theprodigy
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if by great you mean below average, I guess
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 7: How Can My Smash Brother Be This Cut
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if by great you mean below average, I guess
It's been right in front of you all along!
I'll keep trying to hit it :3
Lord_Byron28
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Well hopefully Hyrule Warriors delivers and has a ton of playable fighters from the Zelda series. Mario, Zelda, Pokemon and fire emblem are all franchises that could have their own dedicated fighting game spinoff and have large rosters.I'm kinda salty about Dark Link not being playable actually, lol. I don't even have a good reason for that other than I like Dark Link. I just think it would be cool for him to have a moveset where he jumped through shadows.
I'm not counting Dark Link Costumes btw
Zelda really needs a spinoff akin to the idea of Mario Kart where you can play as tons of characters in the series.
F-Zero would have a great cast of fighters too. Imagine Samurai Goroh vs Captain Falco vs Silver Nelsen vs the twins
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foxuzamaki
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By the way guys, How do you iike my awesome, manly as fuck new avatar
TheRedSnifit
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I'm pretty sure that Luigi's always near the bottom.
theprodigy
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MaverickHunterAsh
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I don't, but hey, different strokes for different folks!
foxuzamaki
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That is such a strange thing for a character like donkey kong, in any other game, a big, powerful character that is also fast and agile(relatively) would be usually a broken character. Or just a really incredible human being in real life.
The best Samus got was mid-tier but she's solidly crap in 64 and Brawl.
Kirby's good in 64, awful in Melee, meh in Brawl.
Fox works, though he was pretty bad in Brawl too. Ice Climbers are good in both Melee and Brawl, too.
theprodigy
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Kirby is definitely below average, unless you consider just over half the cast being better to not be below average for some reason.
Kirby was top-tier in Smash 64 and bottom-tier in Melee. Fox got nerfed hard in Brawl.
He's apparently decent in Melee.
Yoshi is probably the next most consistent, with a big dip down the list in Brawl.
SenorArdilla
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I think Fox is at least a solid "Okay but There are Better Choices."
theprodigy
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consistently good (this is a really shaky category due to Melee Pikachu/Brawl Fox): Fox, Pikachu (Marth, Falco, and Ice Climbers too, but they only have Melee/Brawl)
consistently meh: Luigi, DK
consistently awful: Ness, Yoshi, Link
and for this "Fox is awful in Brawl" business, he's still solidly in the top half of the cast at least >_>
consistently meh: Luigi, DK
consistently awful: Ness, Yoshi, Link
and for this "Fox is awful in Brawl" business, he's still solidly in the top half of the cast at least >_>
Mmmm Zelda maybe?
Yeah, looking at the tier lists he's been pretty consistently middle of the pack but that's still a pretty big dip. RIP consistency.
I've really wanted one since Soul Calibur 2 on GCN. That would be an amazing game for Zelda fans.
Boss Doggie
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Looks like the general direct this month became split directs for Smash and Tomodachi
theprodigy
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Freezie KO
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Awww hell naw. Long live aMSa!
Has Mario always been consistently average? I always find it weird that we never see many players, except a long-shot Dr. Mario, play with Nintendo's main mascot.
A huge hitbox and really bad recovery make him almost a glass cannon, IMO. And he doesn't have as much firepower as, say, Fox.
Samus just is usually slow and floaty.
Speaking of slow, I have no doubt Bowser will be low tier in Smash 4, and he probably would have been low tier if he were in Smash 64.
Mario's complete shit in Brawl. Just can't kill worth a damn.
Karsticles
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Slow characters just kind of suck. Sakurai tries to make them good and fails every time.
SenorArdilla
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You think Sakurai has learned how to balance out the heavyweight characters in SSB4?
theprodigy
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Mario was average in the first two, fell off hard in Brawl though
Hyperactivity
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And separate Fatal Frame and Ace Attorney announcements and a Theatyrhym Final Fantasy Curtain Call localisation
Freezie KO
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Besides the fact that he wasn't MetaKnight, why was Mario so bad in Brawl?
Mario was bad because he had like zero hard hitting attacks, no priority on his moves and stubby limbs.
Meanwhile in Project M, Mario is slowly but surely being considered the new Melee Sheik (i.e. the character that gate keeps other characters out of God Tier).
Meanwhile in Project M, Mario is slowly but surely being considered the new Melee Sheik (i.e. the character that gate keeps other characters out of God Tier).
BassForever
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Biggest thing is probably the loss of his down b to aid his recovery makes him extremely predictable when recovering, he also has problems reliably killing people. Mario literally lose a move (his down a), had his original down b nerfed (it became his down a) and his new down b is completely worthless in vanilla brawl.
Melee Ganon was kinda nice though.
Beelzebufo
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Thanks to Melee's physics though, he wasn't all that slow.
SkullHydra
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I think he might be able to use armor to make slower characters more usable. I think I remember someone posting a .webm of Bowser showing signs of armor similar to Little Mac, but I may have been mistaken...
No 'Uff uff uff" running either.
Karsticles
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He tried armor in Brawl. I remain skeptical.
Freezie KO
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^ Thanks for the answers Re: Mario. I never got to delve into Brawl to the depths I did with Melee.
I wonder if his FLUDD move will be worth anything in SSB4. I was honestly surprised to see it brought back.
I wonder if his FLUDD move will be worth anything in SSB4. I was honestly surprised to see it brought back.
He lacked strength somewhat...heck diddy's and metaknight's down smash is somehow stronger than his lol.
Project M mario should be the standard.
Melee Ganon was nice because he really wasn't that slow and in exchange he hit HARD.
So many fireballs...
theprodigy
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FTFY
.You mean the MvC3 character who sneaked into Smash Bros?
Jk, I like how Project M Zelda was an attempt to add more different character styles.
theprodigy
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You mean the MvC3 character who sneaked into Smash Bros?
I'm pretty sure Zelda doesn't have a one-touch kill
It's not even the fireballs even if they're nutty as fuck. It's the combination of giving him stupidly high attack power (who's brilliant idea was it to make his fair vary between being a spike or Dr. Mario's dunk; let's not even get into fsmash or dsmash), making everything recover a billion times faster than you are ever truly prepared for, giving him huge priority on down B, a slide that stays active as long as Zero's buttons in Marvel vs. Capcom 3 that can combo into itself up to 3 times, DI taken into account, and of course a faster cape that can launch you if sweet spotted.
This character is amazing and stupid at the same time. :lol
C.Olimar788
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Every character design in Project M should become standard, with maybe the exception of Lucario. PM game design is too good.
Save 'N Quit
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No thanks...Bitter towards fighting PM zelda with peach. Freaking din fire mines and nayu's love spam >_<
Can't deny PM zelda is Best zelda tho. Fun to play with.
Beelzebufo
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Wario, Olimar, and Toon Link aren't great either.
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