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I think she was checking up on him more because there could have been some psychological issues with him after the operation. The HYDRA situation is more of a theory May has.
Logically, though, I agree. May should have been the one who was given the reveal. Fury probably would have come to the same conclusions as her.
GuitarAtomik
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I think they're going out of their way to show Ward is loyal to Garret as opposed to Hydra (he hasn't even said the word Hydra yet) which would make him easier to sway to the good side. So they'll probably have him become dissillusioned with Garret (through Skye somehow) and he'll make the ultimate sacrifice as his moment of redemption. I think we've seen him do too much dirt at this point to accept him just being like "lol no Hydra. I'm with Skye now <3" and rejoining the team.
Lone_Prodigy
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I would've liked to see Oswalt only tell May and then have her be torn over whether to tell Coulson while he freaks out at more secrets.
Eventually May tells Coulson in an attempt to regain his trust, only to have Coulson think she's manipulating him and make him question Fury again. Season ends with him snapping.
"They fixed his body, but couldn't fix his mind."
Eventually May tells Coulson in an attempt to regain his trust, only to have Coulson think she's manipulating him and make him question Fury again. Season ends with him snapping.
"They fixed his body, but couldn't fix his mind."
I've been waiting for you to post this again.
Count me in the camp that just recently watched Cap 2. After seeing it last Friday I've been going through the episodes I missed. Just caught up last night. I realized that the last episode I watched was the Thor 2 tie in... mostly because I felt like it was hyped up and then was face planted with a disappointment, even if it was a decent episode. The Cap 2 tie in also wasn't as big of a deal to me, but it still had major repercussions. Combine that with the fact that the episode quality leading up to the tie in episode had been growing left me happy. Will tune in next week.
"Did she?"
Fury may have been worried enough about Coulson to have May spy on him, but at the end of everything, with their backs o the wall, Coulson's his bro, and May is a nobody. If there's one person he's going to rely on, it's him. You really think Nick Fury would go through all that effort to put May back together if she was speared by an Asgardian's sceptre?
He's so inconsistent
Black-Wind
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Harsh words there.
Annnnd to tell you the truth, it seems like an on going plot-point that NO ONE really knows why Fury had Coulson brung back. Coulson doesn't know (seems like that's part of what he wants to find out), Hand doesn't know and points out how he's getting special treatment and May sure as hell hasn't implied that she knows WHY Fury did it. No one knows why he did it and it seems like this was his first time doing it.
So no, I wouldn't call it some kinda Bromance and leave it at that. We don't know why he did what he did and that's a major part of why they wanted to find him after he remembered.
that's intense
I really hope they pull something great here with this explanation as to why he's back. It's 50% of the mystery. We know how he's back, but not why.
I don't remember it exactly, but did they mention in which state the prison is.
If we could have seen what happened before during the rise of hydra ...
... maybe we just missed they dieing fatherly but harsh supervisor last words, who tole those 2 guards, they are the only 2 trustworthy SHIELD agents left to protect the building.
Didn't the Doctor say Coulson lost his will to live.
those shallow women
Maybe they could make and Artbook out of the posters,
or give a random one to the first few season set buyers.
TacticalFox88
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Problem is Coulson was great in the movies because we got him in doses.
The shtick gets old, but its tolerable, at least
Rafa=FedKilla
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Jeph Loeb os validated!
Weapxn
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Part of it is definitely the writing. That can be downright bad across the board though. Some of the actors deal with it much better than he does. He's not a good enough actor to make even the worst lines tolerable. He makes them infinitely more terrible.
He was better in small doses. Without a doubt.
It definitely comes down to writing IMO. When watching AoS, in the back of my head I am always waiting for the cheeky, funny side of Coulson to show up more often. The pilot had much more of that, and as soon as shit started getting real, we pretty much never saw that side of Coulson again. Sometimes you get a glint of it in a joke here and there, but never the full thing.
I like funny, comedic relief Coulson, and I happen to like frustrated, existential-crisis Coulson as well, its just that everything between is a bit vanilla. I still like the character and how they've attempted to build on him, though
I like funny, comedic relief Coulson, and I happen to like frustrated, existential-crisis Coulson as well, its just that everything between is a bit vanilla. I still like the character and how they've attempted to build on him, though
I really want Hill to get more screen time though, in whatever medium
Weapxn
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How so? I'm not horribly familiar with the character in the comics, but I have read some of her appearances. I like Cobie.
Really? Why's that?
I think she's up there. I don't think we've seen enough of her or perhaps she's not grizzled enough to be fully realized yet though. Was kind of disappointed there wasn't as much of her in TWS too. I think she did a stellar job in Avengers, for what her role was.
Mostly because I don't buy Cobie in that kind of role. There is nothing about her that says high ranking commanding officer type. She's the least believable of all the primary and secondary roles.
Jest Chillin
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Cobie is fine as Maria Hill. There's really not much that she can do with what she's been given thus far.
It has nothing to do with her relation to the comic version of the character and everything to do with her not being right for that type of role. My complaint isn't that she isn't the hard ass Maria Hill from the books. My complaint is I can't take her seriously in any kind of high ranking official type role.
I thought she had a good presence whenever she was on the bridge of the helicarrier, had a good "not too close" dynamic with Fury, and was convincing when she raised her voice and all
Though I can't say I'm familiar with any of her other work, I didn't have expectations going into it.
