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[Darkmakaimura]

I watched the first and second episodes of Andor season 1 and I thought it was really dull but in all fairness, it was a couple weeks after my father passed away so I was going through a really hard time.

I don't know if I can get into this though. It doesn't feel like Star Wars still just from what little I've seen.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Hard disagree, while the ending was predictable, it was closure to one of the plots in S1.

I don't think it was all that predictable. I think it was predictable that SOMEONE was going to die, but there was sufficient foreshadowing that it could have been Vel, i.e. when Mon tells Luthen that she hasn't heard from Vel in a while and wants to talk to her and how she cares about her cousin (something that Luthen I guess can't comprehend because he is so far gone). This definitely sets up for Vel to catch a stray blaster.

I understand why the guy didn't follow orders and why he brought a blaster. He's nervous. It's his first time doing this and he's simply scared. What I thought was poorly done was his encounter with the random guy from the town hall earlier. There wasn't much reason for him to pull his blaster in the first place. But I'll digress there.

Ultimately, my point was that it wasn't super predictable which one of them was going to die, they had foreshadowed enough that it could go either way or that both of them could have died.

I don't get why people have such a hard time with women having agency, plus Syril was the lead here too. This isn't a woke show.

It's a new motif that you can pick out pretty easily if you know how to spot the trends. Anyone referring to characters as "girlbosses" probably isn't giving serious critique of a project. Anyone complaining about one lesbian relationship, but not complaining about Bix-Cassian, Syril-Dedra is telling you a lot about themselves.

I forgot the lesbian couple were even characters lol that whole thing fell flat for me. Any generic rebel could have been used there.

I think that you've misunderstood the rebellion so far. There aren't really any generic rebels at this point. Cassian, Cinta, and Vel are probably Luthen's three best agents, to the point where he is trying to build out Bix as an additional agent. Luthen's circle is small and while he has other agents, none have shown the success these three have. Luthen sends Cassian there first and he balks, but because he wants it so much he also sends Vel who won't do it without Cinta being there.

It wasn't supposed to be an inherently dangerous mission, which is something that Cassian confirmed but also confirmed by Vel and Cinta telling them they're prohibited from having blasters.

Not sure how you could forget that they're even characters, but it is what it is.

But most importantly is that we have to deal with the repercussions for Vel's character and how she'll likely be hardened by this and probably turn more into a character like Cinta.

But we also are left to wonder how that could easily have been Cassian who was killed and what the repercussions of that could have looked like. If Cinta had been in Rogue One instead of Cassian, there's no chance she isn't killing Jyn's father as ordered and there's no chance at that connection with Jyn that lead them to go to Scarif.

Luthen has a lot of issues, but it's also interesting how he used Cinta/Vel and Cassian/Bix. Cinta and Vel confirm to the audience that Luthen probably prefers them separate as more valuable pawns and ultimately he would prefer Cassian and Bix separate but Bix isn't there. He would roast Bix in a heartbeat if it meant a more focused Cassian. So I doubt he'll shed any tears over Cinta dying because he knows he'll get a better and more dedicated version of Vel now.

The dinner party was a lot of fun. Krennic's acting is goated.

Agreed. Peak cinema.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

I don't know if I can get into this though. It doesn't feel like Star Wars still just from what little I've seen.

I'd say don't force yourself to "get into it" but I would say this is the best Star Wars has ever been and the most Star Wars has ever Star Warsed.

I wonder if you guys have ever watched (and what you thought of)

Spy Game
The Americans
Munich
Three Days of the Condor
Argo
Zero Dark Thirty
Homeland
Edit: Also Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy

If it isn't your genre, it isn't your genre. And despite me saying that it is the most star wars thing ever, that's not without serious caveats. I don't see Star Wars as defined by the Original Trilogy or by the Skywalker Saga. There are tons of books, games, shows, e.t.c. some good and some bad. I don't think we've ever seen prestige tv touch Star Wars before and fill in the gaps where Star Wars has major holes. This series is obviously not about the Jedi who feature prominently in the Skywalker Saga and much of the rest of Star Wars, but I've never agreed with Star Wars as being dominated by the Jedi.

