If you like how smooth this gif looks (once it's all loaded up)
Then you have nothing to worry about.
Watch_Dogs downgradeaton confirmed
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If you like how smooth this gif looks (once it's all loaded up)
Then you have nothing to worry about.
TheLostBigBoss
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Considering I'm probably going to be banned, I'll do it.
30 FPS my friend. *Hugs*
I don't know, the game certainly looks next-gen to me in motion. Just from watching the video I could tell it was mostly a step above what PS3 and 360 are capable of.
Don't be too quick to write off a game by looking at still screenshots. Some games just don't look that great when they're not in motion, not to mention compression sometimes messes with visuals that otherwise look great on an actual TV.
Don't be too quick to write off a game by looking at still screenshots. Some games just don't look that great when they're not in motion, not to mention compression sometimes messes with visuals that otherwise look great on an actual TV.
Yeah, Jett went a bit FUD with the OP (makes sense with his old "Mr Negativity" tag) instead of just posting the video where the GIF was from. Remember that most of the game's footage has been shown at night time. Technically, the downgrade is there, but not in terms of the game systems or interactions like there has been for other E3 vertical slice->game releases. I'll always be excited about mantling over cars
Still looks like a PS3/360 game. Not impressive for next-gen
Rodney McKay
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I'm comparing initial 2013 footage here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&feature=iv&src_vid=1DgFrYU1xNA&v=htJyuVRa0-c
To this latest footage here: http://www.everyeye.it/video/ps4/watch-dogs_videoanteprima_13243
Well, from the initial reveal footage, there is an amazing wind effect that interacts with the environment that appears to missing in all the footage from that Italian site's video. The depth of field effects in addition to the general blur effects are noticeably worse as well.
The shine/reflections and other details on the sidewalk and streets appear to be gone. Bricked areas used to look like actual bricks, but now they look like flat textures (either from the lighting changes or the lowered detail). The density of floating particles seems to be diminished if not removed entirely (i think i did see a can and a leaf blow at one point, but much less than from the 2013 footage).
The daytime lighting is a huge downgrade. The new footage looks flat and overly bright, whereas the initial footage went for a realistic environmental lighting that looked amazing. There are still some gas effects coming from the sewers, but most of the other wind effects seem to be gone.
The streets appear to be much less densely detailed as well with less debris and general objects in the environment.
Messofanego
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I think one of the enemies is shooting an electric stun gun thing and that's the particle for it.
SHADES
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Exactly! And Ubisoft only have themselves to blame for this, is not on any of us as some were saying. We only got hyped by what we were shown & iirc the Aiden chase footage where he chases on foot then into a car during one trailer was supposed to be in game, so going from those expectations to what we saw today with no clear message as to what's what.
Ubisoft sort your shit out!
sixteen-bit
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Sleeping Lesson
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From the (shitty quality) video:
Seriously getting an N64 game vibe.
Wall guy 2014.
In all seriousness, I noticed the graphical downgrade in this latest trailer immediately, and am hoping the PC version is still as good looking as that original E3 gameplay.
Going by other games the PC will look the same besides slight increases to IQ and frame rate.
The lighting is the most crushing downgrade out of everything. Good lighting can make up for so much. The game just looks borderline cartoonish now.
Messofanego
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Ehh haven't seen many PS3/360 open world games look quite as good as that. The animations, the cloth physics. This is not impressive for next gen though, agreed.
nelsonroyale
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Okay, those shots look good. But pretty much all of them are from the pre-rendered cutscenes...
CambriaRising
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They don't look anything like the actual footage, so they are meaningless.
Oublieux
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Don't count on it. The same graphical flaunting happened in Far Cry 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqnAbRpyqfI) where their E3 demonstration was of much greater fidelity than the final retail version on PC at maximum settings.
Fried Food
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Here´s a tweet from Playstation Denmark confirming that it is the PS4 version.
I don't believe it. I can easily imagine PS Denmark not knowing what it was from. I'll wait for the devs themselves to confirm or deny
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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The blurriest 1080p ever. Why not throw some more blur on the depth of field effect.
Geez! If it's really PS4 footage.. then I'm a bit conflicted on whether or not I should get this game. I still wonder if the delay it received last year was because the last gen (PS3 and 360) versions were suffering too many problems. I think the team should have stick to current gen (PC,PS4, Xbox One). This cross-gen bullshit has seriously hampered the game's potential and profitability.
I still hope that Assassins Creed Current Gen exclusive (PC, PS4, Xbox One) is true. I am just sickened about how this turned out.
I am still wondering if the gameplay footage that has been rolling on today is actual PS4 footage. The Denmark twit didn't help. I would not be surprised if this was last gen's extreme limit visually and technically. Because if in the delay they had to re-do the modeling to fit in all versions (last and current gens), just to have them release on the same day, then it is complete bullocks.
I still hope that Assassins Creed Current Gen exclusive (PC, PS4, Xbox One) is true. I am just sickened about how this turned out.
I am still wondering if the gameplay footage that has been rolling on today is actual PS4 footage. The Denmark twit didn't help. I would not be surprised if this was last gen's extreme limit visually and technically. Because if in the delay they had to re-do the modeling to fit in all versions (last and current gens), just to have them release on the same day, then it is complete bullocks.
