Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Fedoras: We Don't Want You Anymore, M'Lady

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I don't see how you are making all these conclusions, however,
jasonng said:
AlexMogil said:
SEE I AM A NICE GUY YOU FUCKING BITCH
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The perfect TLDR.
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this I can agree with.

All this nice guy-bad boy labeling and oversimplification sickens me.
"Must avoid being nice at all costs. Got it. I'm not entitled to anything and everybody else is entitled to everything, yet I must remain confident. Also, confidence is totally not an euphemism for good looks" could be the take-home message at this rate.
 
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Damn, somebody really hurt this dude's feelings.

He's on a ship for broken hearts sailing across a sea of his own salty ass tears. He'll never get off it, will he?
 
Jeez, bitter much? Sounds like the dude dated some flighty idiot and hasn't gotten over it. I mean everyone has, there are some stupid women out there, stupid guys to for that matter, but no need to have some kind of revenge fantasy because of it.
 
freenudemacusers said:
no fair, i can't even properly troll this thread
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instead, i'll just leave you with this pathetic display

http://www.mgtow.com/
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God, that website...
I remember recently seeing someone unironically say they subscribed to that movement. I half expected him to say that he took the "red pill," as many embittered MRAs are wont to do.


XenodudeX said:
These people are really dragging the term "nice guy" through the mud.
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That's the thing, though. "Niceness" shouldn't be held as this great ideal that everyone should strive for. It should be considered the bare minimum for being a decent person, to the point where any displays of niceness should be entirely unremarkable. Niceness is a character trait, not a personality trait. One can't expect to establish a personality based on something that isn't intrinsic to it in the first place. It'll often just leave you being incredibly milquetoast.

Codeblue said:
It has to be.
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I've seen too many displays of this behavior to automatically assume this is satire, though some of the best is often indistinguishable from the real deal.

Opiate said:
There are "nice guys" out there who honestly listen to women (and men), and who care about other people's feelings. But they do so without expecting something in return; once you ask for something in return, it's no longer just a nice thing to do, it's a business transaction. I listen to you blather for a few hours, I open the door for you, I pay for your meal, and then in return you have sex with me. These men are bitter because, from their perspective, the women violated the agreed business transaction.
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BRB getting my lawyer to make sure this sexual transaction goes smoothly.
 
Kirosia said:
I kinda get where he's coming from. I was/am a nice fella. Not a saint, not too dull I hope, and I've probably got a folder hidden on my desktop labeled "For Milamber's Eyes Only". And being serially rejected, often for folks you've dealt with personally and could quantify as chartreuse dicks, does tend to bugger up the noggin', especially in your younger years. I remember women who in high school were callous and cruel and reveled in how they treated me, and others like me. I see them now a decade later, and after being tossed in the trash again and again, they're finally looking for that stable and relatively-not-an-ass Prince Charming. Princes that have learned from their mistakes and have found someone actually decent, who shares their values and expectations of what a relationship is. I've known Princesses who've done the same.
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But in this situation it's not really fair, right? "High School", an era where people generally should just date who they want, don't know what they want, and don't know what constitutes a healthy relationship and partner.

Doesn't excuse being an awful person, but someone in their 20's will generally have a better idea of what they need in a relationship compared to someone in their teens.
 
Aaron-Lagann said:
Why is "nice guy" such a thing anyway? How does one even become one? Are you a nice guy if you don't treat people like shit? Is that literally all it takes? Because everyone I know in a relationship is a nice guy by that standard.
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"Nice guy" is a rationalization used by people who are completely socially inept or otherwise wholly undesirable to vilify socially capable men (and the women who date them) in order to protect themselves psychologically from the fact that they are completely socially inept or otherwise wholly undesirable.
 
Zuhzuhzombie!! said:
But in this situation it's not really fair, right? "High School", an era where people generally should just date who they want, don't know what they want, and don't know what constitutes a healthy relationship and partner.
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True, although it's happened in college too. In fact, I pretty much stay away from anyone under 25. Or was it 40.

GILFs.
 
Maybe it's just me, but throughout all of these dating or romance threads that pop up on NeoGAF that have correlation to unrequited love (or friend zone), I get the impression these self-proclaimed 'nice guys' are really nowhere close to being what they think they are.
 
Lord. I have trouble believing this one is not an elaborate troll, not because guys like this aren't out there. But more because it is just way too on the nose. I mean it pretty much hits every single stereotype of the "Nice Guy" archetype. Kinda like reading a fanfiction that is so bad, you have trouble imagining it wasn't written that bad on purpose.

Opiate said:
The central problem with this group of men, it seems to me, is that they confuse timidity with kindness and compassion.

It is apparent they want the same things the supposed "bad boys" want; sex. Or, as the timid might say, a "chance to win your heart." The primary difference is that these "bad boys" are open about it.