The whole Jedi element is super toned down in the original trilogy and gets blown up in the prequel trilogy making them essentially superheroes. I'd argue that THAT wasn't Star Wars.

I love Star Wars Dark Forces Jedi Knight, but the influence it probably had on Phantom Menance was probably too gamified and we've been living in that universe ever since. For the first time with Andor, I think we've taken a serious step back to a more grounded reality.

 

[ADiTAR]

I don't think it was all that predictable. I think it was predictable that SOMEONE was going to die

Yes. It was predictable that one of them will die, and that's a shame because I hate something this obvious.

Luthen did send Cassian/Bix on a mission together to kill that ISB agent.

I'm also hoping they are not gonna kill a small character in each arc now. I'm guessing Bix won't last long either or maybe they'll set her up to be Rey's mother.... ... ...

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Yes. It was predictable that one of them will die, and that's a shame because I hate something this obvious.

It was predictable, but the unpredictability in terms of what was going to happen exactly allowed its own tension to be created. Contrasted with the dinner party scene with Kleya and Lonni, that shit was just overall very tense.

Luthen did send Cassian/Bix on a mission together to kill that ISB agent.

Yeah, because he wants a strong Bix because he needs more agents, but how he treated Vel and Cinta... who knows how this is going to develop moving forward.

I'm also hoping they are not gonna kill a small character in each arc now. I'm guessing Bix won't last long either or maybe they'll set her up to be Rey's mother.... ... ...

I think that's absolutely what will happen (killing small characters in each arc). I didn't feel like they had to kill Brasso, but it made sense for the further deterioration of Bix (and the further hardening of Cassian). The killing of Cinta will similarly harden Vel.

We know that not all of these characters probably make it to Rogue One since they didn't feature prominently in the original trilogy (which shouldn't be considered definitive proof either way).

It's totally possible that these characters might show up again in Mandalorian, but one thing they're doing is showing us how big the universe is rather than how small. They wouldn't make Bix, Rey's mother, that's just JJ Abrams mystery box nonsense. The smartest thing Disney could do is just do a mea culpa and retcon the sequel trilogy.

 

[Inspector Q]

Really enjoyed these last three episodes. Probably the best world building since the Prequel Trilogy. You can actually tell the large budget that was used here...unlike in other shows where you don't know where the hell the money went, lol. The sets, costumes, props, etc...they are all top notch.

Only two scenes kind of irked me and they both happened to be in the last 10 minutes of Episode 6.

Spoiler: Episode 6 spoilers

I didn't like the way Vel was yelling at that kid. I get it, she is soooo upset at what happened and blames this young kid, but what she was saying and how long it went on made it kind of annoying more than anything. It was to the point where I expected one of the other Ghorman to just shoot her in the head with a blaster and roll her body out the transport. End the scene with a "Tell Luthen we are not impressed" as a call back to an earlier scene, lol.

The other problem I had was the final infiltration scene. It looks like it's something that unfortunately had to be rushed since this is the final season and they just can't fit everything they want to in here.

Besides those two things I pretty much enjoyed everything. Probably my favorite showing from Forest Whitaker's Saw Gerrera. He was chewing up the screen in the few scenes he was in and since everyone around him is expendable you don't know wtf is going to happen, lol.

Krennic and Mon Mothma verbally sparring back and forth while Kleya and Lonni did their thing was a great scene.

But yeah, this is miles ahead of the rest of the SW crap Disney has been shitting out.

 

[ADiTAR]

Really enjoyed these last three episodes. Probably the best world building since the Prequel Trilogy. You can actually tell the large budget that was used here...unlike in other shows where you don't know where the hell the money went, lol. The sets, costumes, props, etc...they are all top notch.

Yes, yes! forgot to mention how amazing the sets were. So much detail, looked lived in. Really like the first season (and unlike the first three ep where it didn't feel as genuine).

