Sony's E3 2014 - What are we all expecting?

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Yep, but still, MS is acting like a wounded animal, ready to claw its way back to the top (In the US, that is). I am confident they will have a lot to show...
Sony is tight lipped like rarely before. Do not know what to expect. I hope they come ready for the battle of the generation...

As Kagari said, every single year people make the mistake of thinking that companies who aren't leaking won't have anything new to show.
 
What's your definition of PS4-level graphical quality? I see plenty of PS4 games that vary from retro to Killzone/Infamous.

My definition of PS4-level quality for a game that isn't an indie, but a retail release developed by Studio Japan, would definitely be higher than what is shown in that teaser, that's for sure. Again, if it was developed exclusively for the PS4, the game would not look as close to the first GR as it does. There would be a marked improvement.
 
Capcom really is a shell of it's former self if they are going to continue to side with X1 for exclusivity. They don't know what the hell they are doing anymore.
It sold more than twice as much on the PS3, half of the sales coming from Japan. And no, I don't believe that MS is really going to pay enough to completely cover PS4 sales. This is really irritating if it's true. :(
 
Well I only think so because I don't think Sony would be putting much more resources into Vita development at this point. If I'm wrong and it's a Vita game, then great, I'll be playing it!

GR is two years old. Maybe SCEE and SCEA are not starting new Vita projects at this point but it's not that hard to believe that SCEJA greenlighted a Vita sequel (multiplatform or not) some time ago.

Also that video was shown inside the Vita games reel at the TGS last year iirc.
 
It sold more than twice as much on the PS3, half of the sales coming from Japan. And no, I don't believe that MS is really going to pay enough to completely cover PS4 sales. This is really irritating if it's true. :(

People keep saying this about dragons dogma and resident evil going Xbox exclusive. ... I really don't see it happening
 
Well obviously it is my personal opinion. They need to show it briefly to keep up a profile, but as much as you may love the system (and to be honest I had a vita and it really was a fantastic handheld), most people don't care and don't want it. Most people will game now on their phones or tablets if they want a mobile gaming device and the small percentage that don't will buy a DS for their Nintendo fix. Just look at the sales - that is proof that hardly anyone does care.
It's sad as I once owned a Vita and it has some decent games and backwards compatibility on it through the digital download service is awesome, but the hard truth is the time for the system to sell has passed and it is now seen as a failed product. In America it's close to non existent, in Europe it's dying a quick death and even in Japan; the land of handheld gaming, it still sells poorly.

By all means announce new things across E3 via press releases, and spend a little time on stage to keep people aware its around, but the majority of viewers and potential customers tuning in on June 9th are watching for one thing. Reasons to buy a PS4 or reasons to justify their PS4 purchase.

Again just my opinion.

Let me break down your logic for you..it's rather similar to sony's approach too ironically

Vita is not interesting without gaming reveals/news etc so the masses aren't interested

They should not waste time trying to get them interested

If you can't see why this line of logical reasoning is flawed I can't help you. Vita sales struggle, especially in the NA, because SCEA and sony has done absolutely nothing worthwhile with the system 2 years running in this market. They skipped or barely gave any consideration for the system in the last two E3s. I don't care if it's the worst piece of gaming hardware in the world but sub 5k sales for a whole month is just the result of incompetence of the company behind the product

I repeat, I expect it to be no different this year. I carry no false hope regarding it. But the current sad state of affairs is partly due to thinking like yours.

Oh and I don't know about EU hardware sales, but in JP it's doing 'ok'. That market overall is doing bad but vita does respectable numbers and the software sales are pretty good. At least good enough for third party devs to keep making games for it.

I don't care much for Nintendo first party software or Iwata's handling of that company, but as shitty as wiiu sales have been worldwide, they know how to support their own system. I don't care if it's your 'personal' opinion, press releases etc are not the way to make use of an event such as E3 and as low as it may be, but there are millions of vita owners in the world and also has a very dedicated fanbase. Spending 15 mins of what should be 1.5-2 hour conference on a console they themselves put in the market won't harm the PS4 in any way. That time could be much worse spent, for example on tv show introductions or another great piece of gaming for their home consoles like the wonderbook!

anywho again they won't give a shit lol thankfully XSeed etc are doing a great job in localizing games so as a vita owner I can handle it
 
It sold more than twice as much on the PS3, half of the sales coming from Japan. And no, I don't believe that MS is really going to pay enough to completely cover PS4 sales. This is really irritating if it's true. :(

The tweet came from Thuway right? I think he said Capcom was shopping for a publisher because the game is in development hell. I can see MS giving up some cash. You're right though. Capcom is completely alienating it's fans by doing this.
 
If Japan is lucky they might get it in December 2015.

so they did that big re-reveal with gameplay footage as well in 2013 for a game to come out in 2016? i just find that ridiculous but knowing square i guess it isn't totally unbelievable. i was thinking around march 2015 in japan and maybe summer/holiday 2015 for us/euro. i guess i will keep my expectations in check if you are so sure.
 
