PAL Charts - Week 12, 2014

I know it's "tales from the ass" but given the marketing muscle MS put behind it, even forgetting the amount they paid EA for the exclusivity for a moment, I doubt they are seeing any kind of profit from it.

Doesn't matter

Everyone who bought One for Titanfall = years of future annual Live payments.
 
I've put in more hours so far than I did on the 100% Infamous save and will probably put in more hours overall once I catch up to the extra hours on my second InFamous playthrough. Still hovering around 40% completion.

There's a lot of content there with the extra missions which apparently don't count. Just depends if that content is worth it to you.

What I mean is, do you think that a good amount of the people buying this game will go back multiple times and do all the side stuff, or do you think they will complete the main part then be like, "That's it??" then sell it/trade it in/don't touch it again.

I mean, maybe I'm totally wrong, but I just see a lot of people getting a bit mad/confused(?)
 
What I mean is, do you think that a good amount of the people buying this game will go back multiple times and do all the side stuff, or do you think they will complete the main part then be like, "That's it??".

I mean, maybe I'm totally wrong, but I just see a lot of people getting a bit mad/confused(?)

Someone earlier in the thread said a few people were complaining about the game on HDUK. I do find it very odd that people would spend money without a cursory search though. Hell, I'm browsing shops with my phone out making sure that what I'm buying will be right for me.

Think it might have been better for the image of the game if you had to do the side ops first and then reference the fact that Big Boss has been to that base several times before prior to the Ground Zeroes operation. Eh, it's fun enough for me, but I do hope that there weren't too many confused consumers out there and they were happy with it.

Going to 100% it ASAP so I can get a decent return on it though. Would only have lost £3 if I traded it in now, but I'm still having a lot of fun with it.
 
Sony will have Destiny's marketing, it's basically going to be marketed as a PS4 exclusive in commercials. Same with Watch Dogs. Then they have The Order 1886 which sounds like their big Fall game, having Uncharted there means 2 TPS games in the span of ~2 months which isn't ideal.

But before Destiny and The Order , there is Driveclub.

Sony hasgot this year on lock down, they getting exclusive marketing to the biggest games of the year with watch dogs, destiny, assassins creed, and the new batman.
 
Great sales for Infamous and MGS Ground Zeroes.
Huge drop for Titanfall. The game is clearly falling short of the internal targets of both EA and Microsoft with the former expecting to have a new COD in the their hands, the latter this viral system seller which would turn the fortunes of their console.
 
I'll agree with that. I think the lack of single-player story and/or split-screen isn't helping with that. Game with a decent story? Pass the controller round and all play it through. The split-screen in Gears and Halo were brilliant in a shared house with a lot of visitors. It is a pity this is lost in all but Garden Warfare so far (unless I've missed something).
Yup, and herein lies the problem with TF being a system seller. I'm not one of those people that believes a single game can be a system seller, but clearly someone in the Xbox division does and spent a boatload of cash on securing exclusivity for their platforms for this game. However, TF does not have any of the traditional game modes that sell systems to people. The scenarios you outlined are what sells games and systems to people, playing in the same room together is something that console gaming excells at, and TF gives people no opportunity to playthe experience together since it lacks online co-op or a story mode people can play through together in stages.

The game itself might be excellent, I have not had a lengthy time playing it since I don't have a Bone a d I'm still boycotting Origin. That, however, is not relevant because it doesn't bring people together like other system selling franchises like Wii Sports or Halo's co-op mode.
 
Looking at MGS percentages on all consoles makes me think that FFXV and KH3 percentages will be even more skewed toward PS4, the question is:
Will the sales numbers in XB1 justify the development time/cost for Square Enix?
Because FF and KH are even more of PS franchise than MGS
 
Looking at MGS percentages on all consoles makes me think that FFXV and KH3 percentages will be even more skewed toward PS4, the question is:
Will the sales numbers in XB1 justify the development time/cost for Square Enix?
Because FF and KH are even more of PS franchise than MGS

They are a long way off, so the install base for the X1 will be much larger at that point. The percentage could be very one sided but then they could still sell an extra million or two on the X1 by that point.
 