Only two scenes kind of irked me and they both happened to be in the last 10 minutes of Episode 6.

She was really upset with herself. She asked for her to be on the mission with her. So in someways it was her fault too.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Really enjoyed these last three episodes. Probably the best world building since the Prequel Trilogy. You can actually tell the large budget that was used here...unlike in other shows where you don't know where the hell the money went, lol. The sets, costumes, props, etc...they are all top notch.

Only two scenes kind of irked me and they both happened to be in the last 10 minutes of Episode 6.

Spoiler: Episode 6 spoilers

I didn't like the way Vel was yelling at that kid. I get it, she is soooo upset at what happened and blames this young kid, but what she was saying and how long it went on made it kind of annoying more than anything. It was to the point where I expected one of the other Ghorman to just shoot her in the head with a blaster and roll her body out the transport. End the scene with a "Tell Luthen we are not impressed" as a call back to an earlier scene, lol.

The other problem I had was the final infiltration scene. It looks like it's something that unfortunately had to be rushed since this is the final season and they just can't fit everything they want to in here.

Besides those two things I pretty much enjoyed everything. Probably my favorite showing from Forest Whitaker's Saw Gerrera. He was chewing up the screen in the few scenes he was in and since everyone around him is expendable you don't know wtf is going to happen, lol.

Krennic and Mon Mothma verbally sparring back and forth while Kleya and Lonni did their thing was a great scene.

But yeah, this is miles ahead of the rest of the SW crap Disney has been shitting out.

I think Vel had every right to yell at the kid. They couldn't have been more clear on them following orders and one of the orders that was again clear was that they weren't to have blasters. There is zero reason for Cinta to be dead. None. She died a senseless death because this kid couldn't listen and follow orders. No one is going to shoot her because (one they shouldn't have blasters) and why would they? Anyone else would agree with her. He's crying because he knows everything she is saying is right. For someone as committed to the cause and as decorated as Cinta to die because of this clown is wild.

Would love to see how you felt it was rushed. Like how exactly? It was a low security building because they were just setting it up for Gorst. They got that information from Lonni early and it bookended the initial scene in episode 4. So yes, very interested in what felt rushed about it. Can you expand?

 

[Inspector Q]

Yes, yes! forgot to mention how amazing the sets were. So much detail, looked lived in. Really like the first season (and unlike the first three ep where it didn't feel as genuine).


She was really upset with herself. She asked for her to be on the mission with her. So in someways it was her fault too.

Yeah, I get it, but I just started to get annoyed with how long she was droning on and what exactly she was saying. Like I said, I think I would have laughed at that point if someone else just blasted her in the head and rolled her carcass out the transport. I guess I just haven't really bonded with the Cinta or Vel characters for one reason or another.

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

After how awesome season 1 was, they have ALOT to do in these last 6 episodes to make it even close.

Seems like they can't help themselves but to screw every good thing up that they start. Definitely makes me leery about what type of garbage they're going to put together for Ahsoka season 2 also.

 

[Inspector Q]

I think Vel had every right to yell at the kid. They couldn't have been more clear on them following orders and one of the orders that was again clear was that they weren't to have blasters. There is zero reason for Cinta to be dead. None. She died a senseless death because this kid couldn't listen and follow orders. No one is going to shoot her because (one they shouldn't have blasters) and why would they? Anyone else would agree with her. He's crying because he knows everything she is saying is right. For someone as committed to the cause and as decorated as Cinta to die because of this clown is wild.

Would love to see how you felt it was rushed. Like how exactly? It was a low security building because they were just setting it up for Gorst. They got that information from Lonni early and it bookended the initial scene in episode 4. So yes, very interested in what felt rushed about it. Can you expand?

Like I just said above, it was more just me being annoyed at the scene than anything. I explained it above to ADiTAR, but it's more my annoyance at the scene than anything necessarily bad about it. I would have laughed if that Ghorman girl (Enza?) just blasted her in the head with her own blaster (that she also wasn't supposed to have). I guess I just have no empathy for Vel or Cinta, unfortunately.

