rocketskates
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Yep
Warner Bros. Officially confirms "Justice League" to follow MoS Sequel
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BadAss2961
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I'd like to see him in it. But assuming we're talking more movies, he shouldn't be the villain that takes the L. He should appear in multiple films, having status as the most threatening monster heel in CBM history.
For awhile, anyone who actually fights him should lose badly.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Well luckily that was in the dark ages of comic movies, so I can only hope they're a lot more receptive to people who really understand comics now that they've proven to make a fortune.
Marion Cobretti
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I'd love to see a Brainiac movie.
Marion Cobretti
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BvS will be some epic movie about the two of them dealing with Lex, cliffhanger and all, leading into Justice League.
Justice will be... well, Justice League. Shit will go down too hard. At least 5 hours long between the two of them.
At which point, the universe will be fully realized, and the solo adventures can begin. Hopefully by then, they'll have so much Superman under their belt, tha they can do something really out there for the next solo Superman.
Justice will be... well, Justice League. Shit will go down too hard. At least 5 hours long between the two of them.
At which point, the universe will be fully realized, and the solo adventures can begin. Hopefully by then, they'll have so much Superman under their belt, tha they can do something really out there for the next solo Superman.
I agree. The two are going to be one long movie. I think they need another villain for BvS, unless they go straight with Lex baiting the two to fight.
I think in the third act they will team up and take somebody on. Maybe Metallo
BadAss2961
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It really is. One thing I honestly gotta thank the MCU for is lighting a fire under Warner Bros and shitting out their universe so we could finally get to the good shit.
Snyder's also the perfect guy for this genre. I'm stoked.
Miles Quaritch
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Whoa, we might get a Fables movie? Hope it's R rated....
Seriously, this is the biggest news from this. Everyone already knew JL wasn't far off, but a Fables movie? Got damn.
lovely ladies
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It would be awesome if they come up with a live action version of Legion of Doom as the villains but that's probably too expensive.
WordAssassin
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That article has them chest-thumping that they came up against Marvel for Cap 3 VS Batman/Superman and won, but I remember reading a shitload of stories here on GAF saying the exact opposite, that Warners backed down? Which is truth?
I said before it would be cool if they did an Avengers style lead up in the solo films before JLA 2, but focusing on the villains instead of the heroes. So we hit the sequel, all the villains from the previous films team up and fight the League.
Let's see how this goes. Not sure why there's all this criticism of "They're going straight to Justice League without any build-up like Marvel did with Avengers!" even though there are really two relevant movies you have to see to catch up for Avengers - Thor and Captain America. Otherwise, Iron Man is a rich smart dude in a robot suit, everyone knows who the Hulk is, Black Widow is Scarlet Johansen and Hawkeye has a bow. There.
We'll see how they handle the rest of the team. Some of these characters need more explanation than others, but some barely need a couple of lines, and others are pretty self explanatory.
I'm pushing for Brainiac, personally. Then Darkseid in JL 2
Yup. Get hype.
We'll see how they handle the rest of the team. Some of these characters need more explanation than others, but some barely need a couple of lines, and others are pretty self explanatory.
I'm pushing for Brainiac, personally. Then Darkseid in JL 2
Yup. Get hype.
PhantomZone
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Man of Steel sucked, Superman vs Batman would need to be a substantial improvement for me to care about Justice League.
BadAss2961
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No DC news:
"LOL, DC is so behind!"
"LULZ, I can't believe we're getting ________ before (enter DC thing here)!"
World's Finest and Justice League announcements:
"This is rushed and will be terrible."
Wiktor
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Nah. DC has lot of imprints that do not take place in their main continuity. Plus even among those that do, there's no way Snyder will do them all. For example..he won't do Sandman.
lol
Could be worse, Shamalamadingdong and Snyder co-directing
Batman IS Superman IS Darkseid IS Lois Lane IS Lex Luthor revealed in slow motion over a 45 minute shot
DXLelouch153
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how can you make a Justice League Movie with only 3 Super Heroes
thats not a League thats a team
should call it Justice Team instead
thats not a League thats a team
should call it Justice Team instead
....huh?
peanutbutterlatte
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I don't know where the idea that the majority of the Justice League is better known than the Avengers came from.
DXLelouch153
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never mind i didnt know about the rumored other superheroes
still 6-7 still isnt a league
edit:everyone knows who the Avengers are
or didnt everyone forget that the leader is America incarnate pretty much
brandonh83
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What a fucking horrible title considering how ironic it would be
It practically begs for bad review headlines on Rotten Tomatoes.
