eloquent - the writing has this thoughtful, brooding intensity to it, and I love the not-quite banter between the two detectives, how they probe each other, and how this tension between them rises in parallel with a growing awareness of the setting, the rot and murk of it all. I need to check out Pizzolatto's novel soon.
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Yeah, high time I start reading everything that man wrote. The dialogue really is incredible.
 
Finally caught up. Excellent show, glad to be part of this community to discuss every little detail in the coming weeks.

Watched episode 2 in the library at school. Had to avoid that scene.
 
To pass some time I recommend watching "Getting On" on HBO. A very good comedy.
72% on Metacritic.
Slate's review:
Getting On is the sort of show that makes me thankful premium cable exists. No network would even fund a pilot for a deadpan comedy about middle-aged women who care for the elderly and dying, much less air it. It’s almost as impossible to believe, without seeing it, that such a show could be both very funny and occasionally uplifting without ever resorting to cheap sentimentality. But it is. Go watch, and laugh at some senior citizens and the decent people who care for them, and see for yourself.
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http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/television/2013/11/hbo_s_new_comedy_starring_laurie_metcalf_getting_on_reviewed.html

It hooked me in the first ten minutes of the first episode.
 
This show is really growing on me. That ending of episode 3, damn

Rust is such a refreshing character. A bit like Dexter, but more philosophical. It's a very nice showcase of personalities with Rust and Marty. One living in denial while the other doesn't bullshit anything or anyone.
 
Thank God finally a new episode this weekend. this show is the type of good that you get anxious just realizing it's only eight episodes long and that even the characters will be done after this season. It's just so good, I hope this Nic Pizzolatto guy can at least return to help writing the next season, even if it's just partial help. I need them in my life
 
Amir0x said:
Thank God finally a new episode this weekend. this show is the type of good that you get anxious just realizing it's only eight episodes long and that even the characters will be done after this season. It's just so good, I hope this Nic Pizzolatto guy can at least return to help writing the next season, even if it's just partial help. I need them in my life
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Errrrr. Nic is the creator and showrunner of the series. He's not going to be "helping", he's already planning next season pending HBO's approval of the content, he'll probably be writing it all. It's his show, he's not going anywhere. This season's director is the one who's not coming back, because one director shooting an entire 8 hour season solo was insane and he has other work lined up. :)
 
I just re-watched episode one again with the whole "if someone watches the first episode and really listens, it tells you 85 percent of the story of the first six episodes" bit in mind and the only logical thing I can think of is Rust is the murderer. The final two episodes may redeem him or something but all I can think is that he's the 2012 detective's prime suspect.

We probably already went over this earlier in the thread but I really got some strong feelings in my gut at several points in the hour. I'm calling it now.
 
just got my girlfriend addicted to this. she watches shows like downton abbey, gossip girl and one tree hill, so i'm surprised she really liked it. she loves rust's character.

at this point i agree with rust setting this up, not necessarily being the murderer, but doing this to take down a cartel boss he knows from his days in texas
 
Mogwai said:
This show is really growing on me. That ending of episode 3, damn

Rust is such a refreshing character. A bit like Dexter, but more philosophical. It's a very nice showcase of personalities with Rust and Marty. One living in denial while the other doesn't bullshit anything or anyone.
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I think Rust is in denial as well, he's constructed this shell of pessimism around himself and that conversation in the preacher's tent with Marty felt indicative of this. His bitter cynicism is as much of a coping mechanism as the preacher's sermon is for the people within. I see the two men as reflections of each other rather than one being the other's measure.
 
Just watched all 3 episodes today. Man, this show is incredible. There's so much going on. It's really impressive just how great Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson are in this. I used to think that McConaughey in particular was a terrible actor, so I guess it just goes to show that you can never write a guy off. He's really reaching a level few guys ever get to. His character is so complex and he's nailing it.
 
Dusty said:
Just watched all 3 episodes today. Man, this show is incredible. There's so much going on. It's really impressive just how great Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson are in this. I used to think that McConaughey in particular was a terrible actor, so I guess it just goes to show that you can never write a guy off. He's really reaching a level few guys ever get to. His character is so complex and he's nailing it.
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He's essentially done the "one for money, one for me" thing, but doing all the ones for money up front, allowing him creative freedom (as he knows his looks/marketability were going to fade in time) to just do what he wants.
 
Dresden said:
I think Rust is in denial as well, he's constructed this shell of pessimism around himself and that conversation in the preacher's tent with Marty felt indicative of this. His bitter cynicism is as much of a coping mechanism as the preacher's sermon is for the people within. I see the two men as reflections of each other rather than one being the other's measure.
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This is a great post. I've felt this way but never would have characterized it as each character is a reflection of the other. Thats great.
 
I've started reading pizzolatto's book galveston.. its pretty good so far

rust carving the person out of the beer can was taken from the book
 
Watched all three tonight and will now look forward to the next five intently.

Hope it doesn't end with Rust as the killer as that'll be the kind of well-worn ground I feel like the show has thus far managed to avoid.
 
aFIGurANT said:
I just re-watched episode one again with the whole "if someone watches the first episode and really listens, it tells you 85 percent of the story of the first six episodes" bit in mind and the only logical thing I can think of is Rust is the murderer. The final two episodes may redeem him or something but all I can think is that he's the 2012 detective's prime suspect.

We probably already went over this earlier in the thread but I really got some strong feelings in my gut at several points in the hour. I'm calling it now.
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That sounds absurd. Additionally, the show has very little to do with the "mystery" or the case. Solving the murder has followed a linear reveal, like the Hardy Boys, I doubt there will be any twist on what we know so far. The show is more about tiny, absurd moments that these two find themselves in.

Also, amazing music throughout. No other HBO show has devoted itself so much to cinema and aesthetics. It's not about narrative or plot. I think some of the more wayward and meandering parts of Sopranos and David Milch have touched on what this show taps into.

Edit: Even once we know the answer this show will still be great to watch again. It's spoiler proof.
 
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