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[Sandfox]

So is Iwata implying that that a new device will be launching in China?

 

[nckillthegrimace]

"we still think we can sell 100 million consoles again like we did with the wii, we are going to keep pushing gimmicks until one works"

...what does that have to do with what you quoted?

 

[Maintenance]

@gibbogame

Yeah, because that is what I like about Nintendo, not their games, something "special".

Spoiler

/s

 

[antonz]

wut
Lower prices incoming?

Not for the main markets. His statement is these other markets don't want the games we play. We have to make special ones for them

 

[Lunar15]

So is Iwata implying that that a new device will be launching in China?

He could be referring mainly to software. The Digital/F2P push, specifically.

Otherwise they have to compete with piracy and a nation that basically hinges upon F2P models.

 

[Oersted]

I think half my confusion with NFC is that I don't actually know what skylanders and disney infinity actually play like, or what the figures do.

Go to a retailer and try it out.

 

[PaulExcellent]

I'll be there day 1 for NFC.

 

[Protagonist Jake]

Not for the main markets. His statement is these other markets don't want the games we play. We have to make special ones for them

ok... makes... sense I guess.

 

[udivision]

wut
Lower prices incoming?

read the beginning of that sentence again...

 

[oatmeal]

Well, we know that the Wii U will have the best 2014 lineup and it will likely not sell very well.

It's a damn shame.

 

[Tripon]

Not for the main markets. His statement is these other markets don't want the games we play. We have to make special ones for them

Its basically the opposite strategy Nintendo has been taking with the iQue, and MS will be taking with the XB1.

 

[Wario64]

@gibbogame 7:13 PM
Iwata - the WiiU forecast of 3.6m don't think it is peak, wanted to be more conservative this year. Meeting ends.

 

[Exile20]

Not a single hardware/software sales chart.

Biggest loss of Nintendo being on the verge of bankruptcy.

Wait what?

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

The NFP accessory for the 3DS:

3DS will now be able to hypnotize and mate with urinal cakes confirmed

 

[javac]

@gibbogame

Iwata - the WiiU forecast of 3.6m don't think it is peak, wanted to be more conservative this year. Meeting ends.

 

[Maintenance]

Not for the main markets. His statement is these other markets don't want the games we play. We have to make special ones for them

More F2P Nintendo games for the emerging markets, hurray.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

wut
Lower prices incoming?

You wish. More like F2P incoming.

 

[DNAbro]

read the beginning of that sentence again...

people read what they want to see.

 

[Not]

Well, we know that the Wii U will have the best 2014 lineup and it will likely not sell very well.

It's a damn shame.

What are you comparing to

 

[DaBoss]

@gibbogame

https://twitter.com/gibbogame/status/464226589270503424

 

[vinnygambini]

So is Iwata implying that that a new device will be launching in China?

I think he is implying that the traditional Western model of game publishing will not work for emerging markets such as China; as such, maybe current hardware with an emphasis on F2P titles will be released in the future?

I'm not sure.

 

[Duxxy3]

I'm reading and reading, and to me it sounds like Nintendo is completely lost. All over the place with no real direction.

 

[HowZatOZ]

Iwata is talking about the F2P market people. It's clear that this will be a big push in the games industry alongside virtual reality so its best to keep an eye on it and how you can put that into the next hardware.

I'm reading and reading, and to me it sounds like Nintendo is completely lost. All over the place with no real direction.

It doesn't help that the only information we are getting is through cryptic tweets. I think the full briefing in English will be a lot better.

 

[Snakeyes]

Is a Skylanders portal...

This looks a lot more minimalistic.

 

[udivision]

Don't be dishonest Iwata, that is the peak if it hasn't already.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

...what does that have to do with what you quoted?

In a high intensity momement like right now if you say something, anything. People could run with it

 

[Protagonist Jake]

read the beginning of that sentence again...

Yeah, just realized what he meant, my bad.

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

@gibbogame 7:13 PM
Iwata - the WiiU forecast of 3.6m don't think it is peak, wanted to be more conservative this year. Meeting ends.

"I could not bullshit you anymore about that. GTFO"

 

[jmizzal]

"Iwata - the WiiU forecast of 3.6m don't think it is peak, wanted to be more conservative this year. Meeting ends."

Good call Iwata after last time lol

 

[Anth0ny]

No, that's not what he's talking about here. He's saying that emerging markets like China are not going to be responsive to the consoles that currently exist, because they're already in the markets there at varying prices.

They have to come in with cheaper/different hardware/software than what they currently have.

whoooooooops

that makes sense sorry neogaf

 

[Azure Dream]

"Fixing it" wouldn't fix anything, though. And that is the problem. You kill the WiiU now, you kill all future consoles.
And the Virtual Boy isn't even close to the same thing. It was not their main system. It was a quickly and incompletely done side project they toyed with.

Stealth-edited a chunk in before I quoted, I see. But the Virtual Boy was sure as hell pushed strongly, regardless of it being NOW considered a "side project". It got a lot of promotion, it was supposed to be their next big thing.

And I disagree that if you kill the Wii U now, you kill future consoles. They just have to find their hook, as the Wii had the remote. People are not going to care about "that tablet thing" flopping if they figure out something worthwhile; hell, a large chunk of the populace doesn't even know or care about the Wii U as anything beyond a Wii accessory, or a new upgrade of the original Wii, which they've lost interest in. Only a small chunk of Nintendo fans will get upset at the Wii U dying at this point (seemingly many of them swearing the current library already makes it worthwhile, so...), and they'll buy the next box anyway for Mario and Zelda.