Though I can't say I'm familiar with any of her other work, I didn't have expectations going into it.
Hours Left
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I love Cobie as Maria. I think the way she plays the role is just right.
I have no seen her in any other medium and thought she was good as Maria Hill. I mean I would not have minded if that lady who played that female Kryptonian from Man of Steel got the role but that is kind of an aside.
I agree with another poster who said much earlier that he just needs more material to work with, and him simply not smirking all the time makes a world of difference as seen in the latest episode where it was bordering on almost great. Hopefully they keep the smirk to a minimum from here on out. He does not have too much to feel confident about anymore.
I agree with another poster who said much earlier that he just needs more material to work with, and him simply not smirking all the time makes a world of difference as seen in the latest episode where it was bordering on almost great. Hopefully they keep the smirk to a minimum from here on out. He does not have too much to feel confident about anymore.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Phil Coulson and Clark Gregg are insufferable. Goddam. Just awful in every way. I was laughing when he threw his Shield badge.
Fitz had some lingering looks and jealous eyes this episode. A darkness has surrounded his heart. Simmons was just adorable. I think we even got a quick glimpse of dat ass. The Ward and Skye romance Im not feeling at all. Seems so awkward. Has Loeb written all over it.
Fitz had some lingering looks and jealous eyes this episode. A darkness has surrounded his heart. Simmons was just adorable. I think we even got a quick glimpse of dat ass. The Ward and Skye romance Im not feeling at all. Seems so awkward. Has Loeb written all over it.
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I like Gregg 
I thought that scene was pretty stupid tbh. If I would imagine anyone to never lose his cool about Fury being there for him with a backup plan is Coulson (for as much as his trust is shaken, he is the company man) but they wrote him like a child throwing a fit and wanting things to be one way, instead of being confident about his motives and actions. Basically, how can he be a leader to this people when he lets his emotions overcome him like that. And it has happened several times now. Sure, this is a pretty big event, but this guy is supposed to breathe global crisis.
Pretty much everyone was feeling sorry for him. Sure, it paid off in the end, but to Coulson that should have always been a certainty.
Gregg did what he could with those shitty lines tbf.
Pretty much everyone was feeling sorry for him. Sure, it paid off in the end, but to Coulson that should have always been a certainty.
Gregg did what he could with those shitty lines tbf.
Pai Pai Master
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I think that's fine though. They were lucky it DID turn out to be a SHIELD facility managed by Fury, but I don't think the team will just drop the fact that Coulson was ready to sacrifice them for a hunch he had. If they don't continue to question his leadership ability after that scene then yeah it'd be stupid. But I think May is going to be on his case for a while now after that.
Rafa=FedKilla
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By the way, Chloe Bennet turns 22 today.
ratcliffja
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She wasn't that great in avengers, but I liked her a lot more in TWS.
I liked her in Avengers. I thought she was badass and my favorite scene with her is when Stark enters the helicarrier. You can see she is far from impressed with him, and I love her little expressions. I doubted she was right for the role when it was first announced, but now I love her in it and she deserves more screen time. I hope her last scene in TWS means she'll get it.
Pai Pai Master
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Yeah she's not really the no-nonsense hard-ass she is in the comics but I like her in the role. She has a pretty commanding presence on the Helicarrier and at least has one pretty badass moment in TWS.
I was expecting them to make her acting director once Fury went underground but that obviously didn't happen with SHIELD basically blowing up. I wonder where they'll take her character if she's gonna be working for Stark. I kinda wanted her to be more of a foil to the Avengers but we'll see.
I was expecting them to make her acting director once Fury went underground but that obviously didn't happen with SHIELD basically blowing up. I wonder where they'll take her character if she's gonna be working for Stark. I kinda wanted her to be more of a foil to the Avengers but we'll see.
RellyRell28
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lol. I can't unsee Kenan Thompson when I see his pic.
Funky Papa
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AoS Coulson is horrible because:
a) His writing is shit. An actor can only do so much with scripts that bad.
b) The direction is shit. Watching AoS I can feel that plenty of times the director should step in and tell the actors "ok, that wasn't good enough, let's try again". Alas, we have what we have.
Coulson's one-off movie was amazing and makes AoS flaws all the more evident. He was highly charismatic, wry without feeling forced, competent and highly resolute. Hell, even his action scene was great. AoS Coulson is just plain lame.
a) His writing is shit. An actor can only do so much with scripts that bad.
b) The direction is shit. Watching AoS I can feel that plenty of times the director should step in and tell the actors "ok, that wasn't good enough, let's try again". Alas, we have what we have.
Coulson's one-off movie was amazing and makes AoS flaws all the more evident. He was highly charismatic, wry without feeling forced, competent and highly resolute. Hell, even his action scene was great. AoS Coulson is just plain lame.
CarbonRevenge
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Damn. She has to be mine in my lifetime. She's 3 years ahead of me, soon to be 2.
Anyone think Clark is hinting at something there?
Damn. She has to be mine in my lifetime. She's 3 years ahead of me, soon to be 2.
Anyone think Clark is hinting at something there?
LumpOfCole
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Damn. She has to be mine in my lifetime. She's 3 years ahead of me, soon to be 2.
Anyone think Clark is hinting at something there?
The 'Sk' in Skye is short for Skrull.
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