Well we're not going to sign him for the mid-level.CB3 said:Maggette is most likely upcoming FA so no need for a trade
Sign and trade?
Well we're not going to sign him for the mid-level.CB3 said:Maggette is most likely upcoming FA so no need for a trade
what's the incentive? sterling is cheap, yes. stupid, borderline. but give the man some credit, kind sir.Branduil said:Well we're not going to sign him for the mid-level.
Sign and trade?
Well, they almost gave us Maggette for Terry last off-season.viakado said:what's the incentive? sterling is cheap, yes. stupid, borderline. but give the man some credit, kind sir.
stupid it is then. maybe mitch can use his magic wand and do a magette/walton swap. they are in fact across the hall.Branduil said:Well, they almost gave us Maggette for Terry last off-season.
Kak.efes said:DeShawn Stevenson calls out Lebron, says he's all on Jay-Z's (shorts).
:lol
viakado said:reilo, when you figure out why a garbage player is getting more minutes, then maybe you can figure out why phil jackson has a man-crush on luke walton. he's been getting more minutes then space cadet. the logic? its beyond my puny lil brain.
We'll trade you Devean George for Luke.viakado said:reilo, when you figure out why a garbage player is getting more minutes, then maybe you can figure out why phil jackson has a man-crush on luke walton. he's been getting more minutes then space cadet. the logic? its beyond my puny lil brain.
But ESPN tells me that Doc Rivers is the Coach of the Year.reilo said:Walton is a stop-gap until Ariza comes back. You cannot play all your starters 48 minutes. Well, George Karl and Doc Rivers are at least trying. We'll see how that goes.
In all fairness to the sports fan, results come and go quite quickly so it's hard to maintain a steady opinion over the long haul.reilo said:Whoever said that the sports fan has the most fickle mind was right.
Karakand said:In all fairness to the sports fan, results come and go quite quickly so it's hard to maintain a steady opinion over the long haul.
Like it took what, 6 years for Americans to realize having a rubber-stamp Congress for Bush was probably a bad idea? Unless you're unlucky you won't know if you were right or wrong about the whole god thing until you're in your 70s or so, and even then you won't be able to come back and troll people on GAF about it because you'll either be dead or having too much fun to care in the real Cloud City.
gump for puke??..hmm...tempting, branduil.tempting.Branduil said:We'll trade you Devean George for Luke.
Devean George: 3 rings.viakado said:gump for puke??..hmm...tempting, branduil.tempting.
:lol I tried picturing how some of us would post at 70 just now. Amusing.reilo said:Oh fuck that, I'll be on GAF when I'm 70.
Exactly.Branduil said:The point is, Fire Avery.
reilo said:So, there is a raging debate among Blazers faithful on the internets about Nate McMillan.
reilo said:Oh fuck that, I'll be on GAF when I'm 70.
Sumidor said:Most of it stems from McMillan making questionable subs. He has like a certain time that each player will come out (this doesn't include foul trouble and of that nature). And sometimes it ruins the flow of the team, because he'll take out a player who's doing really well, isn't tired at all and put in someone else. And most of the time it's Jarret Jack. I think what most people complain about, is that when Sergio is in the game, if he makes one mistake, he's taken out. Jack on the other hand, will make a few, and then nothing. And since they've Pritchard has said that Sergio is potentially their PG of the future, he needs a longer leash, to learn through his mistakes and get more playing time. Everyone's seen the potential that Sergio has, and it's not like he ONLY can play in a run and gun system. I'm not a huge fan of Nate, never have been. I think he's a good drill sergeant and can help the younger players develop.. but when it comes to in-game coaching.. I roll my eyes way too much...
Obviously
the issue is not whether Nate has any biases or preferences, as a normal human being would...and EVERY coach in the NBA does. The allegation is that he has an unfair or unjustified bias that is causing him to go against what's best for the team. In order to prove such a thing you'd have to show:
1. There are no basketball-related reasons to have Jarrett Jack in. If there's even ONE basketball-related reason to have Jack in you can attribute whatever playing time he gets to that and not bias, so there's no reason for the accusation to be made. Or...
2. Nate is making his decisions based on reasons other than basketball and the best interests of the team.
The first has clearly not been proven, nor can it be. Whatever statstics you tend to favor, whatever player you would put in there instead, there are also arguments for Jarrett. It's not like Steve Nash is sitting on our bench and Nate is playing JJ instead. There are at least a couple basketball-related reasons to play him instead of Blake or Rodriguez.
The second cannot be shown. In fact none of us has ANY CLUE what's going on inside Nate's head, period. To insinuate and imply that we do is presumptuous. It's also very insulting to imply that a coach is working against the best interests of his team and that somehow you realize it and he doesn't.
