Titanfall Season Pass Confirmed
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TheCanisDirus
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Right!? As a dev you really can't win and pretty much have to plan on adding DLC for a FPS nowadays. This launches with 15 (all sources are pointing to it) maps and that's pretty much standard... i do wish that this came with 20+ out of the gate to supplement the unique take on MP campaign. And we still don't know for certain about the number, or game modes, or anything really. Let's wait and see what's in the final package ery'body!
outunderthestars
Banned
I must have missed the part where they are forcing people to buy a season pass for the game. How about this: if you don't see value in a season pass for the game, just don't buy one? How exactly is offering consumers an OPTIONAL pass a bad thing?
Dr D Wayne Love
Banned
Why do the moaners miss out the second sentence when they quote this?
Huh? Whats your point? Because some features are not ready for launch, means nobody at the studio have finished their work on the main game?
TheCanisDirus
Member
They'd better be... any less that 15 is pretty weak for a $60.00, modern, multiplayer only FPS. (i know it has a "campaign" but nothing like it's comparable brethren.. you know what i'm getting at.)
Exactly. Season Passes are harmless. If you plan on buying all DLC then you'll appreciate the discount. If you're more weary of them, then buy them piecemeal. Don't care about them then buy none of them.
Is there a difference? Serious question
Woo-Fu
Banned
When your goal is moaning you tend to ignore the counter-productive bits.
Because they should have been there in the first place. But if people are happy to have these missing that's fine, after all, we all bought a half finished PS4/Xbox One.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Online pass is the one that won't let you play multiplayer at all unless you buy it (or get it with the game). Season pass is optional DLC savings and pre-purchase.
Wotta, you're such a ball of joy. You buying TitanFall?
Woo-Fu
Banned
Yes. Season Pass is a one price purchase for all pay-DLC in a given period of time. This varies from publisher/dev/title, each of them seem to have a slightly different spin on what Season means.
Online Pass is a fee to play a game online that presumably you purchased used/traded for/etc. without taking over the original account the game was tied to. Pretty sure EA has already determined Online Passes to be a failure.
Exactly what I've been worrying about all along. I'm sure it'll be fine (hopefully). Would have been nice to have some official confirmation tho.
You're buying something that has been planned for that they didn't stick into the game all to get extra money. The damn game is already $60 for multiplayer only. Not only that you have to pay even more just to access multiplayer through XBL.
Then in order to get features and maps that they had planned for; you have to pay more.
All awhile these same people who just love giving these companies money are making fun of everyone else who only pays 99c and has a hell of a time.
It's ironic really.
Garrett 2U
Member
Meh.
Nice to know private matches are coming.
Nice to know private matches are coming.
You save money if you know you're going to buy all the DLC anyways.
Haha thanks
TBH I probably would have day one, but I think I may be reviewing this one.Most of my concerns are thinking from a consumer point of view TBH (I'm a big gamer obviously).
Nothing is wrong with that but if you plan to buy the DLC, it will cost you more in the longrun if you buy them outside of a Season Pass...unless you mean wait 2 years or so until all the DLC goes on sale.
Haha thanks
Most of my concerns are thinking from a consumer point of view TBH (I'm a big gamer obviously).
What do consumers want when they buy a game?
Woo-Fu
Banned
If you buy the pass you get the DLC for cheaper.
Now you can wait for deals on the DLC but that is often not a good idea for a multiplayer game as you can miss what I like to think of as the "window of viability". I want to learn those maps at the same time everybody else does, not come in completely clueless vs. veterans who already know every spot on the map so I tend to go for dlc maps day one in multiplayer FPS.
I hear ford is planning to make new cars with new features in 2016...in 2014. Those fucking slime balls!
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
DLC is rarely planned from day 1, that's what people here aren't getting. When, say, the art guys are done working on the full game (could be 2-3 months before ship) they have nothing to do, so they start either working on a sequel or working on DLC for the game. As more teams finish their pieces of the game they transition to working on post-launch support and content. This has been true forever, even way back to expansion packs.
It seems people here are thinking the DLC is 85% done right now, which it's not. Most of the time "we have DLC in mind" merely means the art guys have made some mock-ups of new levels, or they've had a meeting to discuss DLC packs.
piratepwnsninja
Member
So devs aren't allowed to plan for future content, which costs money to make, make said content after a game gets certified/released, then ask money for it?
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Man this is crazy.. Paying $60 for an incomplete game is going to be the trend for console games this gen isn't it?
Looks like I'll be buying even less games if this continues.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It depends on when the content gets made if it's made before release then it's a reasonable argument after release then it's simply an expansion pack, and there's nothing inherently wrong with those. In fact many like them because allows them to get more content than the game would have likely to be shipped with.
