ambientmystic
Member
That's really bloody depressing right there. In previous generations we'd have had 4 mainline FF games in that same period of time. Everyone of them good.
Lightning Returns Review Thread
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That's really bloody depressing right there. In previous generations we'd have had 4 mainline FF games in that same period of time. Everyone of them good.
Shacknews - 8
http://www.shacknews.com/article/83046/lightning-returns-final-fantasy-xiii-review-striking-distance
I was kind of worried about the time thing, but it might prove beneficial to fail on the first go.
http://www.shacknews.com/article/83046/lightning-returns-final-fantasy-xiii-review-striking-distance
I was kind of worried about the time thing, but it might prove beneficial to fail on the first go.
badcrumble
Member
The fanbase isn't that divided, though. It's mostly on one side of the issue.
And there was a LOT of acrimony around FFX, X-2, and XII that I can recall. And FFVIII.
djplaeskool
Member
Good combat usually lets me completely ignore even the worst infractions...or non-existent design otherwise.
Case and Point: I thought Grandia Xtreme was freaking awesome.
Diprosalic
Banned
Lé Blade Runner;100395995 said:
Combination of people that are attached to it, statements that were made and the abysmal character design.
I dunno man. Im not an MMO guy, playing FF14:ARR and really liked it as I felt it was the most "Final Fantasy" game I have played since 12.
I quit playing after my free month on the Ps3 so I could upgrade to the ps4 and continue on my path to lvl 50.
I play solo.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
After hearing how Square USA treats reviewers who give their games less than positive reviews, I'm not surprised by the amount of 7/10 ratings this game has.
That would be epic
brandonh83
Banned
Wait, you can actually fail and have to restart the entire game?
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
Toth, almost every review has praised the gameplay and how the LR team tried to do an open world. The problem is that it was rather sloppy in execution (side quests are mind numbing, textures wildly vary, it isn't the most technically sound in terms of framerate/pop in, etc) and not many people are a fan of the story. Kudos to them for trying something different, but that doesn't give them a free pass on how sloppy so much of the game comes across as.
Shmuely Bully
Member
It wouldn't surprise me if there is a goddess statue or something that is modeled after her, a full on cameo seems less likely.
Corronchilejano
Member
Technical issues doomed TLR. Those were corrected for the PC release.
Is there any way to fix storyline and questline issues? I don't think so.
badcrumble
Member
Even if you fail, you basically get pushed into New Game Plus and get to start over again with a much, much more powerful Lightning (assuming you didn't just start up the game and then let it sit there at the beginning of the opening mission until the timer ran out).
Suzushiiro
Banned
Yeah, pretty much. The hate for the older games has only faded because those people have moved on to hating the newer games. In a series defined by changing everything up every game, you're inevitably going to get arguments over which ones were the best and which ones were shit.
brandonh83
Banned
Does the clock run even in the menu or in the Ark?
Nope.
Yes, if you run out of time. But is supposed to be pretty easy to keep extending it. And on the bright side, you do get to keep all of your upgrades if it happens.
Finished Lightning Returns. Battle system was fun. Did 42 subquests and a few of these board quests for leveling up including every main quest and
and finished in 26 hours without any guides. Played on easy.
Story is cheese and sucks. Graphics are everywhere, sometimes good enough but never the quality of FFXIII... it's FFXIII on the Vita. Soundtrack is the worst because of recycling old songs and the new songs aren't really epic or good.
It is not a bad game per se, but you don't really need to play it. I only played it because I wanted to finish the FFXIII Saga (and I really liked FFXIII-2!) and because the gameplay is very fun.
For 30$ 30 it is a good buy though.
the bonus dungeon on day 14
Story is cheese and sucks. Graphics are everywhere, sometimes good enough but never the quality of FFXIII... it's FFXIII on the Vita. Soundtrack is the worst because of recycling old songs and the new songs aren't really epic or good.
It is not a bad game per se, but you don't really need to play it. I only played it because I wanted to finish the FFXIII Saga (and I really liked FFXIII-2!) and because the gameplay is very fun.
For 30$ 30 it is a good buy though.
