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Jason Momoa will play Lobo in the DCU
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March Climber
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This is how I pretty much know him, and his appearance in Young Justice too.
And every time he kicked everyone’s ass and then walked away because something else came up.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Tbf, no more so than RDJ playing Dr Doom in the same MCU he departed from with the death of Iron Man.
FunkMiller
Member
Oh, that's fucking stupid as well. Both companies are now at the point of scraping the barrel with their respective universes. At least Marvel did it right the first time around - they were the only ones!
Also, RDJ is at least in the same universe. Momoa is playing a different character, in a different universe, that still has some of the same characters in it. Dumb fucking mess.
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Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
"Lobo?"
Mainstream cinema audiences around the world react to DC pulling another unheard of character out of the vault.
Good luck with it, and I hope it's a good film, but I don't honestly know why they bother.
Mainstream cinema audiences around the world react to DC pulling another unheard of character out of the vault.
Good luck with it, and I hope it's a good film, but I don't honestly know why they bother.
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Doom85
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If Marvel and DC never bothered with characters that only comic fans would have ever heard of before they got a film, no chance these guys would have ever graced the silver screen:
Like, the first trailer leaned into the meta aspect hard with its opening bit when Peter dramatically calls himself Star-Lord, and the other guy is all, “who?” That was all non-comic readers’ reaction pre-summer 2014 when the first movie was announced and such.
Also, Aquaman, a character respected by those who actually read comics and/or watched the cartoon series of DC from the 90’s up to today, was considered “a joke” by many others who based their knowledge of the character entirely on a goofy cartoon from the 70’s.
Then Jason Momoa and James Wan said:
and just casually made Aquaman (2018), the highest grossing film in the DCEU sitting at a sweet 1.15 billion dollar box office.
Hell, the fact they’re having Jason Momoa, who again was the main star of their highest grossing film of their prior universe, play Lobo will draw plenty of attention from the non-comic readers alone. Also, he’s not immediately starring in his own film, he’s debuting in the Supergirl movie, and everybody knows who she is.
ManaByte
Member
Then Jason Momoa and James Wan said:
and just casually made Aquaman (2018), the highest grossing film in the DCEU sitting at a sweet 1.15 billion dollar box office.
To be fair, Wan just adapted Geoff Johna’ New 52 Aquaman run into a single movie. It was that run in the comics that changed things for Aquaman.
Doom85
Member
There were good runs for the character prior to that particularly Peter David’s. And Arthur’s visual appearance with his beard was more inspired from that run than the clean shaven one from the New 52 era.
Geoff Johns’ Aquaman run was a good seller, but even the highest comic runs sell in the hundreds of thousands tops, that’s a drop in a bucket compared to a highly successful film in reaching an audience. Like, even if we said it was $20 for every individual ticket, Aquaman 1 would have still sold 57 million tickets. The film crew still had to give the film good directing, acting, marketing, etc. to make it work, not just the script (which does take plenty from several New 52 runs, but ultimately adapts them in its own way). It’s not my favorite DCEU film, but I was happy to see it be as successful as it was.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
If Marvel and DC never bothered with characters that only comic fans would have ever heard of before they got a film, no chance these guys would have ever graced the silver screen:
Like, the first trailer leaned into the meta aspect hard with its opening bit when Peter dramatically calls himself Star-Lord, and the other guy is all, “who?” That was all non-comic readers’ reaction pre-summer 2014 when the first movie was announced and such.
Also, Aquaman, a character respected by those who actually read comics and/or watched the cartoon series of DC from the 90’s up to today, was considered “a joke” by many others who based their knowledge of the character entirely on a goofy cartoon from the 70’s.
Then Jason Momoa and James Wan said:
and just casually made Aquaman (2018), the highest grossing film in the DCEU sitting at a sweet 1.15 billion dollar box office.
Hell, the fact they’re having Jason Momoa, who again was the main star of their highest grossing film of their prior universe, play Lobo will draw plenty of attention from the non-comic readers alone. Also, he’s not immediately starring in his own film, he’s debuting in the Supergirl movie, and everybody knows who she is.
