MikeE21286
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This is automatically my most hyped game.
Looks incredible.
Looks incredible.
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RUMOR: Project Beast (From Software/Sony Japan Studio, PS4) [Port begging = ban]
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Not the PVP. The game itself. It's about precision and reaction. It's just more fun at a higher framerate. I recommend trying DS1 with DSFix and switch between 30 and 60 on the fly for testing the difference. And then come back here and post your opinion.
lol
If you want to talk about "competitive", the very first thing to do is talk about MASSIVE improvements to the actual net code, not worry about a difference of 17ms!
Edit: I see that you were apparently talking about "competitive singleplayer" (huh?), so nevermind.
gundamkyoukai
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Don't care if 60 or 30 fps even thought i would like more eye candy .
What From really need to do is have better animation and collision detection because no matter the fps those could use some work .
What From really need to do is have better animation and collision detection because no matter the fps those could use some work .
TheLostBigBoss
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You're treading dangerous territory, I would chill it with the stealth port begging dude. Don't want to get whacked for a silly thing.
Napalm_Frank
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I wonder how dissapointed people will be if this strays too far from the basic Souls formula. Seems to me most people already expect this to be pretty much the same game as previous ones.
Id kinda be disappointed if its the same game. I want a fresh take on the Souls formula.
Krusenstern
Banned
I agree. The animations in Dark Souls 2 were a step down from the first game. So I really want to see them putting at least the same amount of care into animations they did in the first Dark Souls.
PensivePen
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I think it would be interesting if they stuck closer to the original formula with one franchise and used the other to experiment with new ideas.
The decision to use mocap rather than hand animation seems like it didn't work out in their favor. Though I wonder if it was easier on the development staff.
It's not a port beg. I'm wishing that they go for 60FPS on console after experienceing DS1 and 2 at 60FPS on PC in comparison to their console counterparts.
I hope it strays a ton.
An exclusive, after the two Dark Souls games, is the perfect time to take some serious risks with the "series".
The framerate in DS1+2 had some pretty bad drops in some areas, DeS less so. I'm saying From has never seemed to prioritize framerate so expecting that of them of them now will probably lead to disappointment.
Yep. I wouldn't want them to call it dark souls and then stray, but that's not what this looks like. It's a pedigree I trust making a game.
velociraptor
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To be fair the Souls series has a loyal following. I imagine the game will sell pretty well on the PS4.
True.
But it's new hardware, you never know. And maybe, just maybe, they played their own game on the PC with dsfix.
Krusenstern
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I actually expect this to feel different from the other Souls games in terms of gameplay. Not "King's Field to Demon's Souls"-different, but still having significantly other emphases in combat. Maybe guns aren't just secondary weapons and could be used as primary weapons. Or they completely replace magic powers in this game.
Precision and reaction? This is not Ninja gaiden. Dark souls is a pretty slow paced action game. Enemy animations are slow and have huge delays to allow the player to read the movement and react accordingly. The speed of the rolling action, spell casting and most great or ultra weapons also speak for themselves. This gameplay design is perfectly fit for 30 fps as it doesn't require fast player reflexes at all, just brains to observe and learn.Not the PVP. The game itself. It's about precision and reaction. It's just more fun at a higher framerate. I recommend trying DS1 with DSFix and switch between 30 and 60 on the fly for testing the difference. And then come back here and post your opinion.
I'd say Flamelurker was the only boss in the souls series that truely required some reflex skills.
I feel like removing magic would necessitate big changes to the design/lore of the series. Maybe placing it in a supplementary role would be better than removing it entirely? Of course this assumes the game is meant to be in line with the existing Souls games.
blastprocessor
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Sorry to sound like a newbie here but why 1 million views here? Does the game have some history with Sony gamers?
Psycho_Mantis
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Sounds reasonable.
Bwahahahaahahaha!
Try the difference yourself and tell me it's not world's better afterwards.
Its a signifcant difference but not mandatory.
I would rather have better graphics and 30 fps locked than 60 fps and graphics that are worse.
Besides its not like the PS4 is lacking in power and I doubt FROM and SCEJ are going to push it to its limit.
Biggest cult hit of lat gen. Souls are considered by many people as the games of the generation. Sequel, now with the creator, for next gen is going to cause a lot of hype.
Demon's Souls was a PS3 exclusive, and the series is very popular with the hardcore audience in general.
Krusenstern
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Don't know what exactly you mean but Demon's Souls ran at 30 fps on PS3.
If the rumors are true its being made by the guys who did Demon Souls/Dark Souls 1, with the former being a PS3 exclusive.
Demon's Souls is exclusive to PS3; Dark Souls 1+2 can hit 60 on PC, DS1 only with mods.
From the looks of it, everyone that's talking about this like gamefaqs, gametrailers forums, n4g, etc. have all linked to this thread.
Not 100% sure if sarcasm radar is broken, but just in case: it's resonating this much (partly) because it might in fact be that rumored sequel / spiritual successor to the PS3 exclusive Demon's Souls which was also co-developed by FROM and Sony Japan Studios. The fact that this new game very likely implies the return of director Hidetaka Miyazaki - who directed Demon's Souls and Dark Souls as well (but NOT Dark Souls 2 - hence the opinion by some, not me necessarily, that this third game is inferior in some ways) - helps a lot too.
The rest of this pre-e3 hype train's speed - it's just GAF going nuts as usual I think ;-)
Edit: jeez, this thread continues to move faster than light. Already 5 responses or so in the few minutes it took me to type mine :-O
Dragon1893
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The franchise needs something new. I love DS2 but it's hard to deny that it feels formulaic.
Unlike going from Demon's to Dark, Dark 2 felt like more of the same and not even as good.
A breath of fresh air would be welcome but of course the fundamentals of what makes a Souls game shouldn't be touched.
30 in development, 20 in the first year, 2 have been canned since (Stig's game, SCE London restructuring). Note that this only accounts for SCEWWS's output.
Very likely
Pound_lb003
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Ehhh, not to be nitpicky, but the guys and girls at Heavy Spectrum aren't particularly skewed to ex Studio Liverpool devs, by any means - if at all.
Krusenstern
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They did report on far more ambiguous rumors than this, so it's strange that major sites haven't picked this up.
I would wait for monday.
Ok so do you think this might possibly be one of those titles that makes it one of this years BIG sony AAA titles ?
Backfoggen
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Brad from GB reacted weird to the game being mentioned by just saying "yep" a bunch. Could be interpreted as him dancing around the topic cause of an nDa.
Some have commented on it on twitter and such, but considering the source I'm sure they're reluctant to post any sort of news article on it.
Or, yeah, NDA.
It could be, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a 2015 title.
Pound_lb003
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Nope. That means it'd have to have been shown. Most of the press have speculated about Demon's Souls 2.
I suspect, it's a few things:
- That it leaked on Friday evening
- That most of the rumour's substance comes from 4chan
- It's harder to verify Japanese stuff for Western journalists.
Psycho_Mantis
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I dunno if you guys have noticed but there are usually very few if any insights in Japanese game development from western journos whether its leaks, lay offs, deals etc
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