I felt it was rushed because the last time we saw Bix she was ingesting some drug and looked like a complete mess. Then the next time we see her she is infiltrating some base that apparently has a single Imperial guard stationed there? I just didn't buy it. I actually thought it was a dream sequence, to be honest. I mean, maybe it was? Obviously, I am being facetious, but the entire arc had her hopped up on these drugs while having dreams/hallucinations. It would have been nice to see her maybe deny the urge to use that drug and dispose of it prior to that infiltration scene to show that she is serious about getting better and helping Andor.

Those are my thoughts. I can only tell you guys what I thought. If you guys enjoyed those scenes than great, but they didn't work for me, unfortunately. Definitely enjoyed the arc as a whole, though.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Like I just said above, it was more just me being annoyed at the scene than anything. I explained it above to ADiTAR, but it's more my annoyance at the scene than anything necessarily bad about it. I would have laughed if that Ghorman girl (Enza?) just blasted her in the head with her own blaster (that she also wasn't supposed to have). I guess I just have no empathy for Vel or Cinta, unfortunately.

Strange.

I felt it was rushed because the last time we saw Bix she was ingesting some drug and looked like a complete mess. Then the next time we see her she is infiltrating some base that apparently has a single Imperial guard stationed there? I just didn't buy it. I actually thought it was a dream sequence, to be honest. I mean, maybe it was? Obviously, I am being facetious, but the entire arc had her hopped up on these drugs while having dreams/hallucinations. It would have been nice to see her maybe deny the urge to use that drug and dispose of it prior to that infiltration scene to show that she is serious about getting better and helping Andor.

Maybe, that's part of the problem is that you think they "infiltrated" a base. You can see there is only one guard on site. They established that they had just set up a new site for him. There was no infiltration, any more than if this were at his home. The arc here is that she'll be able to overcome her PTSD having vanquished the chief figure responsible for it. She takes the drugs so that she can sleep and Luthen tells her that at some point they'll stop working and we already kind of see that happening. She's wide awake when the beacon is flashing to send them on this mission.

Those are my thoughts. I can only tell you guys what I thought. If you guys enjoyed those scenes than great, but they didn't work for me, unfortunately. Definitely enjoyed the arc as a whole, though.

Fair.

 

[Inspector Q]

Strange.



Maybe, that's part of the problem is that you think they "infiltrated" a base. You can see there is only one guard on site. They established that they had just set up a new site for him. There was no infiltration, any more than if this were at his home. The arc here is that she'll be able to overcome her PTSD having vanquished the chief figure responsible for it. She takes the drugs so that she can sleep and Luthen tells her that at some point they'll stop working and we already kind of see that happening. She's wide awake when the beacon is flashing to send them on this mission.



Fair.

Yeah, the lack of empathy could be because we haven't really seen much of Cinta recently...and the times we have seen her she is in the process of murdering someone, lol.

Yeah, I think it would have been a better scene for me if they showed her overcoming the addiction and that is why she is able to help Cassian in the mission to take out Gorst.

 

[ADiTAR]

Yeah, the lack of empathy could be because we haven't really seen much of Cinta recently...and the times we have seen her she is in the process of murdering someone, lol.

Yeah, I think it would have been a better scene for me if they showed her overcoming the addiction and that is why she is able to help Cassian in the mission to take out Gorst.

I mean we did see her as a mess, and then when cassian came back the apartment was clean. Maybe indicating she's also clean. I kinda like not having every single thing shown.

 

[Inspector Q]

I mean we did see her as a mess, and then when cassian came back the apartment was clean. Maybe indicating she's also clean. I kinda like not having every single thing shown.

Maybe, but for me it seemed like the last time I saw her she was ingesting that stuff again, lol. I don't know...it didn't work for me, unfortunately. It would have been more powerful to see her deny her final urge to put that shit in her mouth and THEN we see the apartment cleaned up. I get what you mean by not showing everything and treating the audience like babies, but I think that would have been something worthy of being shown.

