Biggest downgrades from initial reveal?

EvB said:
Raven didn't get released as it was a tech demo... So where was the downgrade

Also Halo 3's in game trailers were almost the same as the in game cut scenes, there wasn't really a much of a downgrade beyond the usual high res version bullshit all developers do.

There was a CG trailer, but it was never suggested that was in game.


I remember everyone being horrified when it turned out that GRaWS trailer was a target render, but it actually came out looking lik it.
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lol no

raven was a CG,not a tech demo and halo 3 reveal looked way way better than the actual game
 
M.Prashanth said:
Five pages and a not single person can remember Ghost Recon Future Soldier?

E3 2010


2012 Final Product
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lol @ this comment

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DrGonzo615 said:
Ah I missed that, but it sounds like Guerilla set the record straight. Im just amazed how close they got....now Im not saying that Kz2 looks like the target render but damn, I can still put that game in and be amazed at how well the graphics have held up, its still one of the best looking games of last gen.
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I've talked about this in the past a bit, but I feel that CG video was the worst thing that ever happened to Guerilla Games. They got fairly close to it but sacrifices were made in controller latency to get there. Some tried to phrase it like it was "weighty", "realistic", or "momentum based" but there was nothing weighty, realistic, or momentum based when the player pulls the trigger and then the on screen character pulls the trigger considerably after the button press. It was latency.
 
I can't seem to find it, but that Coolboarders/CG snowboarder photoshop MS tried to pull off for the original Amped on Xbox. Always makes me laugh.
 
Deus Ex Invisible War.




also.

Forza 5
Crysis
Oblivion
Halo 2-3-Reach
Gears from the UE3 Engine Demo
Metal Gear Solid 3D
FarCry 3
MGS4



And despite all this I have a bit of faith in The Division. It is made by Massive, and those guys know their tech.


Also, they have not gone blackout since E3, they released an Engine Tech Demo not too long ago, something they would be less likely to do if it was all bullshit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2NJSAvuiQ0

Looks great.
 
Ishida said:
All I'm noticing in this thread is that most people post the best pre-release screenshots, and then post the worst-looking final version screenshots to prove their points.
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Actually most people are posting low-quality images in general. I honestly can't tell the difference in most instances.

jett said:
I met this MGS4 comparison a while ago:



That original trailer was total bollocks.
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I don't understand where you're coming from. The piss-filter looks terrible.
 
Toparaman said:
Actually most people are posting low-quality images in general. I honestly can't tell the difference in most instances.



I don't understand where you're coming from. The piss-filter looks terrible.
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You must not have an eye for graphics.


It had better graphical fidelity. Piss filter was an art choice, rest of the downgrades were because the PS3 hardware got a downgrade. From Kojima himself.
 
Motorstorm and Madden were good old fashion bullshit CGI trailers.

MGSIV trailers fooled me mostly with the gekko ai. In the final game they were dumb and clunky as shit.
 
Forza was a very minor downgrade, unless you're thinking of the 'all in-game footage' reveal trailer.

where is Project ego / Fable ?

also Breakdown looked nothing like the original trailer.
 
UnluckyKate said:
FC3 main problem that it has no jungle. No real dense, high three high vegetation jungle. It felt naked compared to the initial reveal past the thick first escape run.
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Yessssssss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqnAbRpyqfI

Not only is the overall density of forests gimped, but the underwater bits aren't nearly as impressive either. The lighting looked so much more natural in that demo. I was really hoping that would at least stay. That probably also effects the grass color and is why it looks so cartoony green in the actual game, whereas the grass in the demo looked a lot more natural.

Also, I beat that video to the punch by 3 days. Apparently I should have created a video xD
 
eso76 said:
Forza was a very minor downgrade, unless you're thinking of the 'all in-game footage' reveal trailer.

where is Project ego / Fable
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Minor? No. Forza 5 was my most hyped game for my XBO at launch. Extremely disappointed with the final product.


The most impressive part graphically is the demo reel at the start menu, and I am 99% sure it is prerendered.


Also , yes Project Ego was a big one. Though the final game still looked impressive.
 
Toparaman said:
Actually most people are posting low-quality images in general. I honestly can't tell the difference in most instances.



I don't understand where you're coming from. The piss-filter looks terrible.
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The shadows, the shading, the models, the textures, the lighting, pretty much everything is much of higher quality.
 
Bioshock Infinite is the worst downgrade I've ever seen, and it's made me feel meh about the game even though it's well made and good. The original E3 gameplay is filled with way way more roller coaster things, that go much higher and the entire world is more open in general. It felt like a living breathing revolutionary setting that offered much more diversity than what we got.

Almost all the cool stuff initially shown ended up not being in the final game, I was pretty devastated. Everything in the final game feels like a linearized, downgraded version of what they originally envisioned. It feels like they wanted to rush to just get the game out so they lowered their ambitions. Even the tonics or whatever they were the addons for guns, powers etc. feel completely tacked on last minute additions rather than integral parts of the game.

So disappointing as Bioshock 1 and 2 were my favorite games last gen and I love the series so much. This game has made me never believe anything I see anymore in a first gameplay session, and I don't know why Irrational or the publisher wasn't called out on blatant false advertisement/lying. You don't show an amazing prototype (not a prototype it was marketed as actual gameplay) and act like that's what the game will have and what it will be and then it comes out and it's totally different.
 
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While nothing can surpass bullshit CGI trailers passed off as gameplay, I would say Halo 2 fits the bill.

The initial reveal had real time reflections in the Chief's visor. The following E3 gameplay was also incredibly good looking.
The end result was a noticeable downgrade. Still nice enough, but not anywhere near what was promised.

I recommend watching the making of Halo 2 documentary. It is brutally honest and shows how stressful development of that game was.
You can find the documentary HERE.
 
JDSN said:
Red Steel
Raving Rabbids
Red Steel 2
Assassin's Creed.
From Dust.
Haze

Im sensing a pattern here.
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I don't get why Assassin's Creed is on that list, the games have always graphically looked just as good as the reveal builds and most of the time better. Gameplay is another thing though. It's the only Ubisoft franchise I can rely on delivering advertised visuals.
 
Wizerd said:
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Fucking Spore.

What was one of the most hyped games out there back in 2005-2006 ended up as a mediocre game that was forgotten by everyone. This wasn't a downgrade in graphics so much as a downgrade in tone, art style, and gameplay.

I used to watch this video all the time. Now it's just a reminder of what could have been the best game ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8dvMDFOFnA
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I was going to post this. What a huge downgrade.
 
Eidan said:
Final game looks better.
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No. No it doesn't.


They litterllay had to downgrade the textures, lighting, shadows, etc for the final game because the PS3 hardware was downgraded.


That's like saying Crysis looks better on medium settings than very high, it's just incorrect.
 
BigTnaples said:
No. No it doesn't.


They litterllay had to downgrade the textures, lighting, shadows, etc for the final game because the PS3 hardware was downgraded.


That's like saying Crysis looks better on medium settings than very high, it's just incorrect.
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You might be correct (and I don't doubt you) but the comparison pic is straight up awful.
 
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