Looking at MGS percentages on all consoles makes me think that FFXV and KH3 percentages will be even more skewed toward PS4, the question is:
Will the sales numbers in XB1 justify the development time/cost for Square Enix?
Because FF and KH are even more of PS franchise than MGS

Sure it does. Your only looking at the UK market. They will do okay overall sales on XB1.
 
I think he means the TF numbers.

All we know is that it did better than FW 2014 Fifa 14, so it could be higher than 114k.

Yup and looking at that thread and how the numbers were calculated, I think we can just say they had pretty damn close debuts

The Last of Us disproves the theory anyway in terms of the legs it had.
 
Sure it does. Your only looking at the UK market. They will do okay overall sales on XB1.

Truth is percentage wise FF and KH going to favor PS system even more than last gen .
MS going to do worse in EU , Japan is lost cause for them and NA they might be even so numbers wise i don't expect them to even make up 20% for those game .
 
Looking at MGS percentages on all consoles makes me think that FFXV and KH3 percentages will be even more skewed toward PS4, the question is:
Will the sales numbers in XB1 justify the development time/cost for Square Enix?
Because FF and KH are even more of PS franchise than MGS

Final Fantasy splits will be fine. FF13 trilogy was also on Xbox plus the fact that FFXV just like every mainline Final Fantasy is not an actual sequel.

Kingdom Hearts is my personal biggest question mark. HD Remasters being PS3 exclusive make no sense when they want to sell KH3 on the XB1. Who the hell is gonna jump in on the series with Kingdom Hearts 3 on XB1? The reasoning behind KH is probably based on the fact that KH's strongest territory is America where Xbox is (or was we will have to wait about that a little longer) the biggest player.
 
Sure it does. Your only looking at the UK market. They will do okay overall sales on XB1.

I dunno about that.

They tried getting the series to take off on Xbox with XIII and exclusive marketing with Microsoft. Even with that it outsold the 360 version roughly 5:1 on PS3 WW.

In NA I recall around something like 900k PS3 and 400k 360 launch month despite the 360 install base being substantially higher and in the UK it was 50:50. Both series are still are still heavily tied with PlayStation.

No XHD or KH HD games on 360 and now you have the PS4 dominating in the only two markets in which Xbox had control. If anything the platform ratio split will only increase if things remain as they are.
 
Sony isn't relying on one game to move systems, so I don't understand why they need a massive holiday first party game. Destiny alone is going to carry ps4 this holiday.
 
Sony hasgot this year on lock down, they getting exclusive marketing to the biggest games of the year with watch dogs, destiny, assassins creed, and the new batman.

Assassins creed and Batman too? Damn. I wonder why MS is sitting still and letting these games get recognized as PS4 games. CoD is a franchise in decline and no matter how much they show off Xbox Fifa, it's a Euro game, and Europe already decided what console to get.
 

EA’s ‘Titanfall’ lands at No1 on Xbox One and PC becoming the big release of 2014 so far.

It also means EA now hold the two leading No1 titles by sales for the year. Titanfall more than doubles the sales of what had been 2014’s current leader FIFA 14, which until now had delivered the highest sales for an All Formats No1 back in Week 1 of this year.

Week 1, 2014

FIFA 14 (-48%) - 62,210
Call of Duty: Ghosts (-55%) - 52,935
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag (-50%) - 49,128
Battlefield 4
Grand Theft Auto 5 (-64%) - 28,358

I think he's basing it on this, but XBO sales only account for 94% so 116k minimum.
 