I do have to say, it's kind of upsetting that I am constantly discussing the two scenes that I didn't like rather than the stuff that I actually enjoyed. I feel like a hater of the show or something.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Maybe, but for me it seemed like the last time I saw her she was ingesting that stuff again, lol. I don't know...it didn't work for me, unfortunately. It would have been more powerful to see her deny her final urge to put that shit in her mouth and THEN we see the apartment cleaned up. I get what you mean by not showing everything and treating the audience like babies, but I think that would have been something worthy of being shown.

I do have to say, it's kind of upsetting that I am constantly discussing the two scenes that I didn't like rather than the stuff that I actually enjoyed. I feel like a hater of the show or something.

Nothing wrong with that, I love stuff too but am able to critique the stuff I love

 

[ADiTAR]

I do have to say, it's kind of upsetting that I am constantly discussing the two scenes that I didn't like rather than the stuff that I actually enjoyed. I feel like a hater of the show or something.

Let's do that.

I loved the weird Syril and Dedra romance thing, clearly weird. I also enjoy his mother too much.

The Cassian as a designer scenes were really well written, and that cafe.. I want that in real life (though you can prob find something similar in this world too).

The relationship between Kleya and Luthen is also developing layers, between the scene where they are shouting at each other to the end where they have their own sense of humor. Really well done and feels real.

 

[AJUMP23]

watched episode 4. it was fine.

 

[Inspector Q]

Let's do that.

I loved the weird Syril and Dedra romance thing, clearly weird. I also enjoy his mother too much.

The Cassian as a designer scenes were really well written, and that cafe.. I want that in real life (though you can prob find something similar in this world too).

The relationship between Kleya and Luthen is also developing layers, between the scene where they are shouting at each other to the end where they have their own sense of humor. Really well done and feels real.

Now we are talking, lol.

Curious what the heck is going to happen when Syril realizes he is being used. Both Dedra and Syril are awkward individuals in their own way so it's funny to see them together, but ultimately, it seems like Syril is destined for more disappointment. They are both characters where it's like....they are on the Imperial side, but they aren't just mustache twirling villains. Wonder where they end up by the finale.

Yeah...I loved everything about the Varian Skye scenes. Even though it was a little bit of an exposition dump, the conversation with the hotel worker was quite nice. Even just showing how Cassian gets his alias was quite cool. Just great world building all around. Something that has been quite lacking since the Prequels.

Kleya and Luthen are two of my favorite characters. I like how they both don't have a problem with just ripping into each other. Which makes me wonder what their relationship actually is. That damn kyber crystal still makes me think....

 

[ADiTAR]

Now we are talking, lol.

Curious what the heck is going to happen when Syril realizes he is being used. Both Dedra and Syril are awkward individuals in their own way so it's funny to see them together, but ultimately, it seems like Syril is destined for more disappointment. They are both characters where it's like....they are on the Imperial side, but they aren't just mustache twirling villains. Wonder where they end up by the finale.

One of them will die, I'm expecting him to kill off a bunch of characters. I do like the always disgusted face Dedra has, not sure if that's just how the actress looks like irl or she does this on purpose.

Like someone earlier suggested, it could be the Dedra is Ghorman since it was mentioned she was sorta abandoned.

Kleya and Luthen are two of my favorite characters. I like how they both don't have a problem with just ripping into each other. Which makes me wonder what their relationship actually is. That damn kyber crystal still makes me think....

It seems like they both sleep in that shop. Did they come out from different rooms at night? I can't remember.

 

[Inspector Q]

It seems like they both sleep in that shop. Did they come out from different rooms at night? I can't remember.

I don't believe they showed them coming out of the same room. Yeah, not really sure what their relationship actually is. Still, that kyber crystal in Season 1 seems like something that will be explained at some point. Or they will just leave it unanswered. Leave it to our imagination.

