ThatGayWolf
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Dark Souls gonna teach you to look before you stick your hand in the box.
Seriously though, give every single chest a smack before you open it.
Dark Souls II |OT2| Prepare to Vengarl
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Dark Souls gonna teach you to look before you stick your hand in the box.
Did the mimic kill you twice? How'd you lose your souls? Can't you go collect them back?
You didn't hit it once to check?
Yeah, really... fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
I usually do that but I hit one in NMW and it broke in 1 hit....???
See, I knew about the
water helping you walk over water thing but I can't get that specific pool to do anything useful and died a few times because of it. It seems like you lose your 'wet' status if you roll?
I ended up having to backtrack all the way to the vases in that area near Magerold, by the illusory walls.
I ended up having to backtrack all the way to the vases in that area near Magerold, by the illusory walls.
Maybe enemies hit it a couple of times before you. They generally seem to survive three hits.
Impossible, none of them should break in one hit.
Those sneaky bastards.... I hope it wasn't anything good.
I've had chests withstand hits from a greatclub so that's strange.
Just switch to bare fists or a chime/pyro glove.
Or better yet, if you see bloodstains of dudes being chomped on...throw a Lloyd's Talisman at the chest. The cat sells em.
I was like "shit a monster on a chair" and attacked him 3 times, lol. yeah, that was stupid.
I see, thanks.
is there even a point in dual-wielding? For pvp or pve, it doesn't really seem worth it, I had less problems with just one sword and a shield.
They're not really key holes. :3
ThatGayWolf
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Yeah, only base damage
But would it scale that much though? For example, i use a Halberd +10, and it has a base damage of 402 and +31 (i guess this is for scaling). If i infuse my weapon (except for Rawstone), the basedamage goes down to 245 (and 350 with Enchated and 175 with Mundane). However, if i infuse the weapon with Magic for example, the magic damage goes from 0 to 245. Then i will do more damage to the enemies that are weak to magic attacks, but i would do less damage if they arent weak to magic. I believe that is the idea with infusing, to make your weapon stronger against certain enemies and bosses.
Shoot it with a wooden arrow instead.
J-Roderton
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I upgraded my ultra greatsword a bit, I think to plus 4 or so. Wish I had done it for the bastard sword. I gotta track down some titanite.
i have to make my way through a pretty shitty area to get to a merchant who left an earlier level after I talked to him. Gonna be annoying.
ThatGayWolf
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Also: +10 mastodon greatsword, 40 str, 20 dex = 420 damage
420 praise it cleric GO
theSlacker
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Its up to the player if he/she wants to explore more of the area between those points. It is the exact same situation in Dark Souls 1 as well. In Dark Souls 1, you can simply ignore a lot of exploring and just go from bonfire to bonfire. The only difference between Dark Souls 1 and 2 in this regards is that in DS2 you simply dont have to run manually between these points/bonfires once you have found them, and it saves a lot of time. The only difference is that you're at bigger chance of dying in Dark Souls 1 because you have to manually run between the bonfires to begin with, but you can do that in Dark Souls 2 as well if you want
Yes, you just explained why it is worse off as a design choice for the game. Most people will pick the easiest and fastest way if provided. Sometimes you have to force them to do something to get them to enjoy it or for it to provide the proper impact. The warp in DS1 for instance had a sense of worth and scale to it since you lived though the game without it for so long. You knew the value since you lived without it.
Don't want this to come off as me being down on the game, I am loving the fuck out of it. Just the world and areas sufferer compared to DS1 because of this.
theSlacker
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The bastard sword isn't worth it. It is the lowest of the normal greatswords and it's move set isn't that great. Get something like the claymore if you want to upgrade it as it has the great R2 one handed thrust. It's followup isn't as good as the Drangleic Sword's, but it is still better then the bastard sword, and easily upgradable.
Edit: shit double post, meant to edit this into the last one, sorry.
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Fair enough. Personally, i love to explore regardless though. That is a huge part of the Souls games for me, so being able to warp faster in the game is just a positive thing for me. I would explore every area regardless, but now i have to do much less unnecessary running to get where i want to go
EDIT: I can mention that it is possible to take the easiest and fastest way possible in Dark Souls 1 as well. As long as you explore enough to find the next bonfire, you can just move forward and ignore exploring more where you've just been. Its the same in Dark Souls 2 as well, you need to explore enough to find the bonfire. Once you find that, you can choose to explore more or just keep moving forward.
