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Jason Momoa joins Batman/Superman cast (possibly Aquaman)

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xtrasauce said:
If you think it's a bullshit excuse, please film scripts from superhero TV cartoons using live actors and let me know how that turns out.
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That is a bullshit premise in response to my pointing out your bullshit excuse :)

And even so, you COULD probably film the script to Dini/Timm's "World's Finest" and it'd play just fine with real sets and live actors. It's not like the things they're doing and saying are any more outlandish than, say, a talking tree and a raccoon with a gun wrecking shit in outer-space.

How many origin movies are people clamoring for with that property, by the way? How many people are calling that movie a bloated piece of shit because there's two supervillains, five heroes, a Mugatu, and an entire squad of space cops led by Albert Nobbs?

Manmademan said:
This hasn't been true for decades. The target audience for DC and Marvel is the audience that grew up with these characters in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Your average fanboy (much like your average console gamer) is in their mid thirties, and the stories have reflected this for quite some time. There is a world of difference between an Avengers story in 1988, and an Avengers story in 2014.
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You just explained why superhero COMICS are stagnant and losing audience. Not superhero MOVIES. Or superhero cartoons. Any single episode of Batman: TAS has probably seen by more people than the last five years of Batman comics COMBINED.
 
Boy do I have a hard time seeing all this shit meshing well with the drab, dreary universe created in Man of Steel. They really should have just started from scratch.
 
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This is a disaster in the making, isn't it.
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no, since this is just a casting rumor.

DJwest said:
So it's a Justice League movie after all right ? Fuck this shit. Superman deserved his own sequel after MoS (yh I liked the movie, sue me!).
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he will, you should wait for plot details.

Minion101 said:
This movie is going to be nearly a JLA movie.
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again, just a casting rumor.


Savitar said:
The bloat.
It's too much.
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rumor.

Pagusas said:
This movie is going to be such a piece of crap.
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oh no superhero movie has lots of actors cast and rumors of actors playing in it, it has to suck! it just has to!


Calabi said:
I thought Man of Steel was supposed to be a more realistic Superman. How are they going to switch it and make it plausible, with all these other superheroes?
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did you actually see the movie???

torontoml said:
This is getting ridiculous, how many superheroes are in this film now?
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three. and we don't know Wonder Woman's full role.

BLACKLAC said:
I didn't want to jump on the bloat bandwagon but now I just don't have a clue what they are doing.
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then don't because this is just a rumor at this point.

SquiddyCracker said:
Guys, how many heroes can we squeeze into a Superman sequel!?
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Batman and maybe wonder woman. we don't know what role Vic Stone will have.

xtrasauce said:
I see something wrong with WB's approach of hiring people like David S Goyer.
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well he's not writing this one so it's fine I suppose.
 
Now just pull in Green Arrow and Flash from their tv shows and....yeah, JLA movie.

Just stop it, DC. We know you want to be Marvel. You're never going to be Marvel. Sorry.
 
Nemesis121 said:
It really is, I think WB is trying to set up other superhero movies by using Superman/Batman to gauge the interest in the other heroes...
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Or maybe they should just have faith in the source material and characters and just make good movies about them? You know, like Marvel did?

Instead they're just trying to take the shortcut to nab Avengers dollars. It's not really a surprise that people are skeptical.
 
I'm hyped. pretty sure the heroes won't show up till the end, while the main film will consist of superman, batman, lex, wonder woman.


All it needs is someone to show up at the future fortress of solitude and ask if he's heard of the justice league initiative.
 
I hope this is fake. Except for Cavill, I haven't liked any of the casting they've done for this film thus far. Disappointing to say the least.
 
I think at this point I'd rather they just went straight into Justice League, could be pretty awesome. I want to see the Bat suit already!
 
Colonel Nasty said:
Maybe all these characters will make people forget this is a sequel to Man of Steel.
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the movie was disappointing, but I was interested in a proper sequel. Could have done some interesting things with it given how fucked up everything was at the end.

Instead we get some Justice League shit that won't be set up as properly as Marvel did with Avengers.
 
Every fucking thread turns into this shit, it's a batman/superman film and these guys are going to get cameos's to set it up for the following Justice League film. The cyborg casting made that clear

We get that the film is going to be crap and to much bloat etc, time to move on
 
If Aquaman, great casting, but Exhibit S why DC still hasn't learned shit from how Marvel built their MCU and what made it successful. Too much up front with not enough to work off of. People will have trouble latching onto any character if there's not even groundwork for them already, especially considering people are already cozy with the MCU.
 
