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Joni

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I just remembered something....

Coulson said Ward can speak six languages. Ward is in his mid twenties at the oldest. That's a helluva accomplishment in 15 years. So, Ward, was not only able to speak six languages fluently, but also able to learn a plethora of combat techniques, infiltration training, able to fool a lie detector, jump training, etc. etc. He's totally fucking Taskmaster.

I think that is a typical idiot writer that wants to show someone is a genius. Half of all TV characters talk 90 languages and are experts in thousands of fields at the same time.
 

Rookwood

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Rewatched 1x17 "Turn, Turn, Turn" and Ward's fight scene still blows my mind. Better than anything I've seen on Arrow if I have to be honest.
 

Rookwood

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You on some fucking crack, man?

Nah. I stand by what I said. Ward's fight scene taking out like a dozen dudes > any fight scene in Arrow, IMO.

Actually, to be perfectly transparent I've been leaning towards SHIELD over Arrow as of late. I've always thought it had better actors and acting and recently I think it's surpassed Arrow in writing, though not by much. Arrow remains superior in action sequences, but that one fight scene with Ward has impressed me more than anything I've seen on Arrow. Not by a lot, but it did.

Not trying to start a huge SHIELD versus Arrow debate though since I love both.
 

Zen

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Have Marvel hinted that the Heroes from the netflix deal can appear in AOS? I thought I heard something about that in during the whole Disney Marvel event they just had.
 
Man-Thing without the whole Nexus of All Realities thing is less interesting to me, but I can't imagine the MCU wanting to introduce alternate realities anytime soon.
 

Rookwood

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Have Marvel hinted that the Heroes from the netflix deal can appear in AOS? I thought I heard something about that in during the whole Disney Marvel event they just had.

I hadn't even considered the possibility. That would be awesome.

Damn, this is insane. I'd rather watch a million Roy wall-flips than the shoddy excuse for fight scenes on SHIELD.

Did you see the particular fight scene I'm referring to, cause if you do I doubt you'd call it a shoddy excuse even if you disagree with me on how good it is.
 

J10

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Man-Thing without the whole Nexus of All Realities thing is less interesting to me, but I can't imagine the MCU wanting to introduce alternate realities anytime soon.

That's how we get Spider-Man/X-Men crossovers, you fool. Man-Thing is the key.
 
Did you see the particular fight scene I'm referring to, cause if you do I doubt you'd call it a shoddy excuse even if you disagree with me on how good it is.

I've seen every episode of SHIELD, and while it was perhaps the best fight scene they've ever done it still pales in comparison to the typical one on Arrow.
 

Zen

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I hadn't even considered the possibility. That would be awesome.

Well, all of AOS will be on netflix in 2015... They announced it during the event.

Rockwood said:
I strongly disagree. A typical Arrow fight scene doesn't quite compare in my book.

My general impression of Arrow fight scenes is that they have been made around actors who do not have much if any professional fighting (or film fighter) experience. The actor who plays Ward clearly has this and it shows in every fight you see him in.

EDIT: I asked a friend who has done everything from kickboxing to medieval reenactment and he confirmed my suspicions at least with Arrow/Oliver himself which is mainly my exposure.
 
If they went that route, I wonder if they would actually let him do full on Taskmaster things like start carrying a shield and sword, or actually start dressing like a skeleton pirate. I know considering the tone of the show, and what they already established of Wards character, it would be super weird to go that route, but man would I love it.

Classic costume is probably not happening, but something close to the Udon design would work pretty well in the MCU.
 

Cynar

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I just remembered something....

Coulson said Ward can speak six languages. Ward is in his mid twenties at the oldest. That's a helluva accomplishment in 15 years. So, Ward, was not only able to speak six languages fluently, but also able to learn a plethora of combat techniques, infiltration training, able to fool a lie detector, jump training, etc. etc. He's totally fucking Taskmaster.
No. Just no.
 
Read his wiki page. The connections seem obvious enough.

So do the connections linking Skye to being Jessica Drew.

Not sure if either will happen though... but what if they both do?

Jessica Drew wiki said:
To save her life, her father injects her with an experimental serum...

After Jessica's parents disappear under mysterious circumstances, Jessica is recruited into HYDRA (under false pretenses), where she is made into a formidable fighter and assassin. She is trained and mentored by Taskmaster, who schools her in many martial disciplines and more than seven different fighting styles out of his own "arsenal".

Taskmaster wiki said:
The Taskmaster is often hired as a training instructor by various criminal organizations, as well as S.H.I.E.L.D. and the U.S. government. In Taskmaster vol.2 #3 (2011), the character was revealed to be a S.H.I.E.L.D. sleeper agent planted by Nick Fury to gather intelligence in the criminal underworld.

A mercenary, he has no ideology except that of his employer.

those are just 2 quick snippets, but I'm sure you can find some other vague things that may relate to Agents of SHIELD.
 

Slayven

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Taskmaster is about stacking paper. Even than he would not take a long term undercover job because that shit would quickly put you in the red. Plus the whole Alzheimer thing would make ti difficult, someone would have seen him watching refresher videos.
 