 

[Zeyphersan]

Meeting's over, Iwata's time has run out

 

[MisterGrey3000]

...what does that have to do with what you quoted?

Gotta get those snarky one liners into the thread!!

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

Iwata is talking about the F2P market people. It's clear that this will be a big push in the games industry alongside virtual reality so its best to keep an eye on it and how you can put that into the next hardware.It doesn't help that the only information we are getting is through cryptic tweets. I think the full briefing in English will be a lot better.

I sincerely doubt that Nintendo's next home console venture will either be powerful enough for a competitive VR experience, or even want to join the journey into VR.

 

[Pociask]

In this thread, we don't understand how businesses work.

Nintendo does not have forward momentum coming out of last fiscal due to a very challanging generational transition mostly due to a failed strategy set likely five years ago, but there is a big difference between short term profits, midterm goals, and long term strategy.

...right? Have you seen anything that led you to believe Iwata has a credible mid or long term strategy?

Also, posting from phone, so typos galore.

 

[Jeels]

Cross-posting:

Release schedule is out!

Nothing new on it for Wii U. Except X and Bayonetta 2 are listed for 2014 for JP/NA/PAL. Bayonetta 2 is Summer 2014 in JP.

That's good. X this year sounds like another reason for me to own a Wii U.

 

[Starphoenix]

To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure Nintendo has the capability to become an entertainment company in the same way as Sony and Microsoft.

 

[Maintenance]

Meeting's over,Iwata's time has run out

If only.

Spoiler

Just kidding.

 

[Not]

That's all, go home

 

[Riki]

...right? Have you seen anything that led you to believe Iwata has a credible mid or long term strategy?

Also, posting from phone, so typos galore.

Yes? The fact that he is trying to branch the company out into other markets shows he has a very clear long term goal.
Short term would be to sell their IPs off and bail.

To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure Nintendo has the capability to become an entertainment company in the same way as Sony and Microsoft.

Good thing they aren't trying to be like MS and Sony then?

 

[NandN3DS]

I sincerely doubt that Nintendo's next home console venture will either be powerful enough for a competitive VR experience, or even want to join the journey into VR.

What? It will at the least be more powerful than the ps4.

 

[HowZatOZ]

I sincerely doubt that Nintendo's next home console venture will either be powerful enough for a competitive VR experience, or even want to join the journey into VR.

We will see, but those are two of the biggest changes currently going through the industry so it would make sense to keep an eye on things. Alongside China now opening up its borders, it will be a very interesting time for the industry.

 

[Somnid]

To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure Nintendo has the capability to become an entertainment company in the same way as Sony and Microsoft.

Well, no, they would have the actual entertaining part and less of the side business.

 

[Protagonist Jake]

That's all, go home

Ok this is weird.

NOTHING on what they just spent 100 million on?

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Meeting's over, Iwata's time has run out

See you next year, please understand.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

we have lost our Games Only Nintendo to save the gaming business

I feel kinda sad about this but for them to survive this had to come

thanks EA and all of you who did not buy W101

 

[Ridley327]

I think half my confusion with NFC is that I don't actually know what skylanders and disney infinity actually play like, or what the figures do.

The reductionist way of looking at them is they're essentially super-specific memory cards that also work as a physical unlock for that character in that game. You can't play as Spyro in Skylanders unless you have the Spyro figure, so you get him, place him on the portal, and you can now play as Spyro. Those figures also have some rewritable flash memory built into them, so you can save your progress without having to do anything particularly fancy, and because of the way they're designed, they're platform agnostic, so you can use the same figure in every version of the game, no matter what console.

 

[DNAbro]

Stealth-edited a chunk in before I quoted, I see. But the Virtual Boy was sure as hell pushed strongly, regardless of it being NOW considered a "side project". It got a lot of promotion, it was supposed to be their next big thing.

And I disagree that if you kill the Wii U now, you kill future consoles. They just have to find their hook, as the Wii had the remote. People are not going to care about "that tablet thing" flopping if they figure out something worthwhile; hell, a large chunk of the populace doesn't even know or care about the Wii U as anything beyond a Wii accessory, or a new upgrade of the original Wii, which they've lost interest in. Only a small chunk of Nintendo fans will get upset at the Wii U dying at this point (seemingly many of them swearing the current library already makes it worthwhile, so...), and they'll buy the next box anyway for Mario and Zelda.

If nintendo killed it when people wanted them too (last year) there would have been no good Mario(non nsmb) or a new Zelda. Why would any buyer expect Nintendo to put either of those on the next console? What happens if the next one doesn't meet expectations? Give up early again? and the next? You don't want to set the precedent.

 

[jmizzal]

To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure Nintendo has the capability to become an entertainment company in the same way as Sony and Microsoft.

I dont think they want to become an entertainment company like MS or Sony that would take 20 to 30 years, they just want to get revenue from other places and not only from video games, which is a good for them

 

[KingSnake]

Sounds like Wii U is a 'test' system.

At the meeting in January it was actually declared as a test system for the next hardware, for the common framework, unified account system, new pricing models etc

The NFC figure is a decent idea to help, but they really need to find a way to improve their margins on the Wii U box. Gotta find a way to cut the tablet controller out and hit a $200 or lower price point.

This is a contradiction.