Well, I would dispute that to some degree, because while I don't think I'd heard of Gotg (and I must say I did enjoy the first movie), I had heard of Aquaman. Marvel also at least have the excuse that they've made successful films with lots of characters in their stable while DC have had less success.
DC have offered bomb after bomb is what it looks like to me as a non comic book fan, Suicide Squad, Black Adam, Shazam, the Flash
Meanwhile, everyone loves Batman so they commit to putting one out every five years!
From where I sit, it seems like there's a weird commitment to make comic book inspired movies, but the only reason to do so is strength of the story and audience recognition. With that in mind, I wonder why they don't just make a new superhero that is perfectly suited to their aims and current audience preferences rather than exhuming some IP that has very little cut through with the general public.
That's just how I see it, there might be loads of reasons that have gone over my head.
Doom85
Member
Well, I would dispute that to some degree, because while I don't think I'd heard of Gotg (and I must say I did enjoy the first movie), I had heard of Aquaman. Marvel also at least have the excuse that they've made successful films with lots of characters in their stable while DC have had less success.
DC have offered bomb after bomb is what it looks like to me as a non comic book fan, Suicide Squad, Black Adam, Shazam, the Flash
Meanwhile, everyone loves Batman so they commit to putting one out every five years!
From where I sit, it seems like there's a weird commitment to make comic book inspired movies, but the only reason to do so is strength of the story and audience recognition. With that in mind, I wonder why they don't just make a new superhero that is perfectly suited to their aims and current audience preferences rather than exhuming some IP that has very little cut through with the general public.
That's just how I see it, there might be loads of reasons that have gone over my head.
The point of Aquaman was they were still fighting an uphill battle against a general public misconception of the character.
The 2023 DC movies bombed primarily because it had already been announced there would be a new movie universe, so lots of people didn’t feel like watching films for a universe that wouldn’t get a proper ending. Aquaman 1 did incredible and Shazam 1 did pretty good while their sequels released in 2023 bombed because of this.
The 2021 Suicide Squad film bombed because it was a weekend when paranoia over a new COVID variant was at the highest. The first Suicide Squad movie in 2016 made a big profit, but it was also met with less favorable critic and audience reception, which also hurt the box office of the 2021 film despite it being widely considered a far better film in comparison.
March Climber
Member
Since everyone is bringing it up, yea, I'd like to thank Johns, Snyder, Wan, and Momoa all for taking Aquaman, who everyone considered lame regardless of feats, and potentially making him the 2nd or 3rd coolest DC character of all time and a top seller. A herculean effort (including right time right place) that I'm not sure will ever be matched in the future, at least not for a while.
I think a character who is seen as kind of lame right now (but with cool powers) is Green Lantern. Arguably all of them. Hoping the True Detective-style GL show they have planned will change that, whenever it comes out.
I think a character who is seen as kind of lame right now (but with cool powers) is Green Lantern. Arguably all of them. Hoping the True Detective-style GL show they have planned will change that, whenever it comes out.
Doom85
Member
Which is funny since the Geoff Johns era of Green Lantern, which lasted ten years, was a high seller, even sometimes outselling the main Batman title itself.
Most people who don’t know the comics at least know John Stewart was cool in the Justice League cartoon. Likewise Hal was pretty likable in the Green Lantern animated series from the early 2010’s. So a good show or movie should be easy to make non-readers realize the Green Lantern characters are generally great.
March Climber
Member
Sorry you're right about those points including John Stewart, and I should clarify. I'm hoping they make the live action movie/TV version of GL less lame. So far we have had the Ryan Reynolds version, the CW version, and teases from other shows here and there. I know people knock CW but they actually made Arrow relevant/cool and made people genuinely like The Flash for about 4ish seasons. On top of that, I feel like Guy (in the new Superman trailer) is going to be purposefully lame but potentially funny, which doesn't help with the GL image.