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Deleted member 13876

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Taskmaster is about stacking paper. Even than he would not take a long term undercover job because that shit would quickly put you in the red. Plus the whole Alzheimer thing would make ti difficult, someone would have seen him watching refresher videos.

The memory in, memory out thing is fairly recent as far as I know and they can always pick and choose the stuff they like. The money angle is fairly important though.
 

Slayven

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The memory in, memory out thing is fairly recent as far as I know and they can always pick and choose the stuff they like. The money angle is fairly important though.

He doesn't kill for free, except in defense, even than they have to be annoying . Even the time he pretended to be Captain America and lead the avengers on a fake mission, he cut out half way and told AIM to fuck themselves and their money because it was getting too risky.
 
I ... don't think he's Taskmaster. He hasn't shown any skills that would link him to that character ... hell, May sees to be more so known for her offensive power.
 
Crazy guess and mildly fun thought..season ends with
Skye being sincerely convinced to join Hydra and being trained by Taskmaster/Ward who is revealed after the credits, by Fury, to be his triple agent
 
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He doesn't kill for free, except in defense, even than they have to be annoying . Even the time he pretended to be Captain America and lead the avengers on a fake mission, he cut out half way and told AIM to fuck themselves and their money because it was getting too risky.

Yeah, he's live to fight another day, whereas Ward seems very loyal to Garett here due to some perceived debt obligation. The 6 language thing is impressive for a random person, but for an elite spy it doesn't really reach the realm of the extraordinary.
 

strobogo

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Ward being a triple agent seems very likely to me. Or at least a redemption angle. I haven't seen the last episode, but from the point he had his heel turn, the first thing I thought about was how much it is going to suck when it turns out he was a triple agent or ends up being redeemed.
 

Anoregon

The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Ward clearly isn't Taskmaster YET, but I could see a series of events getting him there. Kills Garrett to save Skye, so he's ostracized from both Hydra and Shield, and in the process finds himself exposed to whatever macguffin they choose to give him photographic reflexes. He becomes totally jaded after turning from the one thing he's relied/believed in for his whole adult life, so uses his new abilities to get that cheddar.

I mean it's a stretch, but I could see it.
 
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Ward clearly isn't Taskmaster YET, but I could see a series of events getting him there. Kills Garrett to save Skye, so he's ostracized from both Hydra and Shield, and in the process finds himself exposed to whatever macguffin they choose to give him photographic reflexes. He becomes totally jaded after turning from the one thing he's relied/believed in for his whole adult life, so uses his new abilities to get that cheddar.

I mean it's a stretch, but I could see it.

I'd like that better than him secretly being Taskmaster now.
 

Fiktion

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I'd like that better than him secretly being Taskmaster now.
If they go that route the whole first season will obviously be, in retrospect, the origin story for both Jessica Drew and Taskmaster.

It was an origin story all along and we didn't realize it.
 

Anoregon

The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
I'd like that better than him secretly being Taskmaster now.

I could even see it going a step further, with him building up underground and mercenary connections to keep tabs on shit to make sure Skye isn't in immediate danger. That would be a slight departure from the comic book Taskmaster angle, but it could work for the show. Sort of a combination of comic TM and Spike from later seasons of Buffy, without the rapey stuff.
 
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If they go that route the whole first season will obviously be, in retrospect, the origin story for both Jessica Drew and Taskmaster.

It was an origin story all along and we didn't realize it.

You darn kids with your Jessica Drews.
 

danielcw

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But something obviously is there and probably ties into their shared Chinese backgrounds.

That would be a happy accident, because likely neither character was created with an
Asian
background.
If they wanted May to be Asian,
they wouldn't have called her Althea Rice initially.
The last name was changed after Ming Na was cast, because it would likely be considered politically incorrect to have Asian Rice.

The writers (the Whedons) knew about Winter Solider's game changing twists before they wrote the pilot, and I guess they made up their basic 2 year plan before or while writing the pilot as well.
If it mattered that May and Skye have a shared ethnicity, they would have known before casting.
But of course the plan could have changed - they have to adapt to schedules, etc. - or it was a happy accident.
 

kirblar

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If they go that route the whole first season will obviously be, in retrospect, the origin story for both Jessica Drew and Taskmaster.

It was an origin story all along and we didn't realize it.
I googled Ward/Taskmaster and a guy at MTV doing recaps actually called the connection with Ward immediaetly. No idea how you'd see it so early.
 

Anoregon

The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
I'm not familiar with the character Taskmaster and why Ward is supposedly him. Can someone please explain this to me?

Taskmaster is a villain and occasional anti-hero in the comics. There is nothing specifically that ties him to ward right now, other than Taskmaster's original origin story being that he was in shield before going on to mercenary/shadier work. His whole deal is that he has "photographic reflexes", which essentially means he can watch someone do something and then replicate it perfectly. So if he were to watch Hawkeye do his thing for a little while, he would become one of the world's best marksman. This wasn't an innate ability, it was something that developed as a result of exposure to something while a shield agent.

People linking Taskmaster to Ward is mostly wishful thinking I guess, but it could work because hey, why not. He's the perfect type of character that isn't big enough for the movies, but could function very effectively in the TV show.
 
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