Then someone will make a "Luthen" tv show 20 years from now and bastardize the character.

 

[Sardaukarama]

Ever since rogue one I always think of Andor as Manuel from Fawlty towers

 

[SirKicksalot]

...the French Resistance, really?
The Asian aliens or the 1950s diner from the prequels are masterfully subtle compared to this shitshow. Ghorman is fucking cringe.

Well, it had a great first season, but now I'm done. Enjoy huffing your space gasoline lmao

 

[Mibu no ookami]

That damn kyber crystal still makes me think....

What's more important than the kyber crystal is how Luthen recruited Vel in the first place. I wonder if it was through Cinta and they were already in a relationship.

But even if it was through Cinta, I wonder how Luthen recruited Cinta. Her family was killed by stormtroopers, which would have made it easier to target her for recruitment, but that circles us back to Luthen's motivations.

I think a key detail is that the circle is essentially Mon Mothma, Luthen, Kleya, Vel, and Cinta (before Cassian is brought in) and Cassian probably doesn't even know about Mon Mothma at this point, because he doesn't need to.

We also don't know anything about Kleya's motivations and only know that she is Luthen's closest partner. That proximity MUST mean something. It suggests to me a familial bond or close to it in order for Luthen to have that degree of trust in her. She calls Luthen, Luthen even in private and I don't get the sense that she is her daughter. So I'm getting daughter-in-law vibes. And that there motivations are probably the same, i.e. the Empire killing his son/her husband. The kyber crystal complicates that because making him a jedi is such a retread on the Anakin storyline with Padme. Though perhaps the woman he loved was a jedi and it is her kyber crystal and maybe she was the older sister of Kleya.

What I also find interesting is how fallible they are. They didn't do a sufficient background check on Skeen and they didn't try to find out who the Ghorman's imperial source is.

 

[ADiTAR]

What I also find interesting is how fallible they are. They didn't do a sufficient background check on Skeen and they didn't try to find out who the Ghorman's imperial source is.

It really means that basically they also have flaws. The rebellion has a lot of shit going and Luthen says so to Keyla, that they have too much going on to focus.

 

[JonCarr/]

Just saw the first episode of Season 2 and what a downgrade in dialogue. Some executive probably told Tony Gilroy to tone down the seriousness and dumb the conversations. I could see why some of you feel something is off. It's a different vibe. Not necessarily bad for typical Disney Starwars but still disappointing for Andor.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

It really means that basically they also have flaws. The rebellion has a lot of shit going and Luthen says so to Keyla, that they have too much going on to focus.

Yeah, they're constantly making mistakes and either having to figure things out or deal with the fallout of their mistakes (or both).

I loved Season 1 and I also love Season and yes they're different, but not in the ways I think many are suggesting.

People think the writing is off because there are "sillier" elements as if those moments weren't in Season 1 as well.

B2EMO getting pissed on by the "dogs"
B2EMO in general until he becomes a sad boy
Cassian and nurchin
The aliens who rescue Cassian from Narkina 5
Skeen taking the piss out of Nemek
The two guys working at that business where they're trying to figure out what Ferrix is

And on and on and on...

It seems a lot of people lose perspective over time and glaze what was at the expense of what is... You even have some people who hated TLOUP2 not praising it against the tv show... lol... Maybe it's just the nature of gatekeeping behavior or the strength of nostalgia, I don't know...

 

[BadBurger]

I think the show is still good, but I agree with those taking issue with the rebel/forest scenes. They're kind of goofy and boring and don't add to the overall thrust of the story.

I don't pretend to know how these productions work, but to me it really feels like those scenes were written by new comers.

 

[Spyxos]

As much as I liked the first season, but now after 5 episodes I find it rather boring. I didn't expect it at all but I don't think I'll continue watching it.

Edit: Ok, I watched another episode, this is getting worse and worse. All that's missing now are Russians in Star Wars.

 

[Oberstein]

Ep. 4-5-6


To put it simply, it's way better than the first three episodes. Better structure, sharper dialogue, an interesting historical grounding, and it all flows more smoothly. That said, there's still something slightly off—can't quite put my finger on it.