GL is a hero with a lot of potential and one of the first 5 members of the JL, but seems to be treated second-rate on the big screen, to the point where even Martian Manhunter made it in Snyder's version with a long end credits scene, but GL still didn't.
FunkMiller
Member
Lobo is basically DC's version of Deadpool (though he actually came first).
That's the beginning and end of why they're putting him in the DCU.
Doom85
Member
You honestly think they’re adapting Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow into a film, a comic that Tom King had said in an interview nearly two years ago that he wanted Lobo to be a part of, purely so they can have their own “Deadpool”?
ManaByte
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You honestly think they’re adapting Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow into a film, a comic that Tom King had said in an interview nearly two years ago that he wanted Lobo to be a part of, purely so they can have their own “Deadpool”?
Deathstroke is DC's Deadpool
and for some comedy:
rubik's dude
Member
It's giving Dr. Manhattan from the Watchmen show.good choice , miles better than that irish dude
mansoor1980
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FunkMiller
Member
Clearly not. Given that Slade was around before Wade, and is a po-faced, serious dude, who doesn't crack jokes. Deadpool is a parody of Deathstroke, certainly.
Lobo is a wise cracking anti-hero with an incredibly powerful healing ability, who breaks the fourth wall. He is DC's Deadpool. And they know that. Hence his inclusion in the DCU.
They could have also gone with Ambush Bug, but they obviously wanted to keep Momoa sweet so he didn't bitch and moan when the DCEU was shuttered.
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
ManaByte
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Badlucktroll
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ugh that joker and lady gaga movie was pure SHYTE
ManaByte
Member
I have zero desire to ever watch the first Joker movie again, let alone a garbage ego sequel.
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Calico345
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This. But will WB and DC have some balls and make it fucked up like Lobo was? I do not believe they will, sadly.
I wanna hear some OG Static X while some grimy shit goes down at the hands of Lobo. A crossover with him and Deadpool would be fun.
DeafTourette
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I don't think that's true for the sole reason the WRITER of the OG story originally wanted to include Lobo but was told not to... But he something to the effect of if it was ever turned into a movie, he wanted Lobo in it.
ManaByte
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
He's been saying he wanted to play Lobo for YEARS! What are you talking about? LoL
ManaByte
Member
There's video of him TEN YEARS AGO saying he wants to play Lobo.
DKehoe
Gold Member
I do think that there are probably actors out there who get told by their agent or someone in their team that there's a character they would be a good fit for and so should pretend they've always particularly loved that character to get fan support behind the casting. Like I'm not sure I really believe The Rock that Black Adam was a character who has meant a lot to him, more just a way to insert himself into a big franchise.
But with Momoa, who knows, maybe it's genuine.
Doom85
Member
Dwayne Johnson was at least mildly familiar with Shazam, as in the 2000’s (yes, him playing the role was being discussed a LONG time, even before the DCEU existed) he made a poll asking fans if they’d prefer him as Shazam (or Captain Marvel as the character was called at that time, changed to avoid confusion with the Marvel hero of the same codename) or Black Adam, and Black Adam won the poll.
The problem is his ego got in the way by the 2020’s, and he refused to let Black Adam be in Shazam 2 as he knew he’d have to ultimately lose their final fight and Dwayne Johnson didn’t like that (this is blatant due to how a lot of actors act in the Fast and Furious series, they keep track of blows exchanged in fights to keep it even, a lot of the main actors don’t allow themselves to take a hit that makes their character fall to the ground as they consider that humiliating, and the only major loss Dwayne Johnson suffers in the movies to my knowledge is against Idris Elba’s character who basically had super powers so I guess Johnson’s ego allowed that to make it the ONE exception).
Given his attitude about this, and if those rumors about him costing the Red One production an additional 50 million dollars by constantly showing up very late on set (so tons of production hours just wasted), he’s overdue for a reality check, stop hiring this guy until he learns to be a team player and not make it all about him.
simpatico
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omg he's literally me!!