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Captain America: The Winter Soldier |OT| "Before we get started...

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Diggeh said:
Such an awesome film. Can't wait to see
the twins
in action.

In other news, I don't think ending the title with continuation periods was a good idea...

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n-Nooooo...... T_T

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Just got back from watching it and holy shit! I knew most of the plot points due to reading spoilers and I was still on the edge of my seat. This might be the best MCU film to date.

I really hope Whedon handles Cap's abilities in AoU atleast as well as in this.
 
So I saw this last night at an 8:30 early screening, and Holy Mother of God this was a good movie. It's like a cross between a Bond / Bourne movie and a superhero film. It's in the top three of all of the Marvel movies, at least as good a movie as Avengers and Iron Man, and to be honest after I watch it a few more times I may honestly put it at the top of all the Marvel movies. Avengers gets points because of the uniqueness of it's cast all in one movie, but honestly CA2:TWS was just a better movie from a technical standpoint. I'd even go so far to say that it's better technically than any of the Nolan Batman movies. The action is what puts it above the others for me. It was well choreographed, intense, very little shaky cam nonsense as you could follow the action nicely all throughout the movie, and sometimes it just seemed brutal and powerful in it's presentation. Damn, the way Captain moved and fought in this movie!!!!! This is how Batman fights need to be done!!!!!!!!!

It had serious moments that worked, it had humor, it had Oh Shit moments, it had actual surprises and suspense, it had a great comradery feeling among it's cast, oh and yeah it had more enjoyable action than any other Marvel movie to date (maybe even any other superhero movie to date?). This was just an awesome movie, period. I'm impressed.

I'm also going to see it again Sunday morning.
 
Got to see the 8:30 showing at my theater last night. Holy shit this was an incredible movie. You guys weren't joking when you said that it's a game changer. Now I'm really curious as to how AoS will be affected.
 
Gonna see the movie in about two-three hours. Anyone knows if there's a new GotG trailer attach to the film?
Oh and I'm obviously watching it in 2D.
 
I don't know if Batman vs Superman and Cap3 are still being released on the same day but after Cap2, BvS needs to move dates.
 
Thought the movie was really good, except a few minor things. Like how Falcon looked at times, and the second stinger after the credits. They should have switched stingers.

Also, my wife spotted a nice Pulp Fiction Easter egg at the end.
Fury's gravestone reads "The path of the righteous man..."
 
The 3D is truly awful (I was forced to watch it in 3D since my local theater only showed it that way), I haven't noticed a single scene that had a 3D effect, only the end credits, but really not a single one during the movie.
 
Korten said:
It's a trailer. More so no trailer that hasn't been out for a while now. If it had been like a world premier trailer, than yeah, I would shut up and listen but every one we had already seen. But to be fair I get what you mean.

Also it doesn't stop the guy from being a douchebag, justified or not. Two wrongs don't make a right. If he had said to us in a respectful and kind way: "Hey do you mind quieting down?"

None of us would have had an issue, but he didn't do that. He started out very angry and trying to act dominant.

Also we weren't the only ones talking. :/

Asking nicely can go a long way, being a dick will only get you ire against you. Lastly this guy was an adult, it wans't some teenager or college student, this guy (I believe) was a parent and should have known better than to act like
a dick.
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I agree with everything you said except the "it's a trailer" part. You never know if someone doesn't watch trailers at home and really likes seeing them for the first time in the theater.

If the guy was curt and brash in his approach that's on him not on you. So I understand you being irritated after that experience. :/
 
I liked it, but the entire time I was just thinking "You know what, this entire situation probably could have been handled a lot better if one or two of the other Avengers would have shown up for work today".
 