First off…
There are definitely some highlights, especially the worldbuilding, which is truly exceptional. The Ghorman sets, the 1940s-style visuals in France, all the small props that give things a real, lived-in feel (like that modern version of Skyrim's lockpicking device), and the costumes overall. I still remember how awful the outfits were in Boba Fett—cheap, cringe cosplay vibes. Here, at least, they're not insulting us.


There's acting, and some damn good acting at that. Luthen and Mon Mothma are top-tier, and I really hope Gilroy leans into a "young Stalin" angle with Luthen—that could get interesting. Saw's monologue, although a bit clipped, still lands well. Syril's arc could go somewhere compelling if they steer it in the right direction. I hope they do. Diego Luna holds his own, too.


But let's be honest: Partagaz steals the show. "Calibrate your enthusiasm." Okay, just give him the Oscar already. Jokes aside, I genuinely love all the ISB scenes. Lonni is easily the gutsiest character in the series when you really look at it. It's going to be brutal when he gets found out.


Now, all that praise aside, some things still drag the good elements down:

• The Cinta/Vel romance is boring as hell.
• And Cinta's death? Total "meh." Sure, it's just an accident, and I get that it's better than going full heroic cliché—but I couldn't care less about her. Same goes for Vel.
• The whole sequence in episode 3 is limp. It starts off tense, but then it just tries too hard, and you can tell. The weapons heist has no real stakes, NPCs pop in randomly (Lezine shows up for absolutely no reason), etc.
• The scene where Karen—sorry, Vel—lectures the rebel is just cringe.
• The worldbuilding kind of undercuts the plot, and honestly, not much happens across these three episodes. That wasn't an issue during the Aldhani heist back in Season 1. That arc was miles better.
• Sometimes it feels too French. I get the reference and I actually enjoy it, but at some point it becomes a bit heavy-handed. I would've liked a more personal spin.
• Bix killing Dr. Gorst feels too cheap. It's an easy pleasure, overly simplistic. That's surprising coming from Gilroy. It could've been more nuanced, less "bang bang, you're dead, I got my revenge on the evil white torturer." Lame.

That said, we're clearly on an upward trajectory, which is good news. I just hope the climb continues next week and into the finale. It's just that right now, all the "I jizz in my pants" level reviews feel totally out of touch. People need to calm down a bit.


And sure, I get the criticism that this is straying far from your typical Star Wars—but we need to decide what we really want. You can't expect purebred Star Wars and then also demand noir-level dialogue on the side. I don't know if Gilroy can pull off that fusion going forward. We'll see. But it's looking like a tough balancing act.

 

[DragoonKain]

I'm not a Star Wars enthusiast, so my opinion on this matters less than those who are, but I loved Andor season 1 and I find this season still decent, but definitely a drop off. I just don't find it as compelling. Not sure what it is exactly, I'd have to rewatch season 1 to pinpoint it exactly. It seems like this season is following Andor a lot less in terms of screen time, but maybe it just feels that way I'm not sure. But I still think it's the best Star Wars thing going right now, which probably isn't saying much because all the other stuff blows to me.

 

[Superkewl]

I'm not a Star Wars enthusiast, so my opinion on this matters less than those who are, but I loved Andor season 1 and I find this season still decent, but definitely a drop off. I just don't find it as compelling. Not sure what it is exactly, I'd have to rewatch season 1 to pinpoint it exactly. It seems like this season is following Andor a lot less in terms of screen time, but maybe it just feels that way I'm not sure. But I still think it's the best Star Wars thing going right now, which probably isn't saying much because all the other stuff blows to me.

Yeah, I feel kind of the same. This season isn't exactly terrible, but isn't that great either.

Well, I think it's all over next week, so hoping they finish off strong beginning tonight.

 

[Sub_Level]

Absolute cinema.