I think Jason Momoa is an awesome guy but I can't see him as Aquaman.

Also it's funny to see the difference between DC and Marvel's approach. Marvel had the confidence to greenlight Iron Man, Hulk, Captain America and Thor films, all B tier characters at the time. DC meanwhile is hoping the Superman/Batman name pulls their B tier characters out of obscurity, no confidence at all.

Though after the Green Lantern film bombed I can't really blame them for taking this approach.
 
enzo_gt said:
If Aquaman, great casting, but Exhibit S why DC still hasn't learned shit from how Marvel built their MCU and what made it successful. Too much up front with not enough to work off of. People will have trouble latching onto any character if there's not even groundwork for them already, especially considering people are already cozy with the MCU.
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Wb is not trying to learn from marvel. They've been trying to get a JL movie off the ground for years before the whole Avengers initiative was a twinkle in Kevin Feige's eye.

There's more than one way to skin a cat. Whether or not this movie is a success isn't going to hinge on how closely they follow Marvel, it's going to be all on execution. If they can execute a team up movie (and it's possible) right off the bat then the movie will be good. If they don't have the ability, then it wouldn't matter if they did a bunch if little lead up solo films first because they wouldn't be any good anyway.
 
hamchan said:
I think Jason Momoa is an awesome guy but I can't see him as Aquaman.

Also it's funny to see the difference between DC and Marvel's approach. Marvel had the confidence to greenlight Iron Man, Hulk, Captain America and Thor films, all B tier characters at the time. DC meanwhile is hoping the Superman/Batman name pulls their B tier characters out of obscurity, no confidence at all.

Though after the Green Lantern film bombed I can't really blame them for taking this approach.
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They don't even have confidence in other A properties, namely Wonder Woman.

If Marvel gets fucking GotG, Ant-Man and Black Panther out before we see a standalone Wonder Woman film, I don't know what to say. WB's decision making/approach seems completely reactionary and almost like they're forced into it. The key thing I don't think WB gets is that what made Avengers special was how they integrated so many of those characters we've seen and gotten to know before into one film, and they meshed. With this approach, they run the risk of a weak first impression.

Ninja Scooter said:
Wb is not trying to learn from marvel. They've been trying to get a JL movie off the ground for years before the whole Avengers initiative was a twinkle in Kevin Feige's eye.

There's more than one way to skin a cat. Whether or not this movie is a success isn't going to hinge on how closely they follow Marvel, it's going to be all on execution. If they can execute a team up movie (and it's possible) right off the bat then the movie will be good. If they don't have the ability, then it wouldn't matter if they did a bunch if little lead up solo films first because they wouldn't be any good anyway.
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While I don't disagree this is possible (anything is possible!), they're missing pretty fundamental lessons for why integrating different characters on the screen worked at all, see above. They're at a heavy risk of not giving enough exposure to these characters and just making them look like side attractions off the jump. Previous attempts at a JL movie are pretty irrelevant at this point, nothing came to fruition.
 
Reposting from a different thread:

BobbyRoberts said:
How bloated was Incredibles?
How bloated was Watchmen?
How bloated was Captain America: The Winter Soldier?
How bloated was The Avengers?
How bloated was X-Men?
How bloated was X2: X-Men United?
How bloated was X3: The...

...don't answer that one.

How bloated was X-Men First Class?
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enzo_gt said:
If Aquaman, great casting, but Exhibit S why DC still hasn't learned shit from how Marvel built their MCU and what made it successful. Too much up front with not enough to work off of. People will have trouble latching onto any character if there's not even groundwork for them already, especially considering people are already cozy with the MCU.
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It's pointless complaining about the direction WB/DC has gone in to establish their universe. They have decided to load up all their eggs(or most) in 1 basket and go from there. A concern of mine though is WB's expectations box-office wise, if this were to only make 700 million WW would the execs over at WB get cold feet going forward? Because that seems to be a real possibility.
 
WB isn't even being subtle about any more.

You're not going to call a movie with Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Cyborg "Batman vs Superman" or "Man of Steel 2".

It's going to be Justice League.
 
enzo_gt said:
They don't even have confidence in other A properties, namely Wonder Woman.

If Marvel gets fucking GotG, Ant-Man and Black Panther out before we see a standalone Wonder Woman film, I don't know what to say. WB's decision making/approach seems completely reactionary and almost like they're forced into it. The key thing I don't think WB gets is that what made Avengers special was how they integrated so many of those characters we've seen and gotten to know before into one film, and they meshed. With this approach, they run the risk of a weak first impression.
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Replace BP with Doctor Strange and you got a safe bet.
 
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