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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 5: Yarning for Yoshi
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Punchy4486
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I guess if you consider Pikachu and Jigglypuff the protagonists of Pokemon...
theprodigy
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So Tom Nook is now the face of Animal Crossing?
Obviously the Pokémon Trainer wasn't possible on the N64. There are no technical limitations preventing the Villager from being the Animal Crossing rep.
Oooh, I like that, and then for his final smash, you spend all the bells you've accumulated and just make it rain over the rest of the cast
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Your comment is pretty much right on Sakurai's comments on stages however I can't really see Pikmin's Garden of Hope in 3DS version. I'm pretty sure that they are going to pick other Pikmin location for 3DS version.
I bolded specific statement. I don't see why you would use Palutena's Temple as your example since it already exists in Kid Icarus (NES). Yeah, I know your excuse is more likely to due with Palutena's Temple's visual and map are coming straight from Uprising but still. The Kid Icarus universe's visuals and worlds evolved over the generations. Of course, Sakurai would go with the latest version in the series for visual aspects.
I have a feeling that Sakurai picked Palutena's Temple because it existed in Kid Icarus, but followed Uprising's upgraded visuals.
Ipsoclipso
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It would be funny if Sakurai's reveals Yoshi right after Heath make a new thread. ^o^
I doubt it though.
I doubt it though.
Well, in a way, they kind of are. Sure, you, the player, take the role of the Trainer, but you also command your Pokémon; they do the fighting for you, and you directly control them. It's the Pokémon that are the real stars of the game. Of course, the Pokémon/Trainer relationship is very important, and it has been represented now in Smash Bros. with Pokémon Trainer. But still, it's not quite the same situation as Animal Crossing. Pikachu has at least been a playable protagonist in Pokémon games since before Smash Bros. was existed (Hey You, Pikachu!). Tom Nook has never been playable, and likely never will be. It's the human Villager who has always been the protagonist.
I didn't mention Pikmin, and I do think we'll probably get some kind of different Pikmin stage on the 3DS, but you never know.
And Palutena's Temple really didn't exist officially before Kid Icarus: Uprising. The Palace in the Sky from the first two Kid Icarus games may arguably be the same location, but it's never specifically stated as such, and the Palutena's Temple stage is clearly taken straight out of Kid Icarus: Uprising. But it could go either way, I suppose. I can see how Sakurai may be representing the Palace in the Sky area from the NES game with updated visuals, much like the Skyword stage in Brawl. I wonder if the
Chaos Kin
Shadow Hog
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He's certainly one of the most prominent.
RomanceDawn
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You know what would be cool? If just after the game is released Sakurai starts revealing spoilers through some of the very first, seemingly nonsensical pic of the days.
Like the Luigi's nose pic is fully zoomed out to reveal someone like Little Mac was there the whole time. Or Kirby as Samus' head pic has Ridley in it. It would be kind of fun if he gave commentary on pics of the day regarding Miiverse reactions and his motives behind some of the more cryptic ones.
Like the Luigi's nose pic is fully zoomed out to reveal someone like Little Mac was there the whole time. Or Kirby as Samus' head pic has Ridley in it. It would be kind of fun if he gave commentary on pics of the day regarding Miiverse reactions and his motives behind some of the more cryptic ones.
Beelzebufo
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He's one of the few characters you're guaranteed to meet the same way in every play through, unlike KK, who's admitedly a possibility as well.
Regardless of if he should be playable, I wouldn't be surprised if we got him. He was definitely hinted at, it's a popular series, we haven't seen him yet otherwise, and we've gotten characters like Lucas, Roy, and Wolf in the past.
What do they have to do with Tom Nook? Lucas and Roy are the main characters from their respective games, and Wolf is Fox's recurring rival (who's also playable in multiplayer mode). Tom Nook is just a townsperson NPC. The genre/structure of Animal Crossing just doesn't lend itself to a playable Smash Bros. character outside of the Villager. The games don't have a "plot," and none of the other characters matter much.
Beelzebufo
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Roy is the second newcomer for a new series.
Lucas is a character similar to an already existing character.
Wolf is a secondary character, like Tom Nook. I'd argue Tom Nook is much more important to his series than wolf as well.
The rule for making the case for any playable character:
Do not use existing characters in the roster as a point for the character you're trying to make a case for. Each character has a different case. Each character has its own circumstances.
Do not use existing characters in the roster as a point for the character you're trying to make a case for. Each character has a different case. Each character has its own circumstances.
And make sure you're not trying to argue for Goku or Batman or the like, then you're crazy.
peanutbutterlatte
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Tom Nook is definitely the most recognizable non-human character of AC. And half the game is about the animals of course. To say he's not as respectively important as Wolf is sorta laughable to be honest. I'm not saying he'll be in, but c'mon. When I think Animal Crossing, I think the greedy bastard raccoon.
Eh... AC is a big series for Nintendo now and if another character got in it would be Nook. I don't think it would be that surprising. He does have a backstory and is part of the main driving factor in the game. He is a secondary/non-playable character but that doesn't rule him out I think.
And he is more recognizable than Wolf I would say. Sakurai has thrown plenty of curveballs in the past so you can't really say what he'll make of the possibility of another AC character.
If this were melee, I'd say he'd be a fine villager clone. I think sakurai has grown up a bit since then and realized that slapping someone else's moves onto someone else might make them feel a bit out of character. I think it'd be really hard to make a full moveset for him, though.