Morrigan Stark
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I got summoned plenty of times yesterday myself. Not sure what everyone is bitching about.
Whaaaaat. One of my favourite areas. I spent hours there, trying to find everything. So many secrets. It's amazingly designed.
Pfft, casul. A bow makes this place trivial. I
Same. The torch makes all the difference there.
Hahahaha yuuuup.
Not necessarily. Sometimes they use the terrain to run off and heal. If it's a duel, that's a shitty thing to do.
I don't believe summoned red signs can use estus. Can they?
Yes, you can. IMO it sucks. Sure, both can heal, but it makes for boring fights. If there was a limit to, say, 2-3 estus max, then it'd be fine.
The other day I was fighting in the
Brotherhood of Blood arena, and one of the arenas has two floors. We fought on the bridges upstairs, and I had him down to one more hit. He then rolled back fell down, and I heard the chugging sound. I tried to follow with a jumping attack but I missed and was low on stamina so I couldn't punish it. Stamina is very slow to regenerate compared to games like Demon's Souls, and it's harder to punish Estus than to punish grass, especially with poise.
Invasions != duelsThat's how every invasion in DS1 has ever gone for me.
Or you don't pick the master key on your first playthrough....
What's the best great sword or ultra great sword in your opinion? I haven't really tried them but have the STR.
ThatGayWolf
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Fair enough. Personally, i love to explore regardless though. That is a huge part of the Souls games for me, so being able to warp faster in the game is just a positive thing for me. I would explore every area regardless, but now i have to do much less unnecessary running to get where i want to go
Fully in agreement with this. People who want to explore will, people who don't won't, regardless of how easy or not it is.
Fully depends on your playstyle. I like the greatsword because I can stay under 70% with it, but you could probably hit harder with a fully upped ultra greatsword, if you like to just get in one hard hit instead of a few small ones.
I think there's some validity in that, but I think the bigger issue is the areas themselves feeling small, quick, and disconnected. Having warp from the beginning is a net positive to me, though I do recognize the negative effects.
A Sentient Keyboard
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Since I'm enjoying coop so much, I'm thinking of taking away most of my 40 DEX and putting it in tanky stats like vigor, endurance (for blocking) and vitality (for big ass shields). Then, putting on that aggro ring the cat sells. Basically, draw attention from NPCs and keep them busy while my host shells them with magic/arrows and/or backstabs them. Does this sound like a good idea?
Incendiary
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So here's my question: My planned build will have me at 40 for both Dex and Int and right now I'm running with a Falchion +10 and casting Magic Weapon on it. Is it better for me to infuse it with Magic and free up the spell slot? Or do I get a better bonus via straight Dex + the spell? Also if I infuse it with Fire or something instead, will Magic Weapon stack on top of that?
ThatGayWolf
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Sounds like it could be fun, I know i love when my summon tanks for me.
Haven't played with that but my educated guess is that magic weapon on the +10 unimbued weapon probably is better.
Why, you can respec with a Soul Vessel.
Made it fairly far into the game, but not very far at all at the same time. I've been to several areas, fought several bosses, and my guy is fairly strong, but I only have one of the main 4 boss souls:
I think the layout of the world is interesting for the most part. And the warping system is important to have given the way the world spreads out from Majula, but doesn't really fold back in on itself like DS1. That said, I like that it is different in form from DS1. In DS1 you would go in one direction, and because you could warp, you would get to a point where you didn't really feel like you could go back. You'd just keep pushing forward, and usually that would be rewarded with a major boss or a shortcut back to safety. And that was interesting world design. Still is, but I think DS2's world design is interesting too. Whereas in DS1, they sort of encouraged you to focus on one area at a time, DS2 feels like it's encouraging us to focus on many areas at once. Knowing I can always get back home makes me a little braver in my exploration. So far I've been to several areas of the game, and I'd say that I've only really "completed" one of them. I think it's fun to make your way down to No Man's Wharf and then say "Nope! I'll come back to this later." Then you warp out. Then in Majula you realize that the lamp that leads to the contraption is lit, so you go down there, and bam. New area. Then you make your way a little into hunstman's copse, and decide to come back later. Then you make it further into the lost bastille, via The Pursuer's entrance.
