Biggest downgrades from initial reveal?

I can't believe I thought this was real.
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Also I went looking through my old magazines trying to find pictures, but didn't have any.
I remember super early renders for a Robotech game on N64. It looked amazing, but all I could find was what almost was.
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gtrunner said:
the problem with the debunking is that there is more than one image.

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How are those downgrade? The differences in the first were there not to spoil the plot, in the second one the model is different but the first model is in the game anyway, same for the last one, it's just a re-desing. We are also talking about pre-rendered cutscenes, what's the point in cutting corners when you have all the time in the world to render those scenes?
 
Breakdown on the original Xbox. Can't find a comparison but it was super clean, sharp and slick. Game was so bad but good.
 
Heavenly Sword is a good one too by the way, even at E3 2006 the playable build was clearly 60fps (or a locked 30, its REALLY smooth), had MUCH better lighting and textures:

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This is like the Watch Dogs downgrade, was already playable and close to release but just happened to end up worse.
 
TronLight said:
How are those downgrade? The differnce were so not to spoil the plot.
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almost nothing pointed out in this thread would spoil the plot of any game that people are posting.

look at colonial marines, the same scenes are happening but there is just a huge drop in detail.
 
People still fooling themselves in regards to Killzone. The original trailer had a much higher poly count than the real game and higher rez effects. Killzone 2 never matched the trailer. Games look better now on the current consoles because artists have improved since then and they have other tricks. The details on the Killzone trailer meshes still haven't been matched.
 
gtrunner said:
almost nothing pointed out in this thread would spoil the plot of any game that people are posting.

look at colonial marines, the same scenes are happening but there is just a huge drop in detail.
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I'm specifically talking about that Uncharted 3 image.
The second one would have spoiled Drake and Sully going 007 and the new character, Cutter,
being one of them. In the same trailer they show Cutter shooting Drake, they obviously wanted the audience to think of him as the lady's mercenary.
I edited my previous post, maybe you missed it.
 
FFXIII. It's not technically a downgrade but they were showing bullshots at the very start:

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rashbeep said:
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Again, not a big deal when compared to the stuff mentioned here, but it did bug me when the game was released. What was a bigger deal to me was how the cloak mode was changed visually in the final build, but that's a different story.
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I'm not sure the old trees necessarily look better, more different. The final tree model is denser, more compact. The trunk is still the same though. That second picture makes it look horrid. Not a particularly flattering screenshot.

I can't disagree though with the removal of the waves posted by the other user. I guess they didn't finish that effect and had to take it out.
 
gtrunner said:
almost nothing pointed out in this thread would spoil the plot of any game that people are posting.

look at colonial marines, the same scenes are happening but there is just a huge drop in detail.
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He means the difference in character models between the two versions. What Drake and Sully are wearing and even Cutter being in the shot.

I never really understand the UC3 image being shown. It doesn't seem really indicative of any true downgrade, maybe aesthetically and through tone but seeing as it's a pre-recorded cutscene it just doesn't hold much water to me seeing as there's no reason to downgrade it.

Are there any actual downgrades in gameplay footage shown?
 
A lot of people in this thread seem to be mistaking technical downgrades with artistic downgrades.

Most of the examples I'm seeing (especially with UC3) are changes made to the lighting. That said, I can't imagine why lighting changed so drastically with these cut scenes..
 
Deep Down
I don't care what kind of lies you try to tell others and yourself here about it. I don't buy it. It's a HUGE difference
Just right down false advertising. Fucking disgusting.

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BigDaddyFatSack said:
Deep Down
I don't care what kind of lies you try to tell others and yourself here about it. I don't buy it. It's a HUGE difference


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First one was really obviously a more single player focused story and was demod on PC hardware. Its downgrade makes sense given the game's direction change and also hardware in the PS4 obviously not being up to snuff with GTX680 equivalent stuff.
 
Dictator93 said:
First one was really obviously a more single player focused story and was demod on PC hardware. Its downgrade makes sense given the game's direction change and also hardware in the PS4 obviously not being up to snuff with GTX680 equivalent stuff.
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Uh? How? Shouldn't be quite close?
 