Sho_Nuff82
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Okay, I'll be fair to the game. I feel kinda responsible for starting this as I was the first to post a screenshot of the car. This is how the footage looks a few seconds earlier.
This section is pretty much on par with what they showed off last year (the car section). Just when they reach that bridge section and the spotlight where things take a turn for the worst.
Note: btw, this doesn't mean that I'm saying the game looks on par with the reveal.
I was going to join the hate parade based on the OP, but this looks pretty damn good.
psn
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Dat lightning....
If this is the PS4 version and not the ps3 version then I'm out.
If this is the PS4 version and not the ps3 version then I'm out.
A small gif always looks better..
Poimandres
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I think it is definitely from PS4. Things like the level of detail in the grass etc when he's walking through the city during the daytime, the IQ, and the texture of his coat makes it pretty clear to me. The lighting took a huge hit compared to the reveal, but the textures and whatnot look the same to me.
Barack Lesnar
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Great post, I just watched both of them basically side-to-side and have come to similar conclusions.
First of all, that wind/physics effect isn't in the 2013 footage, either, so it isn't fair to knock this 2014 trailer for not having it. It's a big loss either way, that effect looked great.
The daytime lighting has me smh. This new footage looks cartoonified compared to the 2013 reel. It's like a bright new super-colorful palette that makes no sense to me other than it being a weak focus-tested attempt to make the game look more like GTA. What are they thinking? It looks both like an art style change and a downgrade technically.
The night time scenes look about the same 2014/2013.
There's a lot more shadows being casted on the MC in the 2013 footage as well.
This game needs that delay and not just due to repetitiveness. It's a hot mess and lacks consistency throughout.
Yeah, what are they doing?
Wot m8
The gif in the OP is the same size
Muffdraul
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How about this?
Those look really good!
I suppose I have to admit, it surely has a lot to do with my personal bias. I loved the whole psuedo-medieval fantasy motif back when I was hardcore into AD&D... which was from like 1980 to 1984. That style just hasn't done anything for me since then, I left it behind and never looked back. I just can't relate to being "WOW!"-ed by that stuff.
Taken from the Gamersyde video:
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L4.0
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Bit rate : 14.9 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 40.3 Mbps
Doesn't even look 1080P....
Austriacus
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If the PC version ends up like the reveal trailer(going against all odds) then ima cry
of happiness
No wind effects nor leaves and debris flying down the sidewalk, trees don't even move. At least AC4 had that... Everything looks sterile. And lets not get into the driving scenes.
I was looking forward to this game. This makes me feel strange... Is this... Is this anger or disappointment?
CassidyIzABeast
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Schweinehund
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I hope arkham knight paves the way for less cross gen games. This is ridonkulus.
Barack Lesnar
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is that open-world? I'll buy a ticket for the hypetrain if it is
Poimandres
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Nah man, Driver was awesome in multiplayer as well. I'd completely forgotten about that, but if that team is on this it actually gives me more confidence in the finished product.
Mr. PlayStation
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5 times the size of Arkham City, where were you?
Taken from the Gamersyde video:
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L4.0
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Bit rate : 14.9 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 40.3 Mbps
Doesn't even look 1080P....
Your JPEG screenshots are 1680x1050, so I imagine it wouldn't look 1080p.
Those are all from cinematics. Just sayin'
And yes, its the best looking parts of the video. Like they should be.
Schweinehund
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I'm assuming it is, five times larger than AC and driveable bat mobile. To be fair, watch dog has civilians walking around and AK probably only has enemies on screen.
Hmm never played the multiplayer. I enjoyed the driving but I honestly can't play a racer that's not 60 FPS for a long period of time. Still was a pretty cool game though.
I might be wrong about them doing this game, now that I think about it, it's probably The Crew.
I'm not usually a guy to yell "downgrade", but my thoughts on Watch_Dogs so far have been that it looked truly next-gen at the initial reveal, pretty darn good when it was shown running on PS4, and now it looks really cross-gen, a lot like AC4.
It still looks nice, but it's a shame it's been pared back so much.
You're right, it should look clearer on my setup. Looks pretty soft on my PS3 / 70" 1080P set as well.
And we're not even talking about the assets and lighting.
This is all true.
A 1500 post thread because of single terrible OP with a misleading gif that looked bad because of weird blown-out lighting. The other gifs posted in this thread are worlds apart.
Wow.
GAF makes me sad sometimes.
Edit: Make that an exactly 1500 post thread. Shot in the dark, lolz.
Edit 2: Forgot the difference between pages and posts, arg...
Wow.
GAF makes me sad sometimes.
Edit: Make that an exactly 1500 post thread. Shot in the dark, lolz.
Edit 2: Forgot the difference between pages and posts, arg...
Yeah, the gameplay is more concerning for me, than graphics. I was able to handle it for Black Flag because of the world and piracy, but it is not looking fun here. I don't think I'm going to buy it, but I hope the people who do enjoy their time with it, I'm sure quite a few will like how it plays!
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