It's fun to be able to see so much of the game at once, and know that even though you've seen so many areas, you're nowhere near done with the game.
Lost Sinner.
I think the layout of the world is interesting for the most part. And the warping system is important to have given the way the world spreads out from Majula, but doesn't really fold back in on itself like DS1. That said, I like that it is different in form from DS1. In DS1 you would go in one direction, and because you could warp, you would get to a point where you didn't really feel like you could go back. You'd just keep pushing forward, and usually that would be rewarded with a major boss or a shortcut back to safety. And that was interesting world design. Still is, but I think DS2's world design is interesting too. Whereas in DS1, they sort of encouraged you to focus on one area at a time, DS2 feels like it's encouraging us to focus on many areas at once. Knowing I can always get back home makes me a little braver in my exploration. So far I've been to several areas of the game, and I'd say that I've only really "completed" one of them. I think it's fun to make your way down to No Man's Wharf and then say "Nope! I'll come back to this later." Then you warp out. Then in Majula you realize that the lamp that leads to the contraption is lit, so you go down there, and bam. New area. Then you make your way a little into hunstman's copse, and decide to come back later. Then you make it further into the lost bastille, via The Pursuer's entrance.
It's fun to be able to see so much of the game at once, and know that even though you've seen so many areas, you're nowhere near done with the game.
ThatGayWolf
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I skipped
harvest valley
You mean the one that's a million miles from
the pig that bursts through the wall in the cage room
I had that issue too. At first I thought every path led to that area, and ended up following on to
Sinner's Rise and fighting the Lost Sinner before going down the other paths. After that, the areas leading to the other Great Souls felt mostly easy.
You're actually
in an optional area. But yes, you're at the end of the game.
I did the same with
Sinner's Rise
I actually went into
Drangleic Castle
The one
that's hidden behind an illusory wall. No idea how anyone would know it's there without player messages.
Morrigan Stark
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Ohhhh so that's what happens.
Mine always died or got stuck somewhere behind, so I just left him be. So Adgayne aggros and needs pardoning? I assumed he would, but I wondered if just turning off your torch would make him and his minions calm down. Good thing I didn't try my luck.
What happens if you keep the place dark but attack his minions? Does he aggro too? He's a useful NPC actually, so I'm glad I didn't make him hostile. His armour set is pretty good for light armour, has some of the best elemental and curse resistances.
What happens if you keep the place dark but attack his minions? Does he aggro too? He's a useful NPC actually, so I'm glad I didn't make him hostile. His armour set is pretty good for light armour, has some of the best elemental and curse resistances.
To be honest I don't know how much it really helps. I tried to get the one near that first water pool (close to the Smelter boss room), stacking flash sweat, an orange burr (do they even stack? I'm guessing one takes precedence over the other), fire quartz+1 and highest fire resist and still died. It only worked if I un-hollowed for max HP, then I had that split second more to get the item before dying.
It was a crappy shield. -_- I didn't even try to get the one near the falling platforms.
It was a crappy shield. -_- I didn't even try to get the one near the falling platforms.
Here, let me teach you how to spoiler tag properly. Show some respect to those who aren't that far into the game, geez.
33-Hit-Combo
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What's up with the silent warrior in the Forest of the Giants? He's right at the beginning
How does that work?
theSlacker
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Sorry, I can't really comment on that. I just know for sure that that thursting R2 that some of the greatswords have is way better then the overhead swing the bastard sword has. It comes out really fast and has range. All the two handed attacks for the Drangleic Sword are really bad though, but I just never two hand it. The greatness with that swords particular movset is the specific swing around after the R2 that is able to catch people that rolled anywhere near you, as well as the running attack coming fast and having a wide arc.
Well you have to wounder how much one has to do with other. When making the game if you are planing to just give warp from the beginning you design it differently then if you expect the players to fluidly move back and forth though the world. You wouldn't be able to have the world so disconnected since it really would be a chore to move though. But that isn't something you have to worry about if you design it around being able to teleport right away.
ThatGayWolf
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I think we took opposite paths haha, I banged my head against the
bastille
He wants to fight. He doesn't say it, but he wants to fight.
HIS ARMS ARE SCREAMING AT HIM TO HURT YOU
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