Falco got worse technically, though he did get more fun to play as.
If it counts, Ness is incredibly unfun to play as compared to Lucas.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun
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Falco got worse technically, though he did get more fun to play as.
If it counts, Ness is incredibly unfun to play as compared to Lucas.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Smash 64? It's on the Wii eShop for $10
No doubt, but combined they do take time away from what could be at least another new, unique character, which I think many would prefer.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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doublepost
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Nope, you have a job to take care at smashboard so you will never leave us the smash community
We both know there will always be new Smash Bros games!
I'm glad that it's okay for you to be selfish for requesting nonsense things like that. Maybe you should think maybe this smash could be last game for some of the fans who are getting old or maturing.
Smash Bros 3DS and Wii U are more likely to be my last smash hype to follow but its entirely depend on my kids. I might pick up future titles if my kids are interested enough with smash but if they aren't then I wouldn't. People don't stay young or having free times forever. .
That would be cool for future fans to receive that!
Exactly. It's getting old sometime.
My favorite Charizard move is his forward aerial, if I recall correctly, where he flaps his wings forward and sprays fire while leaping forward. I was looking for it in the Direct but I don't recall seeing him use it. Hopefully it's still in, but I trust any and all changes to Charizard will be good changes. He was an excellent character and I'm happy to see him fleshed out into a standalone character, although I hope Ivysaur and Squirtle will also return (and honestly, I suspect they will, because there's no reason to scrap good work on completely unique characters that are already made, beloved by many and only add to the game).
Starphoenix
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Nope, you have a job to take care at smashboard so you will never leave us the smash community
Don't tell... But I like it better over here. >_>
Tom Nook Sawyer
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What the hell? It was just an idea about a videogame--I don't see how it's any more selfish than any other opinion. I'm sorry if that insulted you in some way; I assure you none was intended.
Time is still time. If a clone takes 1 month to make and a new character takes 2 months to make but there's only 2 months left before the game needs to go gold... guess what happens.
It's not even just about new characters, it's time that could be spent doing things with the existing character roster, as well.
Charizard uses a new forward aerial in the Direct that's just a basic claw swipe.
Lord_Byron28
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Perhaps they will gove Ganondorf a unique moveset and then through custom movesets they can get their captain falcon. Id rather have pig Ganon form wielding a trident before Demise. I don't get the fascination with Demise. Id rather Hylia before Demise, tbh.
Troubled Bat
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What? It don't really work like that way, so I think it's silly for actively wanting someone to cut so they can feel refreshing next games. What if there is no next games.
I think of this all the time, which is why I want as many characters as possible and even accept DLC in any way for characters. D: I needs muh big roster!
#TeamShulk
#TeamTakamaru
#TeamIsaac
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Hahaha, I see. I do follow smashboard occasionally when I can but I sometime found some of posters too aggressive for my own taste. Espically with the fact that Leak and Rumors thread are being slow.
Tortimer Island and Jungle Japes. Possibly Balloon Fight. If swimming is gone, there are still stages that have prominent water in them.
Flame Choke is all the decloning I need....
Shhhh, baby steps >_>
I don't think he so much as got worse as Metaknight, Snake, and Diddy came to existence.
I'm pretty tempted, but I recently started building my N64 Library up again, and I miss that physical bugger.
Thanks, I'll probably get that one as well.
Agreed. Squirtle dumps on Wolf 24/7. I'd rather have a unique character like him than someone like Lucas. No offense to him, but his and Ness' kits are too similar.
Starphoenix
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Heatwave is gone and he now has Slash as his FAir attack :/
theprodigy
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not really....
and I'd say his Melee version is more fun, even if it's also more cloney
KojiKnight
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Sure this already got posted (and likely WebM'ed) but since I'm late to seeing it and wasn't sure if it had been done so yet... (set to "backstreet's back", turn audio on)
http://a.pomf.se/nqlbrc.webm
http://a.pomf.se/nqlbrc.webm
Tom Nook Sawyer
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That was awesome
I feel like one of the only people who don't mind george cloney in Smash. Pichu was hilariously fun for me, and if you gave Melee Ganondorf the choke, and his Shoryuken, I'd find him just about perfect.
Starphoenix
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Still a worthy foray into the webm world.
Also, seeing X and .EXE gives me hope there will at least be one track from the spin-off series that makes its way to Wily Castle
http://youtu.be/siizc_QZ6B0
http://youtu.be/3b9D5YWqtFM
And it's going to be much better (in terms of utility) than that fire Fair was from Brawl. Goodness that move was bad (the only time it was good is if you sweetspotted it but the sweetspot was close to his mouth for some inane reason on top of it being one of his laggiest aerials).
RomanceDawn
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I hate to break it to you but it appears that Charizards forward aerial has been changed to a slash attack. Somewhere in the trailer he picks up Mario with his mouth and tosses him, Charizard then follows up with that slash.
Shadow Hog
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Well, it sort of goes without saying that all of the characters in Smash for 3DS/Wii U will have better balance; they no longer randomly trip.
Charizard's new Forward Air:
Forgot to link to the Charizard post in that list of posts.
Forgot to link to the Charizard post in that list of posts.
30/10
oreomunsta
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theprodigy
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Indeed, I'd even wager Wii Fit Trainer is the most balanced character of them all.
