Stone Ocean
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It'll probably be a slow-ass musket style shotgun.
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RUMOR: Project Beast (From Software/Sony Japan Studio, PS4) [Port begging = ban]
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Krusenstern
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You skipped one hell of a game then. Make sure to catch up on it if possible, because even without comparing it to the other games Dark Souls is a masterpiece on so many levels.
I don't really see how firearms fit into the Souls universe. They make sense in Shadow Tower Abyss's universe, but don't really feel reconcilable in high fantasy. Shadow Tower Abyss focused more on the alien aspects of a game world, and there's a lot of juxtaposition in the images here, that there are both zombies and maybe zombie dogs (ragged looking dogs) and guns gives me a more The Walking Dead-type vibe.
that's incorrect, Sonys paying for the game to be made. period. not for it to be taken away from other consoles. this isn't a moneyhat situation.
At the time of release people were praising DS2 saying it was definitely an improvement in many areas, so I decided to pick it up.
PetriP-TNT
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I boarded the hype train when I saw "Project Beast (Fr"
How about not wasting resources in a port when you can focus the development on a fully next gen console.
LegendofDragoonLives
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I don't either. I just used the simplistic formula of "successful game" + "makes money" = "more of those games will be made" which has followed every single franchise I can think of during last generation in consoles.
No, but nobody should expect them to.
I do feel like it's a bit strange how grotesque the game looks compared to earlier one. Miyazaki talked about wanting enemies to have "dignity" which seems a bit less apparent in the screenshots.
Still genuinely hoping it's not a sequel, but yeah, if it is a sequel to anything, it's probably more likely Shadow Tower Abyss than anything form the Souls series.I like the idea of guns being present. While I haven't played Shadow Tower Abyss the idea of sparsely found ammo but the possibility of gunplay to be really cool. It seems to match the atmosphere there fine enough
He also played arguably the best one.
The inclusion of a shotgun as a weapon doesn't all the sudden take away from it being a Souls game. It will still have castles, dungeons, caves, and various other things that make Souls' worlds so interesting to explore. A shotgun won't change that.
DS2 (IMO) is a major improvement in alot of places, but lacked in a few places (there is less impressive texture work in DS2 compared to DS1).
Yea, and I'd argue that all day. Dark Souls is much better than Demon, IMO.
DS2 (IMO) is a major improvement in alot of places, but lacked in a few places (there is less impressive texture work in DS2 compared to DS1).
Yea, and I'd argue that all day. Dark Souls is much better than Demon, IMO.
That's the problem. It's arguable. I'd argue he didn't...but he did miss out on a good game regardless of it being inferior to demon's.
sublimit
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You have been listening to the wrong kind of people.It still is a very good game but the first game is the far superior one.
Dude it totally changes that. Having guns would completely invalidate a high fantasy setting. Those two things just don't mesh. A shotgun in particular changes it even more.
I hope your not serious.
I'm just gonna continue disagree.
Wouldn't expect any, and it's the weekend.
I actually wrote out a huge ass reply before deciding that surely they aren't serious. I hope.
MMaRsu
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Is this sarcasm?
I'd disagree. It'll be no different then any other limited use ranged ability or item. Like a bow, crossbow or spell. I can't imagine we're going to get some spaz pump action gun in there. It'll be double barrels, muskets, flintlock. Slow reloading weapons. Mechanically it won't change anything...stylistically it obviously will.
LOL awful
Wtf man. There are 3 *current gen* consoles out and Sony is funding this game henceforth it's exclusive to the Sony hardware. That's all there is to it.
I don't think so, they have crossbows, so they have a refined sense of ballistics, and seemingly gun powder.
Eh, they have probably had a skeleton crew on for longer given the longer development time, and most of the Dark Souls 2 team probably shifted over as that project was winding down. There is nothing to suggest that this project has an order of magnitude higher budget than whatever Dark Souls 2 had.
If you add guns into a game, you cannot suspend disbelief to the point that you still accept a fantasy setting. Shadow Tower Abyss had the good sense to admit that the time period was past the point of simple melee weapons and that guns were pretty much always the better choice. Melee weapons were used because of the fact that their "ammunition" wasn't limited, but guns in that game were always conserved for tougher enemies. You cannot have a fantasy setting with guns. If you put them in a historical setting it drastically changes the way in which the setting play itself out. Every historical setting or fantasy setting where firearms were added greatly changed the manner in which that environment brought plausibility to itself.
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Almost a million views on a 1 day old topic. Holy shit.
Whats the record on GAF? I'm sure higher, but whats the longest topic, topic with most page views, and quickest rate of views?
Sony got some good marketing out of this one, official or not. It's even hitting the bigger site now.
Whats the record on GAF? I'm sure higher, but whats the longest topic, topic with most page views, and quickest rate of views?
Sony got some good marketing out of this one, official or not. It's even hitting the bigger site now.
But the Souls games aren't high fantasy, they're definitely dark fantasy.
I don't think it is trying to be, I think people want it to be. But I agree with this assessment.
Psycho_Mantis
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I'm pretty sure this has broken the record
CarbonByGravity
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Which bigger sites?
Karsticles
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Does thuway ever "leak" things that aren't just echoes? Honest question, because it seems like he only talks about whatever has been talked about.
Guns invalidate only the cookie-cutter Tolkien brand of fantasy you seem to be referencing.
There's plenty of incredible other branches of fantasy that can incorporate rifles and handguns. And contrary to "real" fantasy, they are often not completely done to death in every medium possible already.
Parakeetman
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I like the idea of guns being present. While I haven't played Shadow Tower Abyss the idea of sparsely found ammo but the possibility of gunplay to be really cool. It seems to match the atmosphere there fine enough
Firearms and all the other weapons made sense, due to over the centuries various people tried to venture deep within the "dungeon" and apparently failed leaving you with various loot to find lol. Was a pretty cool setting actually.
RustyNails
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Is famousmortimer perma'd?
That's because you're thinking of it in a modern style. There were guns being used in real life in the same stylstic shape since the 15th - 16th century though not as prevalent. I'm sure you can find some early 16th century guns on google.
Yes.
Pound_lb003
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It's not just sarcasm, it's high-sarcasm.
How redundant is the term high-fantasy when used to describe the Souls games
indigo-cyclops
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Totally agree. I feel the same. I feel like the series, or the "mise en scène" needs a shakeup to maintain the brilliance. I hope this game is just that.
Well I guess it raises the question of what the series is. The inclusion of the Souls suffix means very little really. If this game has it or not shouldn't set certain requirements, it's just marketing. I think they should use the title personally, but we'll see.
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