There are "nice guys" out there who honestly listen to women (and men), and who care about other people's feelings. But they do so without expecting something in return; once you ask for something in return, it's no longer just a nice thing to do, it's a business transaction. I listen to you blather for a few hours, I open the door for you, I pay for your meal, and then in return you have sex with me. These men are bitter because, from their perspective, the women violated the agreed business transaction.

The meaning behind the word "nice" is that you do something without the expectation of repayment. Men who listen and help people because they honestly care about other people's feelings have little trouble finding romantic partners.
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I have issues with this primarily because I think that the whole Nice Guy witch hunt over the last couple of years is overblown. The vast majority of these guys are generally frustrated, socially awkward for what could be a myriad of reasons, and honestly do want more than just sex. Romantic companionship, even without sex, is very important to people, and a lot of these guys are trying to find it, in ways that they were taught, either by their parents, or more likely by a subset of society and culture. A date isn't viewed as a transaction, it's viewed as a guy putting himself out there, at what he believes is his best, and not understanding why nothing comes of it. It's simple thinking for complex interactions.

Basically, they see the whole: "Be nice to a girl, take her out, be yourself, be a gentleman and she'll eventually see how great a person you are and fall in love." concept that has been passed down in movies, comics, books, and is ingrained in the culture, and thought that "HEY! That's how it works" never realizing that sexual and romantic attraction is far more complicated than that. When everything they were taught to believe comes crashing down on them, some become bitter, and as an emotional response, that is understandable. But bitter people are often douchebags, the greater the frustration, the worse it becomes. Hence the real nutters out there.

Not everyone is inherently good at dealing with the opposite sex, and the blanket shaming of Nice Guys feels a lot like kicking someone while they are down. Many will learn better over time.
 
No girl I ever dated ordered steak and brought some back for me when she was out eating with somebody else.

What a nice girl.
 
SOME-MIST said:
sort of a personal story of mine

this part actually applies to my life and my choice in women. throughout high school I was really attracted to some of the girls that my group of friends were friends with. the majority of the time I usually stuck to meeting girls outside of our group of friends and I did a pretty good job for the most part. my longest relationship unfortunately only lasted 2 years though.

throughout college, I'd take out a couple of the girls I was "friends" with on little solo dates that went well but I could tell they just weren't into me so I didn't pursue it. meanwhile, those same girls would date some of the guys I was friends with which would inevitably end in breakup a month or two down the line before the girl moved onto another one of my friends.

it seemed like at that point that these girls were going from guy to guy (all dudes I know) and I actually had many opportunities to "get" with a couple of them, but at that point... I knew who they were with prior to me and I was grossed out by the fact that I was gonna be tunnel buddies with a whole bunch of other people I know. I stuck to my studies and set fourth to establish a business career.

graduated college, got a job within 3 months of graduating which I stayed at for two years with two promotions, and then I moved on to one of my dream jobs. it's funny because as of 2 years ago those girls want to hang out and go out on dates, but I want nothing to do with them any more. I get satisfaction from their "change of heart" and I leave it at that.

I feel like I've dodged many bullets. It's also funny because some of them have mentioned that "they're impressed how I've turned my life around", but I've had the same goals since high school. it just wasn't apparent because I was in a band and liked to party lol.
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Did you ever ask any of those girls out before your friends did?
 
Do girls ever complain about how "no one wants nice girls"

i feel like this is only a problem with guys. Insecure and trying to get people out of their league or people they have nothing in common with.
 
This is a message of hope for all nice guys... Forget the girls during your 20s, it's too hard. Maximize your credit score and when you're in your 30s you will steal them from young bad boys with your Audi.
 
To whoever wrote that.

Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

Jesus Christ. If that isn't the embodiment of bitter and insecure then I don't know what is. If someone is such a low life and so insignificant, then why waste so much time and energy thinking, talking and fussing over them? What are you proving? That you're a smug ass, little shit who has something to prove?

He isn't necessarily isn't wrong though. The delivery is just overwhelmingly arrogant and he just comes off as a total fucking asshole. An actual nice person wouldn't give a single shit and just move. This individual clearly doesn't understand that.
 
Now that the bad boys have used you up and moved on to women 10 years younger, so have I.
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This isn't a nice guy...he's a douche.

I hope someone responds to him...it's the only considerate thing to do here.
 
Omega Rex said:
Do girls ever complain about how "no one wants nice girls"

i feel like this is only a problem with.
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There are girls who attempt to date "out of their league" if you will and end up with very similar results.

Although they often get bad sex out of the deal from the guy. I watched this happen a lot growing up. Even other correlations like they'd pay for things.... Saw a bitter breakdown or 2.
 
Damn, the salt! It burns!

Always start from the bottom and work your way up, setting a low bar threshold that is easily topped each successive date. Any guy who willingly takes a girl to a 5 star restaurant on a first date is a fool.
 
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