I can't see KH3 doing that well on XB1. There hasn't been a KH game at all on a Xbox console so there's not much of a fanbase outside of people who had PS2 (or PS3) but went with XB1 as opposed to PS4.
PAL Charts - Week 12, 2014
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I can't see KH3 doing that well on XB1. There hasn't been a KH game at all on a Xbox console so there's not much of a fanbase outside of people who had PS2 (or PS3) but went with XB1 as opposed to PS4.
ethomaz
Banned
PS4 sold close to 540k units in 2013 alone...... why 117k Titanfall means 60k inFAMOUS?
The Xbone sales seems to be right... close to 500k LTD but I guess PS4 sold right now close to 700k because it only get outsold by Xbone in the last four weeks in UK... since January until late February PS4 was outselling Xbone in UK.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Precisely what are you extrapolating from those numbers. If your doing what I think your doing aren't you assuming every unit of Titanfall sold was from the XB1 bundle. You can't extrapolate XB1 numbers from Titanfall. Not from the information provided.
No, I'm not. This is coming from multiple articles from MCVwhich state :
1/4 XB1 owners bought TF
1/9 PS4 owners bought ISS
TF first week first was 125k+ (XB1+PC but the latter was 6%)
TF first week = 2x ISS first week.
Makes 0 sense, considering we know that 2013 LTD figures were 530k (PS4) and 360k (XB1)
Sony seems happy
https://twitter.com/PlayStationUK/status/448141909983121408
https://twitter.com/PlayStationUK/status/448141909983121408
Miles Quaritch
Member
It's pretty simply, I expected to see PS4 games climbing in the charts instead of falling due to the number of new PS4 owners, just as I expected to see X1 software rise last week due to the number of new owners.
It didn't happen either week, that's surprising to me.
TechnicPuppet
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So the XB1 has outsold the PS4 in the UK then?
Yeah, by a factor of 20:1 at least.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
20k you mean?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That's what I suspect as well. Otherwise every big game launch gets numbers immediately just to drum the chest.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
It didn't say week 1 sales for TF. Add week 2 no?
ultratruman
Banned
What? Because Titanfall sold more in its first week?
SwiftDeath
Member
We don't know if those ratios are from a small data set [aka that one retail source/chain] or the whole country.
It could be very much like taking the US amazon charts as how consoles are selling.
Unless I'm mistaken your numbers suggest that PS4 has only sold 10K units in the UK in like 3 months? That's crazy talk
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That'd slightly skewer XB1 not massive change. Doesn't explain 30k. Also half was just first week.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
What? You mean just in the last couple weeks?
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
Yeah, it sure did.
Going by those numbers, I think it's safe to say TF sold substantially over the 125k minimum. It's the only way to make the PS4 LTD add up. There's no way it has only sold 540k.
Dead Prince
Banned
4 weeks in the row until now. lets make it 5.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
I see where the 30k is coming from now that 1 in 9 sounds dodgy as hell or Infamous selling half is. Either that or PS4 is ridiculously supply constrained which doesn't make sense.
Could just be the error margin in numbers though since XB1 only sold around 100k more anyway.
Say it was 70k for infamous that'd make it, 630. It's probably the difference in numbers themselves.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
double post.
So you're saying the PS4's 2014 YTP figure is 10k or so?
Yeah, sounds legit.
No. Just messing aorund because I think your quesiton is a bit weird. There's no way the XB1 outsold the PS4 LTD in the UK.
ethomaz
Banned
Or the "just under double" is about "a trusted retail source".
SwiftDeath
Member
Maybe, I'm of the mind that the statements made in that article may in fact not be representative of the entire UK market but were simply one retailers take on it.
The lack of numbers to work from always complicate matters
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Error margins is the most likely issue. A 10k difference leads to 90k hardware. We don't know infamous' number. Multiply the source multiples the margin.
All we know is infamous sold more than half Titanfall, by what degree is extremely important using this maths.
Panzerkrei
Banned
Beanie invasion!
Glad to see InFamous hit no.1, I just hope it has the legs to remain there for some time.
I expect to see some serious sales figures, when I was picking up my copy everyone at the tills was buying InFamous and most of the people in the queue behind me.
Glad to see InFamous hit no.1, I just hope it has the legs to remain there for some time.
I expect to see some serious sales figures, when I was picking up my copy everyone at the tills was buying InFamous and most of the people in the queue behind me.
TechnicPuppet
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No in total. That's what the article says if you look at the numbers behind it.
From their multiple articles, MCV states that ISS sold 62k max.
So they're likely way off somewhere.
ethomaz
Banned
62k mininum.
"just under double" means that ISS sold more than half of Titanfall.... if Titanfall sold 122k in first week then ISS sold a minimum of 62k.
SwiftDeath
Member
Are you referring to the Titanfall and Infamous attach rates that suggest PS4 has only sold 10K units in 3 months in the UK? Those numbers?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Didn't it say it sold more than half, that doesn't imply a max outside of 125k or whatever.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
Man we're in 2014 and yet we need some crazy math discussion to figure out 2 games and 2 consoles sales
Majmun
Member
Lol, no way the XO has outsold Ps4 LTD in UK. It's just week on week basis.
TechnicPuppet
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28k is it not? Are MCV now wrong as well because people don't want to believe what they are saying?
That's a weird way to phrase it then, if it turns out ISS sold 70k or something.
ethomaz
Banned
Last week MCV said UK in under PS4 control... so PS4 is number 1 yet and sold more hardware this week again.
Xbone sold in 2014 only 4 weeks more units than PS4.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Whoa in total? Really!? That is so impressive are we sure about that?
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
The article says the XB1 is now in the lead. If people don't believe them fine but that's what it says.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It's not 28k with the amount of accuracy this data has we can't remotely assume that level of accuracy in interpretations.
We're dealing in the devils in error margin all quotes should be taken with massive grains of salt without more information. We're multiplying our errors here, it's a very dangerous thing to do.
ethomaz
Banned
Yeap... under double means that TF < 2x ISS... if TF sold 122k then ISS needs to sold over 61k (double = 122k) to be accurate.... so 65k, 70k, 75k, 80k etc can all be true.
You'd see 4500 tweets from AP/MN/AG if this were true.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Well for some reason no one believes MCV any more so no.
ethomaz
Banned
Where?
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
So last week we had this, after the fourth week of X1 being the top selling machine
and this week we have the PS4 selling more.
I wonder who's making stuff up...
No it doesn't. What gave you that idea?
If we assume your first week number and this MCV quote is right...
...and they mean LTD TF numbers (not only first week) it would look like this:
TF XB1 LTD < 145k
Infamous LTD > 73k
=>
145k * 4 = 580k XB1 sold
73k * 9 = 675k sold
So this would mean XB1 sold more in 2014 than PS4. I doubt that, but well...
2014:
XB1: 580k - 364k = 216k
PS4: 675k - 530k = 145k
Edit: Of course the 2:1 info for TF and Infamous could be more like 1.9:1...
MCV said:
and that would increase the PS4 number.
With large drop off for Titanfall and XB1 sales, what exactly is possible next in the UK? For those that dont know, MS dropped the price by 30 GBP ($50) plus bundled free game in - basically same as $450 bundles they are doing in the USA. It is unlikely that they can do something better considering how hyped up Titanfall was as game changer.
Infamous bundles on the other hand are extra cost., and rise of PS4 hardware in UK is also due to it not being readily available weeks before.
Infamous bundles on the other hand are extra cost., and rise of PS4 hardware in UK is also due to it not being readily available weeks before.