Dictator93 said:
First one was really obviously a more single player focused story and was demod on PC hardware. Its downgrade makes sense given the game's direction change and also hardware in the PS4 obviously not being up to snuff with GTX680 equivalent stuff.
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There's an actual real-time Panta Rhei tech demo that showcases the flame effect. It was no where near the first reveal's graphics. What's fucking disgusting is that Capcom claimed that the first reveal demo was running real-time on PS4, which is NOT FUCKING CLOSE TO BEING TRUE.
 
sirap said:
A lot of people in this thread seem to be mistaking technical downgrades with artistic downgrades.

Most of the examples I'm seeing (especially with UC3) are changes made to the lighting. That said, I can't imagine why lighting changed so drastically with these cut scenes..
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lightning change is due to time of. People who are complaining about u3 or tlou should go back and play it
 
AJanitor said:
I'm sorry, I can't help it, not trying to be a dick but ... this isn't a real word.
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No worries, but the Merriam Webster does not agree with you.

Definition of IRREGARDLESS
nonstandard
: regardless
Usage Discussion of IRREGARDLESS
Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.
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Matter of preference it seems. Not that I have one, but still.
 
BigTnaples said:
No worries, but the Merriam Webster does not agree with you.

Definition of IRREGARDLESS
nonstandard
: regardless
Usage Discussion of IRREGARDLESS
Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.
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Touché. My wording was bad, it's not commonly accepted as a word to be used:
Irregardless is a word commonly used in place of regardless or irrespective, which has caused controversy since the early twentieth century, though the word appeared in print as early as 1795.[1] Most dictionaries[citation needed] list it as "nonstandard" or "incorrect".
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Normally "regardless" is seen as correct and seen as carrying the same connotation. Regardless means "without regard" the "ir-" is therefore redundant.
 
AJanitor said:
Touché. My wording was bad, it's not commonly accepted as a word to be used:

Normally "regardless" is seen as correct and seen as carrying the same connotation. Regardless means "without regard" the "ir-" is therefore redundant.
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Fair enough, and I agree with the reasoning, just an old habit. :p
 
gtrunner said:
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this is one of the major reasons why the gaming industry isn't taken seriously.
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I don't think you have a clue how game development works... the last thing the game goes through is optimization, polishing and bug-testing. It's only when things come together is when they realize, okay, this is what we have and now we need to get it all working at our target framerate.

There's some in this thread where you go, yeah they definitely lied to us. Whereas some you can see and go, okay, they tuned it down because they couldn't get it running as well. I have no issue with the latter.
 
gtrunner said:
uncharted 3
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this is one of the major reasons why the gaming industry isn't taken seriously.
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The model was somewhat downgraded but from the looks of what's outside the window they changed the location of where this scene took place anyways. That probably changed their lighting decision as well.

ULTROS! said:
FFXIII. It's not technically a downgrade but they were showing bullshots at the very start:

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To be honest that seems like they went from prerendered but real-time engine models to a real time cutscene. FFXIII had many scenes that went shifted from the three different types of cutscenes that they had: real time, real time pre-recorded and CGI.
 
SSReborn said:
Those specific spots look exactly like that in the game.
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Yes, that specific part looked worse than in the reveal. But the overall graphics from the game look just as good as in the E3 build

This one is taken from the retail game and looks as good as any of the "E3 build" ones:

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I think the idea of the thread was to talk about games that as a whole got a big downgrade from the oiriginal release, not just one particular scene.

I've seen those pics you posted on countless forums posted as some sort of "proof" that the game looks like crap and nothing like what was promised, when it fact it does

gtrunner said:
the problem with the debunking is that there is more than one image.

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I don't get it.

Which one is from pre release?

Other than clothing and some cammera agles I don't see anything I would call a downgrade
 
I think Crysis was BS as well. When they showed it nobody had a system that could run it, then years later they finally release it very few people could run it, and it didn't look like what they showed. Years later you still have people claiming it was some holy grail of graphics for the PC from 2006. Well, I guess if by 2010 you can finally run the game more power to you.
 
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