Sony isn't relying on one game to move systems, so I don't understand why they need a massive holiday first party game. Destiny alone is going to carry ps4 this holiday.
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The hype for Destiny is unbelievable


A lot of people are getting the PS4 version of the game believing that it is the safest bet with the beta access and the whole res fiasco



Multiplats are that extra comfort that the PS4 can relay on


WD, AC, Batman are likely also going to lead on the PS4
 
Do we know how well second son sold unit wise vs infamous 1 and 2? Would be nice of the franchise made some growth moving to ps4.
 
If you base Titanfall on a minimum of 124k then ISS is at 62kminimum.

Not sure what the UK figures are for PS4 sales so maybe if someone can get that we can better examine it, as ISS sales are 1/9th of that,

No HW data that I´m aware of, but the 62k min should be comparable to I1 and I2, right?
 
Maybe some numbers can be extrapolated from here.

Hmm...

TF: 125k+ first week, 94% XB1 = 117k
-73% second week = 32k

That would mean 600k XB1 in the UK?

Was at 364k LTD at the end of 2013. Seems like a huge number.

The PS4 was at 530k. IF inFAMOUS sold 62k tops, that means 560k.
Something doesn't add up.

Maybe inFAMOUS week 1 sold half of TF week 1+2. That would make more sense.
 
Hmm...

TF: 125k+ first week, 94% XB1 = 117k
-73% second week = 32k

That would mean 600k XB1 in the UK?

Was at 364k LTD at the end of 2013. Seems like a huge number.

The PS4 was at 530k. IF inFAMOUS sold 62k tops, that means 560k.
Something doesn't add up.

Maybe inFAMOUS week 1 sold half of TF week 1+2. That would make more sense.

Well, the 125k+ could also mean a lot more than that. We don´t really have an upper ceiling, right?
Oh, and they explicitly state, that its TF first week only.
 
Hmm...

TF: 125k+ first week, 94% XB1 = 117k
-73% second week = 32k

That would mean 600k XB1 in the UK?

Was at 364k LTD at the end of 2013. Seems like a huge number.

The PS4 was at 530k. IF inFAMOUS sold 62k tops, that means 560k.
Something doesn't add up.

Maybe inFAMOUS week 1 sold half of TF week 1+2. That would make more sense.
The key word about the Titanfall doubles inFAMOUS is that it is only about one retail... "MCV has also been told by a trusted retail source that Titanfall sold just under double the amount of units its first week than InFamous managed in its debut week"
 
Hmm...

TF: 125k+ first week, 94% XB1 = 117k
-73% second week = 32k

That would mean 600k XB1 in the UK?

Was at 364k LTD at the end of 2013. Seems like a huge number.

The PS4 was at 530k. IF inFAMOUS sold 62k tops, that means 560k.
Something doesn't add up.

Maybe inFAMOUS week 1 sold half of TF week 1+2. That would make more sense.

I'm assuming the 1 in 4 and 1 in 9 is related purely to first week sales only so maybe 462k XBO and 560k PS4

edit - or maybe this guys i right

The key word about the Titanfall doubles inFAMOUS is that it is only about one retail... "MCV has also been told by a trusted retail source that Titanfall sold just under double the amount of units its first week than InFamous managed in its debut week"
 
Using only the 2013 numbers...

PS4 sold 530k... so minimum ~59k units of inFAMOUS
Xbone sold 364k... so minimum ~91k units of Titanfall

That's close to 2:1.
 
But we know TF XB1 >117k.
You need to add 2014 numbers... I don't have them....

Eg. if Xbone sold 100k more units in 2014... that's means ~116k Titanfall sold using the 4:1.

I guess PS4 is close to 700k LTD and Xbone close to 500k LTD in UK.
 
Someone earlier in the thread said a few people were complaining about the game on HDUK. I do find it very odd that people would spend money without a cursory search though. Hell, I'm browsing shops with my phone out making sure that what I'm buying will be right for me.

Think it might have been better for the image of the game if you had to do the side ops first and then reference the fact that Big Boss has been to that base several times before prior to the Ground Zeroes operation. Eh, it's fun enough for me, but I do hope that there weren't too many confused consumers out there and they were happy with it.