Also, now that I think about it, I don't even want to imagine what captain falcon would be like if he werent in the last 3 smash games. He'd be up there with little mac for 'most requested character' i'm sure, but I couldnt even begin to comprehend what his moveset would be like if sakurai had to build him from the ground up now.
If they made it so that the gamepad touch screen could control/fling the birds, then I'd probably main him
Beelzebufo
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Yeah, that and we haven't seen him yet otherwise.I think this is probably the best evidence in favor of Tom Nook, from the very first trailer:
Could also just be hinting toward him being an assist trophy.
Beelzebufo
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Or to hint at Tom Nook being a playable character.
peanutbutterlatte
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*CGI cutscene of a Coin Match with 3 players*
*Villager is winning, does a victory taunt*
*Suddenly, a random piece of furniture hits him from the side, coins fly everywhere*
*TOM NOOK is COLLECTING DEBTS*
*Featuring a remix of this catchy piece of funk*
*"See you soon! Yes yes!"*
I would just love some more 3DS footage to be honest. How amazing it looks has led cynical ol' me to be a little skeptical of how well it'll run.
Yeah, it looks really good graphically.
Such as the SM3DL stage, the full moving stage, animated background, four players, it all makes me wonder how it'll actually run.
I'm really intrigued..
Stuff like this looks SO good, I just wonder how it'll actually perform.
Red Arremer
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What if we got Superman instead of Batman?
Yeah, it looks really good graphically.
Such as the SM3DL stage, the full moving stage, animated background, four players, it all makes me wonder how it'll actually run.
I'm really intrigued..
Stuff like this looks SO good, I just wonder how it'll actually perform.
Huh...never noticed that bowser was sent flying by mario's dash attack. Tho the damage % is missing, i wonder was it buffed.
theprodigy
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Bowser pls, why are you falling so slowly
Poltergust
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Because he's not fast-falling? Bowser has always been relatively floaty, otherwise his recovery would be even worse than it already is.
Brawl physics and speed confirmed
theprodigy
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Bowser's definitely been in the middle of the cast in falling speed, even if he's technically closer to the Puffs of the world as opposed to Fox/Falcon/Falco/etc.
Benzychenz
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Honestly, I'd be ok with Villager, Tom Nook and KK all being playable characters.
Animal Crossing is what, Nintendo's third best selling franchise behind Mario and Pokemon? Definitely deserves three characters.
Animal Crossing is what, Nintendo's third best selling franchise behind Mario and Pokemon? Definitely deserves three characters.
User 73706
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Momentum doesn't cancel out when air-dodging? game is crap confirmed, hitstun was removed, nothing but ganondorf starts, all characters awful, all six preorders canceled
Nah, it's not quite that high. I think Mario, Pokémon, Wii Sports, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Wii Fit, Brain Age, Kirby, and Nintendogs have all sold more than Animal Crossing.
InvincibleAgent
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Where are we getting this info
Here. A lot of them are sourced at the bottom. Animal Crossing's sales figures are out of date, but even after adding City Folk and New Leaf, the series is still way below the others.
The figures aren't perfectly accurate, but that's really all we have to go by.
Benzychenz
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Well obviously something like Kirby with 20 games will outsell Animal Crossing's 4.
I'm talking about a per game basis, New Leaf released in Japan and decimated the sales of everything that came before it. I remember the 'race to 2m' graphs from the sales threads, everything was slowly going up then New Leaf was basically a straight line up from 0 to 2 million.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Yeah, it looks really good graphically.
Such as the SM3DL stage, the full moving stage, animated background, four players, it all makes me wonder how it'll actually run.
I'm really intrigued..
Stuff like this looks SO good, I just wonder how it'll actually perform.
3DS = Brawl
Wii U = New
Seems like it might end up like that.
That doesn't mean it's "Nintendo's third best selling franchise behind Mario and Pokémon," though. That kind of language implies lifetime sales. New Leaf sold/is selling well, but that doesn't automatically bump the series to third place. Even on an arbitrary per-game basis, Animal Crossing is still behind series like Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Brain Age, and Nintendogs. Those series have each sold more than Animal Crossing between even fewer entries.
Wait, how on Earth has Metroid sold 17 million copies by 2008?
Not that I'm mad about that. It's just I was always under the impression that other than the original and Prime the series didn't sell.
They're obviously iterating on things still, this GIF is from last year's E3 and is the only video footage we currently have of that version. Doesn't mean much until we can see more.
Boss Doggie
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In the Little Mac trailer we see WFT air dodge and didn't lose momentum.
Somehow I am reminded of another character who has similar affinity on money. It can't be Scrooge though.
Nook would be hilarious if he has that mechanic and uses furniture/wallpaper/carpet for attacks... and maybe summoning a house from the air as a final smash.
I thought his grab move was the net?
Somehow I am reminded of another character who has similar affinity on money. It can't be Scrooge though.
Nook would be hilarious if he has that mechanic and uses furniture/wallpaper/carpet for attacks... and maybe summoning a house from the air as a final smash.
I thought his grab move was the net?
Masked Man
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I think this is the first time I've ever seen NOA do an open response.
Likewise. The sooner we can get some news, the better!
It is. I think the only Villager moves we don't know about yet are his neutral air, forward air (likely just a forward slingshot), and Final Smash.