 

[AJUMP23]

Ep7 niece to see yavin but I don't know that I like this version of the rebellion.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

These latest episodes are INSANE in a good way

 

[ADiTAR]

Another three good episodes, where the last one is really top notch.

The minus for me is the french revolution, almost felt like Les Misérables. Didn't like how Syril died, felt too cliche. I don't know why directors can't help themselves saving people at the last minute (twice in this episode), especially since we know Cassian isn't gonna die. Since you know your audience sorta knows this, you can be much more smart about these set pieces.

So yeah, last episode is great. Felt intense, smart, well written. Love the quick kills no frills by Cassian.

 

[lifa-cobex]

I don't know if I can get into this though. It doesn't feel like Star Wars still just from what little I've seen.

It's the least SW series out there.

I think it was roughly episode 4/5 where the plot shifted and became more mainline for the charecter Andor.
It then clicked with me and I got the hype.

Season 2 isn't doing it for me so far.
It's not bad, but it's not engaging me.

 

[HoodWinked]

episode 7-9 were excellent though they fall short of surpassing the peaks of S1.

it's hard for me to pinpoint what exactly makes S2 not as compelling even though it is more technical and better produced. maybe it's because we're getting closer to Rogue One and the Battle of Scariff you lose something or maybe the new side characters are flat like Vel and Engineering kid.

 

[Dev1lXYZ]

I'm three episodes away from calling this season a total flop.
-Not enough Cassian
-The female characters aren't interesting or needed.
-Arcs go on and on to lead to nowhere interesting. Too much talky filler.
-Time skips that don't make sense as the characters don't evolve with the time skips, they look like the last episode they were in pre skip.

 

[ADiTAR]

Time skips that don't make sense as the characters don't evolve with the time skips, they look like the last episode they were in pre skip.

That I dont agree. There are def subtle thing like hair and such that changes between the leaps.

I do agree that the Bix arc is a fail, its like they didnt know what to do with it and ended it poorly. Porb should have let her die in s1

 

[DragoonKain]

I think the last two episodes recaptured the greatness of season 1. Andor is back. I think the show is at its best when what Andor and Mon do is interesting. Mon really starting to take center stage and Andor finally doing riveting stuff.

As an aside, I'm really attracted to evil Dedra, and I don't know why, but I laughed when Syril died.

 

[EviLore]

Worth powering through the early S2 eps then it sounds like

 

[Dev1lXYZ]

That I dont agree. There are def subtle thing like hair and such that changes between the leaps.

I do agree that the Bix arc is a fail, its like they didnt know what to do with it and ended it poorly. Porb should have let her die in s1

I'm going to rewatch some episodes again. I went back and watched R1 last night to see how well the show lined up with it. Diego obviously looks younger in R1 than the show-but that's a given due to the years of difference between filming. Also, the special effects shots in the show are much better than most of that movie, which surprised me a little.

 

[ADiTAR]

I'm going to rewatch some episodes again. I went back and watched R1 last night to see how well the show lined up with it. Diego obviously looks younger in R1 than the show-but that's a given due to the years of difference between filming. Also, the special effects shots in the show are much better than most of that movie, which surprised me a little.

I think I watched it twice and I still only remember few things. It's nice to be movie senile that you can rewatch them again almost like new and say to yourself "I remember".

 

[Roufianos]

Definitely gets better each week but agree with others in this thread that it's not capturing the season one highs.

Also lol at that lame chant about the galaxy watching, almost as bad as the power of maaaaany.

 

[AJUMP23]

Is there another episode or is EP9 it?

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Is there another episode or is EP9 it?

They are releasing the last batch of episodes next week which is episodes 10, 11 and 12

 

[AJUMP23]

They are releasing the last batch of episodes next week which is episodes 10, 11 and 12

Thank goodness. Otherwise it was a weird end.

 

[ADiTAR]

Thank goodness. Otherwise it was a weird end.

Well, it needs to connect to the movie.

 

[AJUMP23]

Well, it needs to connect to the movie.

I don't think Disney cares.