"The World's Finest may not be so "finest" after all har har!"
-some clever, random critic
k, well they've been wrong for 60-some years then. No point changing it now.
There were two Hulk movies prior, and even though they're not directly connected, it gets the character out there. Black Widow had a major part in Iron Man 2, and Hawkeye was at least introduced in Thor. Not to mention setting up Fury and Shield in both Iron Man 2 and Captain America. Marvel laid some serious groundwork. If DC doesn't do the same, they're going to spend too much time in the Justice League movie just establishing the characters, and it'll be a mess like the Hobbit movie.
At this point, the "DC needs to catch up" argument needs to be retired. They can't catch up. Not in the sense that most people are talking about. As long as we keep looking at this like a race, WB/DC will never be right.
They need to make a good movie. Several good movies. World's Finest could be the first of those. Or not. But yeah. They lost the race.
Having a vagina means she only gets 1 life with no continues.
The traditional JLA lineup is seven characters: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, Aquaman, and Martian Manhunter (or in recent times, Cyborg).
Even if they don't know shit about them, people recognize Wonder Woman and sorta know sparse details like "lasso of truth" or "invisible jet", or they get that The Flash moves fast. And they obviously know Batman or Superman.
With Avengers, before the movies, they recognize the Hulk as a dude who gets mad and smashes stuff and maybe even have hears of "gamma rays" before, and they probably can pick out Captain America from a lineup (although know nothing about his origin). But Iron Man, Thor, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, etc.? Those weren't in the public consciousness at all before the movies.
immortal-joe
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I just realized, Snyder should just be a DP, not a director. His passion seems to stem from forming those dramatic frames and "money shots", so he should just focus on that.
Whatever DC does probably won't be as confusing as the Fast and Furious method. That franchise made a trilogy then made another trilogy that takes place inside the first trilogy. And they had some short films in the middle of all that. That said all the characters there had a decent chance to shine before Fast Five and Furious Six, which were basically like the Avengers/Justice League for that franchise.
I am really curious to see how DC handles so many new characters with little to no backstory and not a lot of screen time.
I am really curious to see how DC handles so many new characters with little to no backstory and not a lot of screen time.
Razgriz-Specter
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Before the movies that was absolute fact.
Wonder Woman, Flash and Green Lantern were much more well known than Iron Man, Captain America and Thor.
Martian Manhunter was the only one below the majority of the Avengers.
Other than the word "Avengers" used once at the end, there's nothing that carries forward from Iron Man 1 that matters other than "Tony Stark is Iron Man".
People know who Hulk is. Doesn't matter if they know shit about Bruce Banner or anything. A guy getting mad and becoming the Hulk has been in the public consciousness for a long fucking time. There are no significant details in the Incredible Hulk that anyone needs to know to see Avengers aside from maybe that Banner was trying to recreate a "WW2 supersoldier program". And they explain that in a single sentence in Avengers. There's your relevant information.
Black Widow was a complete non-character in Iron Man 2. She was his "assistant" and then suddenly is wearing a catsuit and can punch dudes. We know nothing about her beyond that. That's not groundwork. Her entire first scene in Avengers does a completely fine job of explaining that she's a superspy who can kick-ass.
Fury shows up, yells at Stark for like 2 minutes, but nothing about SHIELD is explained in Iron Man 2. We never see how they operate, what they're capable of, a helicarrier, or anything else other than a box that has stuff for "Tony to figure out his heart". They want the Iron Man suit for "the Avengers initiative" which is never actually even explained until The Avengers anyway. We still know absolutely nothing about Fury in any meaningful capacity that can't be explained in a half-sentence.
Thor shows off the crazy Asgard side of the story, it explains both Thor and Loki, it has their conflict, and at the end, Loki is lost in space. It has SHIELD way more active than they are in Iron Man 2, and at the end, you have Nick Fury with the teseract.
Cap shows how he becomes who he is, it has Hydra with the teseract, and Cap getting frozen. At the end, he wakes up, and there's Fury who is clearly a big important government guy in some capacity which is really all we knew about him before.
Thor and Cap 1 are literally the only two movies that have any important story details relevant to the Avengers that can't be summed up in a sentence.
Avengers opens by establishing its characters. If you had never seen any of the solo films and you went into Avengers cold, they establish the characters enough so that you get a feel for who they are. JL would do the same then the solo movies can either take place before JL or after.