Add to this the accusation brings absolutely zero productive discussion. As I said in the orginal post, you cannot prove a negative. I can call you a Communist. You can't prove you're not. "But I'm registered as a Democrat!" That's obviously just a cover. "But I'm voting for Obama!" That's what you say...and hey, he's pretty left-leaning isn't he? Hmmmmm... Then somebody else says, "You know, there's a gap in your reasoning here..." Aha! So YOU'RE a Communist too!!!
The only thing such an accusation can lead to is, "Yes he is!" "No he's not!" "Yes he is!" "No he's not!" "Well look at points per minute! That shows it!" "Well look at fouls drawn! That shows different!" That's just silly, especially when, as I said, nobody knows. NONE of it leads to that kind of conclusion.
THAT is why there's a moratorium on that accusation. It has not been wiped out. People have been allowed to say it. We've all heard it. OK, we'll take that under advisement. Now let's move on to something we can actually talk about.
--Dave
reilo said:Question: Do you want Sergio in the 4th quarter on the FT line or Jack? Do you want Sergio in the 4th quarter when you need a defensive stop or steal or Jack? Do you want Sergio in the 4th when you need to make a basket around the rim and draw a foul or Jack?
Why is Jack's leash longer? Because he has 4 years of college experience behind him PLUS three years of NBA experience. What does Sergio have? Two years in the NBA and playing backup PG on the Spanish team.
Sumidor said:That's where i'll agree with you. Kinda. That's the one thing I think Jack does very well, is attack the rim and why he should be in certain 4th quarter situations. Sergio needs a longer leash, because he is inexperienced. He needs to be out there learning by playing. Not by watching. My biggest gripe with Nate isn't the whole Jack-Sergio thing. It's just his subbing with other players, especially when Portland's D is getting shredded and they can't grab a board to save their lives... and Joel is sitting on the bench. I don't care how bad is offense is, he's there for defense, strong/solid picks, and toughness. Something Portland lacks immensely when he's not in there.
Sounds like Portland is going to make the same mistake that Seattle made. I'm sure my Knicks will love having Nate as their coach next season.
reilo said:Joel has been playing 30MPG the past month and a half though. He cannot play 48 minutes :lol
Plus, certain situations call for Frye to be in for offensive purposes. You have to rest Joel. It's even a miracle he hasn't missed a game yet this season. Plus, Joel sometimes commits a few dumb fouls and you have to sit him.
Yeah right. Nate has KPs and Paul Allen's support. What do you think was rattling off in their heads when they watched Portland win 13 in a row largely due in part of Nate's coaching without Greg Oden?
Sumidor said:Well I think Nate finally realized he needs Joel in there at times. And i'm shocked and very happy that he hasn't gotten hurt. And i'm done with the whole Nate thing. Main reason I can't go the RealGM boards anymore, so annoying.. that and the constant Lebron vs. Kobe threads. Geezus.
Branduil said:Yeah, he's no Avery Johnson.
reilo said:What about RealGM boards?
I'm coming to realize how widespread this phenomenon has become. ESPN might as well call itself the Kobe vs. Lebron board. Prosportsdaily has a good deal of this as well, but with Chris Paul thrown into the mix.Sumidor said:Well I think Nate finally realized he needs Joel in there at times. And i'm shocked and very happy that he hasn't gotten hurt. And i'm done with the whole Nate thing. Main reason I can't go the RealGM boards anymore, so annoying.. that and the constant Lebron vs. Kobe threads. Geezus.
seattle6418 said:so people in portland don't like nate?
Green Shinobi said:I'm coming to realize how widespread this phenomenon has become. ESPN might as well call itself the Kobe vs. Lebron board. Prosportsdaily has a good deal of this as well, but with Chris Paul thrown into the mix.
I just checked this site and the Wolves board is mind-numbingly stupid. If I never go back, it'll be too soon.reilo said:What about RealGM boards?
Better than RealGM, at least. They had a whole thread basically saying "McCants: Ship his ass out." Then a thread about why Foye is an average player. For homers, they're doing it wrong.reilo said:NeoGAF = best basketball board*?
oh come now reilo, its a well known fact that laker-age is the salt of nba-age.FACT!reilo said:NeoGAF = best basketball board*?
*If you ignore the idiot Lakers age
etiolate said:I think Sergio is trade bait, but I actually think he can do some important things. I watched him in the World Tourny when he was the backup, but he was playing down the stretch because he kept making plays and shots.
James Jones - MVP. The Suns were so desperate to get rid of James Jones' contract that they sold him to the Blazers along with Fernandez in what may turn out to be the worst trade in NBA history. All Jones has done is make 49% of his threes this season. He also appears to be incredibly important to the team's fortunes. It was shortly after Jones returned from an early season injury that the Blazers won 13 straight. It was after he got hurt again that they lost 9 of 11. Portland is 8-16 without Jones this season - leaving them 27-17 with him.