Ryuelli said:
I liked it, but the entire time I was just thinking "You know what, this entire situation probably could have been handled a lot better if one or two of the other Avengers would have shown up for work today".
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This is going to become the Marvel equivalent of the Eagles flying to Mordor thing isn't it? :P
 
Ryuelli said:
I liked it, but the entire time I was just thinking "You know what, this entire situation probably could have been handled a lot better if one or two of the other Avengers would have shown up for work today".
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here's what I found from interview with one of the movie writer
SHH: I definitely liked that the movie had its own standalone feel even though it's come after all these other movies. It's very much its own thing, which makes it hard to compare to "The Avengers" or "Thor" or even the first movie.
McFeely: That's very gratifying, and also, it takes place over three-ish days and it allows you to make a very tight story where you don't call up Iron Man to blow some things up for you. That was kind of an imperative going in is getting it to stand alone so that in the back of you're head you're not going, "Wasn't he friends with a huge green guy who can clean that up for him?" That sort of necessitated the tightness and the really frantic pacing of it is that we didn't want time to get baggy and therefore raise some obvious questions.
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Symphonic said:
Just got back. Really enjoyed it but not sure where all the "omg best Marvel movie ever" lines are coming from. I'd put it on par with Thor 2, which I also enjoyed, but under The Avengers and way under Iron Man 1. The plot was fantastic but the general flow and action felt formulaic. Fight scenes were awesome
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I thought Thor 2 was awful, just such a dull movie with nothing going for it. Only enjoyed Hulk less.
Thor 1 actually worked because it was basically a full on comedy.

This has zero problems other Marvel movies suffer from. Best villain, best climax, action on par with an Iron Man(but with a more satisfying showdown than IM1,2 and 3 combined)
No wasted characters,
and so on.
 
Razgriz-Specter said:
I thought Thor 2 was awful, just such a dull movie with nothing going for it. Only enjoyed Hulk less.
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I still can't get over how bad Thor 2 was. The script... plotting, pacing, characterization, dialogue... almost everything about it was awful. Super terrible villain too. It also finally made Loki jump the shark as one of the most ridiculous villains out there. I like his charm, but the writing he gets has been haphazard at best.
 
Ryuelli said:
I liked it, but the entire time I was just thinking "You know what, this entire situation probably could have been handled a lot better if one or two of the other Avengers would have shown up for work today".
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Yeah I was thinking the Hulk would have finished up that movie in 10 minutes. But the pacing of the movie makes sense, no one would know what is going on until the end.
 
MiamiWesker said:
Yeah I was thinking the Hulk would have finished up that movie in 10 minutes. But the pacing of the movie makes sense, no one would know what is going on until the end.
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I'm going to guess that Steve couldn't go ask Banner for help because
Banner probably has so much surveillance on him that it would have been screaming out to SHIELD where he was.
 
brandonh83 said:
I still can't get over how bad Thor 2 was. The script... plotting, pacing, characterization, dialogue... almost everything about it was awful. Super terrible villain too. It also finally made Loki jump the shark as one of the most ridiculous villains out there. I like his charm, but the writing he gets has been haphazard at best.
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Eh, to each his own. I personally loved Thor 2, I'd place it right under Avengers and Iron Man (and now CA2) in my Marvel list.

It's funny how the Marvel movies can always, and I mean ALWAYS, garner such widely varying opinions. Some people love certain Marvel films, some think they are okay, some hate certain ones, but none have consistent opinions. Like, everyone can agree that Green Lantern sucked hairy donkey balls, but while some hate the first Captain America others love it to death. Some say Avengers is the best superhero movie ever made, while others think it looks like a fancy TV movie. Marvel films always make people respond emotionally, for better or for worse.
 
Ryuelli said:
I liked it, but the entire time I was just thinking "You know what, this entire situation probably could have been handled a lot better if one or two of the other Avengers would have shown up for work today".
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Seriously?
I guess that unless Marvel starts explicitly mentioning where each Avenger is at the start of each movie people are going to keep saying this.
 