Ness was awesome. I loved interrupting people's attacks with a well placed yo-yo.
Oh wow, really? Well, I hope Slash is for the better. I guess the other move (Heatwave, according to Kyzon?) was a bit slow by comparison.
Speaking of move names, I see a lot of people have trouble identifying Greninja's moves that use water swords. I think it's simply "Cut." I know we don't typically picture Cut looking this way, since it's a generic HM move that's appeared for a variety of Pokémon in every Pokémon game to date... but when you think about it, how would Cut appear when used by Greninja? His Pokedex entry says he makes throwing stars out of "sharpest water," so it makes sense he'd craft a sword the same way when using Cut.
As for his Final Smash, I bet it's Night Slash, one of his high-level moves. In classic ninja fashion, they convey his speed and power as a flurry of hits -- in this case, silhouetted against the moon at night, staying true to his Dark-type.
oreomunsta
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Sorry, clearly from the reveal, Greninja is the most balanced character. Did you see him balance on that stick in the Garden of Hope?
I don't know if it's been picked out. But his Up-B makes me think of Aqua Jet.
Okay now I'm on board with these webms.
BassForever
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Why would Sakurai cut rob unless time constraints happen? He's got a unique moveset that really doesn't need a whole lot of work, is a unique and major part of Nintendo's history, and had a significant role in Brawl's story mode that Sakurai created. He's also unique as the only robot character in the cast the same way mr g&w is the only 2d character.
Also lets get this clear about clones, yes luigi, toon link, ganondorf, falco, wolf, and lucas all have different a moves and some specials that work differently, that doesn't mean they aren't clones. A clone simply means the character is heavily based off a pre existing character and everyone above works that way. Luigi is based off of Mario, T link is based off of Link, gdorf is based off of c falcon, falco and wolf are based off of fox, and lucas is based off of Ness. With the exception of luigi and gdorf all of them use the same final smash and have very similar special moves which work differently in practice but at a first glance look the same.
Personally I'm fine with clones as a means to beef up the roster and in some cases I prefer the style of the other character to the original. I think we are more likely to see a clone type character cut before we see an original move set get cut unless a situation like Snake arrises which is a tad more complicated. Yes Wolf may play very differently to Fox and Falco but he is clearly inspired by them, where as rob is completely original. If I had to choose between one of them I'd pick rob just because he is original.
Also lets get this clear about clones, yes luigi, toon link, ganondorf, falco, wolf, and lucas all have different a moves and some specials that work differently, that doesn't mean they aren't clones. A clone simply means the character is heavily based off a pre existing character and everyone above works that way. Luigi is based off of Mario, T link is based off of Link, gdorf is based off of c falcon, falco and wolf are based off of fox, and lucas is based off of Ness. With the exception of luigi and gdorf all of them use the same final smash and have very similar special moves which work differently in practice but at a first glance look the same.
Personally I'm fine with clones as a means to beef up the roster and in some cases I prefer the style of the other character to the original. I think we are more likely to see a clone type character cut before we see an original move set get cut unless a situation like Snake arrises which is a tad more complicated. Yes Wolf may play very differently to Fox and Falco but he is clearly inspired by them, where as rob is completely original. If I had to choose between one of them I'd pick rob just because he is original.
haha, that's awesome. Good music choice.
Have you played Project M? Heatwave replaces Rock Smash, and it's a beautiful Side Special attack.... At least the last version of Project M I played.... May be different now >_>
I'd say you're correct about Cut, and Night Slash is what I assumed his Final Smash to be as well. It's also the only move he learns that could look like his Karas attack.
theprodigy
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I thought so at first, but Greninja doesn't learn Aqua Jet. Neither do his pre-evolutions. I think that Up B might be Hydro Pump. Again, it's not the usual association -- everyone who played Pokémon back in the '90s will forever think of Hydro Pump as a pure power move. But you can see how a ninja like Greninja might use it in other ways -- in this case, to rocket around the stage.
Lucas was so much better though. His smash attacks are deadly, while Ness' smashes are crappy (the yoyo up smash sucks so much).
theprodigy
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I don't think not learning a move will stop that from happening.
It hasn't changed.
SenorArdilla
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Doh!
Good thing it isn't random
Villager confirmed for unbalanced and Diddy for broken.
oreomunsta
Banned
Don't know if you're referring to Brawl or WiiU/3DS, but if it's the latter then R.O.B. is no longer the only robot =)
I think we need to distinguish clones based on how similar they are, if we are going to toss that idea around these conversations.
Greninja is also confirmed to be Mewtwo's substitute
It's still good.
I had fun with it. Suicidal bugger who packed a punch. It's so satisfying getting kills with it.
theprodigy
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Maybe it's waterfall. It's the most useful water move for an up special and was what squirtle used in Brawl.
BassForever
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I totally didn't think of Megaman as a robot lol epic fail on my part
My favorite Charizard move both in Vanilla and Project M then.
Villager am Cry. Diddy staying classy.
He does learn Quick Attack though, and his Up-B looks almost identical in function to Pikachu's Quick Attack which has a bit of a "light" motif to it. I wouldn't be surprised if they're the same and Greninja just uses water effects instead.