Discotheque
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Snyder has such a good eye for visuals. The scene with young clark playing with a cape or him hovering over the army just looked incredible. Too bad I don't really like his films but I like the way they look all the time.
best looking batman incoming. now let's hope they fix that script.
the world building in marvel movies prior to avengers wasn't really important for the plot. it didn't really matter that much imo. what it did contribute though was the box office take. they were building hype through the individual films.
a bunch of solos is not that big a deal for DC. and frankly i'm glad they didn't give everybody solo films prior to this. i'd probably get sick of seeing superman or whoever cameoing in everything.
sick of samuel jackson nick fury for instance.
Yeah, first 30-40 minutes of Avengers was pure character introduction material. After that slow section, movie started picking up its pace.
As an avid comic reader in the 80s and 90s era, Avengers barely registered for me, for anyone I knew or anyone I ever met who wasn't much older. It wasn't until New Avengers that modern Marvel - and the modern reputation of the Avengers really came together.
Justice League was still a thing throughout that entire time, even if it sagged in-between JLI and Morrison. Justice League should be easier than Avengers, but the whole original point of the Justice League was that 80% of the roster could support their own world outside of the League.
That WB think they can skip all the groundwork Marvel put in that made Avengers possible and as damn successful as it was just screams that it doesn't matter how good the end result might be, the executives making the decisions are missing the point.
The fact that Black Widow is the most well known female superhero in the world right now is a complete failure of DC and speaks volumes about how damn well Marvel has done. Black Widow was a nobody for anyone outside of fandom.
Introducing Wonder Woman in the same movie as a new Batman is one thing, and I could almost forgive a Trinity movie in disguise (even if I still think introducing her that way is dumb), but no. We're getting all this world building and all these new characters in one fucking movie. Introducing Wonder Woman in the same breath as Aquaman and Cyborg diminishes how iconic she is supposed to be.
And as an aside, Green Lantern should be John Stewart. Justice League cartoon Green Lantern re-defined the character in the same way Batman Animated did for Freeze, except they decided to ignore it.
Justice League was still a thing throughout that entire time, even if it sagged in-between JLI and Morrison. Justice League should be easier than Avengers, but the whole original point of the Justice League was that 80% of the roster could support their own world outside of the League.
That WB think they can skip all the groundwork Marvel put in that made Avengers possible and as damn successful as it was just screams that it doesn't matter how good the end result might be, the executives making the decisions are missing the point.
The fact that Black Widow is the most well known female superhero in the world right now is a complete failure of DC and speaks volumes about how damn well Marvel has done. Black Widow was a nobody for anyone outside of fandom.
Introducing Wonder Woman in the same movie as a new Batman is one thing, and I could almost forgive a Trinity movie in disguise (even if I still think introducing her that way is dumb), but no. We're getting all this world building and all these new characters in one fucking movie. Introducing Wonder Woman in the same breath as Aquaman and Cyborg diminishes how iconic she is supposed to be.
And as an aside, Green Lantern should be John Stewart. Justice League cartoon Green Lantern re-defined the character in the same way Batman Animated did for Freeze, except they decided to ignore it.
Razgriz-Specter
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You are contradicting yourself,
You say that Black Widow being the biggest female hero is a failure on DC's part and that WB isn't following Marvel's groundwork, yet Marvel did the same damn thing that DC is now doing.
Marvel shoehorned her into Iron Man 2(which was widely criticised at the time) and she coasted into the Avengers spotlight, DC is taking Wonder Woman and putting her in "Superman 2".
Guys it'll be fine. Laying groundwork implies that WB care about establishing characters, they're just walk onto the set, yell "I am a character in this movie therefore you should care about me" and walk off. There introduction done and obviously there will be great impact when they are in peril because they are a guy who was on screen briefly.
Yeah that really pissed me off too. Lame excuse and transparent as hell to boot.
People bitching you need solo film first or do marvel. Just read the first few issues of New 52 Justice League it shows have goddamn easy it is to introduce multiple characters.Geez just suffer watching JL:War if you have fault too.
All it took was few lines saying who character was with some dickish comments from Green lantern. Have Vic stone become cyborg in the film so he can be introduced to audience as he be character
people less likely know.
It not hard geez
All it took was few lines saying who character was with some dickish comments from Green lantern. Have Vic stone become cyborg in the film so he can be introduced to audience as he be character
plot device
It not hard geez
I wonder what they'll do with GL. I really wouldn't mind if they brought Reynolds back. A little humor isn't a bad thing
Rajack
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Especially since Jordan has more than his fair share of wise cracks in the comics.
beyond_death
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So it seems Snyder is going to single-handedly bring the DC universe to the movie format. I'm so glad I like him.
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