X05 said:
Seriously?
I guess that unless Marvel starts explicitly mentioning where each Avenger is at the start of each movie people are going to keep saying this.
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I think it'll be hilarious if they have a "Meanwhile..." gag reel before each movie starts, showing all the other Avengers each in some stupid situation which they can't get out of anytime soon, and then the movie starts. It would be awful in terms of keeping a serious tone, but it would shut those people up! Lolol.
 
The only hero that seemed slightly conspicuous in absence was Hawkeye. But it really didn't bother me that much and it is a silly thing to nitpick on as it is the basis for how all comics work ever.
 
If it really bothers people, I wouldn't be surprised if there is an Age of Ultron prelude comic that sheds some light on where each Avenger was around the time of each film. The Iron Man 3 prelude comic explained where War Machine was during the Avengers.
 
brandonh83 said:
I still can't get over how bad Thor 2 was. The script... plotting, pacing, characterization, dialogue... almost everything about it was awful. Super terrible villain too. It also finally made Loki jump the shark as one of the most ridiculous villains out there. I like his charm, but the writing he gets has been haphazard at best.
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Yeah I was really disappointed with it, especially since I really liked the first one. I think I said this is another thread, but I'm worried that Hiddleston's performance as Loki is going to be too greatly influenced by his tumblr fangirl fame now. It definitely seemed like he knew who he was pandering to in that movie and just played that up. Which is a shame, because I thought his role in the first Thor, was one of the more interesting and nuanced villains seen in a comic book movie.
 
Blader said:
Yeah I was really disappointed with it, especially since I really liked the first one. I think I said this is another thread, but I'm worried that Hiddleston's performance as Loki is going to be too greatly influenced by his tumblr fangirl fame now. It definitely seemed like he knew who he was pandering to in that movie and just played that up. Which is a shame, because I thought his role in the first Thor, was one of the more interesting and nuanced villains seen in a comic book movie.
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To be fair, Marvel specifically did re-shoots to give Loki more screen time. It's understandable that he's gonna play up his performance when he's getting a response like that directly from Marvel, not just from tumblr and such.

I liked the subtlety of his character in the beginning of Thor and you can see a clear progression in his character from that movie into Avengers and into Thor 2. I think it's natural and not in reaction to fans or anything.
 
The entire movie supposedly spans only like 3 days. Too fast to catch the other Avengers up to speed (too fast to locate them probably).

I was hoping for some Hawkeye, but chances are he was running some other mission across the world and when shit hit the fan he wouldn't have been able to travel as easily.
 
BannedEpisode said:
Iron man blew up his armor, Thor lives in Asgard, Banner is in hiding most likely, Hawkeye is saving rescue dogs.
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Yeah, Thor came to Earth at the end of Thor 2, forgot about that. Iron Man blew up most of his armor, but we're kidding ourselves if we think he doesn't have any left, right? He's in Avengers 2 so...

That being said, we absolutely don't need an explicit explanation for why the other Avengers aren't there for the movie. It would be kind of silly to have one, in my opinion.

Help me remember at the end of Iron Man 3, Pepper had the whole
Extremis thing going on, but Stark didn't, right? He says some off-handed comment at the end about how he "took care of her problem" but I wasn't sure if that meant she's still super-powered but stable, or if he took away the powers all together...
Anyone?
 
BannedEpisode said:
Up in the air on that.

As for another explanation; all the phase two movies take place in approximately the same time frame.
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I don't know if that's necessarily true anymore. It seems more like IM3 was six months after The Avengers, Thor 2 a year later, Cap 2 two years later. And ScarJo just said in a recent interview that Age of Ultron picks up three afters after the first movie. So Phase 2 seems like it's moving in real-time.
 
Blader said:
I don't know if that's necessarily true anymore. It seems more like IM3 was six months after The Avengers, Thor 2 a year later, Cap 2 two years later. And ScarJo just said in a recent interview that Age of Ultron picks up three afters after the first movie. So Phase 2 seems like it's moving in real-time.
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That's possible. Just spitballing.
 
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