Also there's nothing wrong with multiplayer only. Do you use term single player only in the same manner. If not your being a hypocrite.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Didn't EA abandoned Season passes?
Online passes
RibbedHero
Member
Yes, it's known as good project management and revenue management.
I'm all for season passes. But I hate when they are announced early. even before the game comes out.
I hate seeing dlc for a game that is less than 3-4months old. Unless it is for content that was offered as a pre-order bonus and/or collector's edition. Otherwise it seems like nickel and dimeing.
I hate seeing dlc for a game that is less than 3-4months old. Unless it is for content that was offered as a pre-order bonus and/or collector's edition. Otherwise it seems like nickel and dimeing.
I must have missed the part where I said that they were. Can you point me to that part of my post?
I stated in my original post that Season Passes haven't been worth the money in my opinion. Therefore, offering an optional pass that isn't worth the money is a bad thing yeah. Do I know that Titanfall's pass will be a poor experience? No I don't. I just know that many many other ones have been and am saying, yeah it's a bad thing for customers to support something before they even know exactly what's included.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I know about saving a little bit, but it seems better to wait and see if each dlc is any good.
If you MUST buy this, why not at least wait until the first piece of content is formally announced? Lets not forget Bioshock Infinite....and hell with bf4 premium there were tangential issues which made people regret spending their $110. It is your money but in my experience a little patience can be good.
If you MUST buy this, why not at least wait until the first piece of content is formally announced? Lets not forget Bioshock Infinite....and hell with bf4 premium there were tangential issues which made people regret spending their $110. It is your money but in my experience a little patience can be good.
There is disdain because it is Titanfall. Any other game this thread would not even exist. I give until this afternoon before this thread is longer then the OT.
Touche. However; EA has shown time and time again that they cut off servers from their previous games to force users to their new games. They can't do this to single player games. It's also just another move to make games as services instead of something you "own." We should move this discussion to another thread though; so I apologize for railing.
constantstatic
Member
Good thing this game doesn't use EA servers do some research before you spout nonsense
Woo-Fu
Banned
With their current form of matchmaking the fractures aren't visible to the end-users. It might be a bit more obvious with private lobbies.
I do agree that pay maps cause this issue but I see it as less of an issue for games that rely primarily on quickmatch instead of server communities.In normal course of business, this would have been shocking news, but they did deny it a few times and say it didn't exist. So, even though we all expected a season pass, Respawn made us think it might not happen. Last minute decision or not, I'm interested in seeing the value proposition from them.
First $60 is worth less than it ever has been in gaming history and really is not much money.
Xbl is microsoft so that's not really Respawns fault don't like that buy a pc.
Respawn is making an mp game and mp games need dlc to keep things fresh and shocker they should be paid for their continued support.
Lastly please oh please show me a .99 app that can give me a he'll of a time like titanfall. I'll wait.....
Doesn't really change his point except to change EA to MS.
Because it costs more money to buy all the DLC individually. If you're a serious online player, and you know you're going to buy all future maps, then a Season's Pass makes good sense. If that doesn't describe you, then a Season's Pass doesn't make any sense, and you should buy whatever DLC strikes your fancy, or none at all.
Mac the KNife
Member
So the DLC is probably maps, right? If so, disappointing, but easily ignorable.
ComputerMKII
Banned
Because when I pay 59.99 I expect to have the complete game, not a LEGO kit.
I'm not sure I agree with this statement. Games that are online only do not allow people who don't have access to good internet to play the game at all whereas single player only does. Anyone who can play games has access to single player games whereas the opposite isn't true. It's not being a hypocrite, its matter of preference from a story vs multiplayer standpoint.
MooseKnuckles
Banned
How could you possibly know if it was originally going to be included or not? During the last generation these practices were normalised and an understanding developed that in many cases, this content is planned, budgeted and scheduled from the beginning to be sold as DLC post-release. And in many cases the work on the content doesn't starts until the base game is feature complete and can't have additional levels or content added.
Some companies will abuse this system and some will offer DLC that is very poor value for money, but the alternative isn't '"just wait til it's done and put all the content on the disc," because the content exists for the sole purpose of being sold in addition to the base game. If the base game doesn't offer enough value in the first place that is a separate issue.
With regards to your last sentence, it sounds like at least some of the features that didn't make it in due to time constraints (private matches), will in fact be released for free to the entire player base once they are completed. DLC is not an inherently bad thing, and just because developers know they will be making DLC before their game ships doesn't mean they are being predatory or exploitative. It all comes down to implementation and quality.