I'd like to see her become something of a/the new generation of Cid ala previous games.
Mr. Poolman
Member
Ari, no.
brandonh83
Banned
That's good. It's been idling at the ark for a little bit while I got lunch
But isn't this like 30 hours long? I don't want to restart just because the damn timer ran out. Hopefully you're right about it being easy to extending it. Maybe Square will add Time Extension DLC.
...yeah I'm kidding.
Shmuely Bully
Member
I'd argue that a lot of the hate for FFXIII is actually rooted in the fact that prior to it (and FFXII which most ignored/didn't play) the series was incredibly conservative. The window dressing was replaced every time, but the actual gameplay didn't changed very much.
FFXIII changed the combat system in a very visible way which turned a lot of people off. It wasn't the first to be linear or the first with a poorly done story.
What was the most hated game prior to 13? FFVIII and it was the most different from the classic formula.
badcrumble
Member
If she'd have totally different personalities and character designs and voice actors for each game and only the name was held in common, then sure, whatever.
you're joking right
Red Mage
Member
It's not killed, just seriously wounded, and in large part to the Lightning "Saga."
As for you you saying those of us who have been enjoying the series since the NES days should let it go, that's a perfect example of why XIII fans catch so much grief.
She's basically that now minus the voice actor thing, haha.
12 is far more experimental than both 13 or 8 in my opinion.
I disagree. The combat system is rather good - not quite good enough, but it wasn't a problem at all in the game. I have more issues with the Crystarium (poor, poor leveling system with no complexity whatsoever, especially compared to FFX), the linearity (which is far worse than any other FF title), and the story (some FF stories aren't so great when you think about them, but most of them are enjoyable, something which is not the case with FFXIII, since its story is grating and FFXIII's ending was full of Deus Ex Machina, leaving the player very unsatisfied). Oh, and the catastrophic framerate of the Xbox 360 version in some places.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
I believe I was told in good faith that I wouldn't share the info around since the reviewer was able to rectify the relationship with Square. It was an eye opener, and honestly; I wouldn't be surprised if other major publishers do the same thing.
It just sucks that honest reviewers get penalized for doing their job.
brandonh83
Banned
It's the one thing that has put me off a bit as well. Huge game, nice open world to enjoy... but you are pressed for time and can't stop to enjoy it at your leisure. Yet on the other side of the token, coming back with all of my upgrades would add a nice element of growth (and revenge). It actually sounds like it is designed to have a lot of replayability in that way.
Haha alright I'm done
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
I will.
badcrumble
Member
FFXIII's gameplay is also quite conservative when you consider all of the ways in which it backtracked from the far more radical FFXII.
But also, the gameplay isn't what people were generally complaining about with regard to FFXIII (outside of the weaksauce summons, I suppose, and the way that using auto-battle is extremely effective). The complaints I heard were mostly about the strict linearity (far worse than in any other previous FF game), lack of towns/NPCs/backtracking, the barebones equipment/leveling system, and the bad story/writing. FFXIII's gameplay is really just fine, IMO, and I don't think many people were complaining about it. This idea that FFXIII just innovated too darn much for those stick-in-the-mud fans is fiction.
Red Mage
Member
Only if she's an option boss you can beat the crap out of. I'd be totally fine with that, considering the amount of tears Toriyama would cry over it.
LR is worse than both.
I enjoyed both 13 and 13-2 despite the problems. But LR is just on another level.
brandonh83
Banned
Maybe, we'll see. What you just said is exactly why I didn't like Majora's Mask. Having a time limit for games like this just make no fucking sense to me.
Glass Rebel
Member
We all know that she's the Dragoon girl and if she isn't yet, she will be.
I was more interested in the salty tears of the fanbase over her inclusion in other FF games lol
Someone never played Dissidia.
I think it's over for Light-san. She may get a cameo in KH 3 though.
I agree, even though I didn't really like it.
In the end I still loved Majora's Mask, but usually hate time constraints. It really depends on the game and how everything is wrapped around such a mechanic. But yeah, we shall see. I am going to dip on in here in a few hours.