Going to 100% it ASAP so I can get a decent return on it though. Would only have lost £3 if I traded it in now, but I'm still having a lot of fun with it.

I too wonder why people don't do research, I'm always on my phone in the store, seeing if I can get something at a cheaper price elsewhere, checking the reviews for this game I've never heard of, ect. Unfortunately, working at Target, I see people buy stuff on a whim very often, especially for things that have that "big name" or recognition. My friend bought a PS4 and has stated multiple times that he regrets it and only bought it because it was hyped up and everyone he talked to said to get it...he only plays NBA on it, complains all the other games suck. Wouldn't even download some of the free games on PS+ because they "look/sound boring". Boggles the mind, lol.

I imagine stuff like that happens with titles like MGS:GZ. People recognize the name, see it at a cheap price, on the new shiny system they just bought, and want something new to play. They buy it, beat the main mission super quick, then are like, "this is it????". Game disgarded, never to be played again, might even turn them off of a sale of Phantom Pain if they just assume that game will be the same thing.
 
You need to add 2014 numbers... I don't have them....

Eg. if Xbone sold 100k more units in 2014... that's means ~116k Titanfall sold using the 4:1.

Wouldn´t it make more sense, if we do it the other way around?

- If the 1:4 quote means week1 one only, we´d look at >117k TF XB1, so >468k XB1 sold
- If the 1:4 quote means TF XB1 LTD, we´d look at >149k TF XB1, so >596k XB1 sold

- If we accept 117k TF XB1 first week, we´d look at ~60k ISS PS4
- If we extrapolate that with the 1:9 ratio, we end up at ~540k PS4

As we know no upper ceiling for TF XB1 first week, its hard to get closer to the truth. But I think if XB1 has outsold PS4 in the UK, we´d heard. So we can at least take, that the 1:4 ratio means week1 only for TF XB1.
 
I can recall several posts recently saying that Infamous alone wouldn't be enough to unseat Titanfall, but combined MGSV GZ sales might be... yet not only does Infamous take the top, but PS4 MGS takes the number 2 spot as well. God damn.
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I half expected Ground Zeroes to be number one across four formats this week but a higher % than usual must have downloaded it even though it can't be traded back.

Promising that GZ did such a high % on PS4 despite attention split with Second Son as well.
 
The key word about the Titanfall doubles inFAMOUS is that it is only about one retail... "MCV has also been told by a trusted retail source that Titanfall sold just under double the amount of units its first week than InFamous managed in its debut week"

But that doesn't make any sense when talking about country wide sales. It makes the whole statement pointless when included in the article and misleading to boot unless the insider had nationwide sales figures.
 
I think DS2 drop is worse. First week, It didn't sell that well (<45k). 2nd week sales, dropped by 71% (<13.1K).

Source

This saddens me.

Titanfall drop doesn't seem unusually high in relation to past games of the type. Will have to wait until next week to start discussing the legs of the title

I suppose if the bundled copies in XB1 TF bundles get counted it might be a bit unusual a drop as the majority of XB1 hardware is most certainly going to be that SKU with TF in the bundle?

Wonder if Infamous will have a bigger drop
 
Well, the 125k+ could also mean a lot more than that. We don´t really have an upper ceiling, right?
Oh, and they explicitly state, that its TF first week only.

The key word about the Titanfall doubles inFAMOUS is that it is only about one retail... "MCV has also been told by a trusted retail source that Titanfall sold just under double the amount of units its first week than InFamous managed in its debut week"

I'm assuming the 1 in 4 and 1 in 9 is related purely to first week sales only so maybe 462k XBO and 560k PS4

edit - or maybe this guys i right

Well, either way, both informations don't add up at all. There's no way the PS4 sold 30k in 2014, while the XB1 almost doubled its 2013 sales.
 
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