Yep, but still, MS is acting like a wounded animal, ready to claw its way back to the top (In the US, that is). I am confident they will have a lot to show...
Sony is tight lipped like rarely before. Do not know what to expect. I hope they come ready for the battle of the generation...
Is this your first e3?

This is literally what Sony does every single year.
 
Oooh, I just thought of something that would really slay at Sony's E3 - Ni no Kuni 2 for the PS4. Now that's an announcement that would have me all up in a lather, and it has a semi-realistic prospect of happening too!
 
It sold more than twice as much on the PS3, half of the sales coming from Japan. And no, I don't believe that MS is really going to pay enough to completely cover PS4 sales. This is really irritating if it's true. :(

I think it will just be exclusive "announced" for XB1, but will still come to PS4.

I really can't see them putting such a Japanese centric game on XB1 exclusively. Especially since the last entry sold so much better on PS3, despite PS3 having the smaller user base.
 
Is this your first e3?

This is literally what Sony does every single year.

Sony has tried to do this every single year but aside from last year I don't remember where there werent a few leaks. I guess Project Beast is huge if true and we DO have plenty of time left for more until the big show. I was actually surprised at how tight of a ship they had last year.
 
Oooh, I just thought of something that would really slay at Sony's E3 - Ni no Kuni 2 for the PS4. Now that's an announcement that would have me all up in a lather, and it has a semi-realistic prospect of happening too!

I think it will most definitely happen..but at E3? I doubt it. TGS this year for sure tho
 
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If that is the case Capcom has gone stupid , game sells almost half it's LTD in Japan makes it X1 exclusive lol .
Have Japanese devs gone crazy this gen again , with the way X1 selling they would lucky to make money cause EU not going to any help either .
 
Is this your first e3?

This is literally what Sony does every single year.

Sony usually starts announcing/giving previews of their games throughout May. For example, they just randomly announced LittleBigPlanet 2 in May. They've been criticized for it in the past because people want everything to be held until E3.
 
They already gave MS Dead Rising 3. They don't need to give them anything else.
"Capcom, you don't owe MS anything. You've already given them everything with Dead Rising 3."

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I think it will most definitely happen..but at E3? I doubt it. TGS this year for sure tho

You're probably right, but the first one did exceed sales expectations in the West and was critically acclaimed. Sony could score some serious good will by showing a quick trailer for another Studio Ghibli-affiliated JRPG at their conference.
 
I want to believe in Dragons Dogma 2, but if it turns out to be exclusive I'm probably going to meltdown
Sony usually starts announcing/giving previews of their games throughout May. For example, they just randomly announced LittleBigPlanet 2 in May. They've been criticized for it in the past because people want everything to be held until E3.
Wasn't LBP2 leaked in a silly way?
 
Let me break down your logic for you..it's rather similar to sony's approach too ironically

Vita is not interesting without gaming reveals/news etc so the masses aren't interested

They should not waste time trying to get them interested

If you can't see why this line of logical reasoning is flawed I can't help you. Vita sales struggle, especially in the NA, because SCEA and sony has done absolutely nothing worthwhile with the system 2 years running in this market. They skipped or barely gave any consideration for the system in the last two E3s. I don't care if it's the worst piece of gaming hardware in the world but sub 5k sales for a whole month is just the result of incompetence of the company behind the product.

I agree with you that Sony SHOULD have promoted it more in the past and made more of en effort to secure desirable games and show off the games they did have - in the past. It's too late for that now. That ship has sailed. It's a dead product. Sony won't keep it going for much longer because it's not a money maker. Now they need to concentrate on the system that is doing well and that they do have a chance to make a big success of - the PS4. Many others agree in this very thread that an E3 stage is not the appropriate place for the Vita now. If it was a big deal like the 3DS for Nintendo then maybe, but it isn't.

This is what Sony should do to cover the Vita on stage -

Promote it's best feature - cross play with the PS4.
Announce a new bundle / price drop.
Show a sizzle reel of upcoming games.

5-10 mins tops.

The rest they can announce via E3 updates on the PS Blog.
 
I'm very interested in seeing what Sony has in store for E3. I've been disappointed by their lack of big announcements since last E3. They have so many internal dev teams, and yet it feels like we know so little about what they're working on. If they come out and show multiple big projects I'll be thrilled. If they only show one or two new games, I'm gonna be bummed out. At this point they've been quiet for so long, big expectations are justified. They've got awesome hardware. They just need to give people some exclusives to get hyped about.
 
You're probably right, but the first one did exceed sales expectations in the West and was critically acclaimed. Sony could score some serious good will by showing a quick trailer for another Studio Ghibli-affiliated JRPG at their conference.

For sure I agree with you. I just don't think it's likely. Ideally the show should cater to fans of both western and Japanese games. Would be a nice surprise

I agree with you that Sony SHOULD have promoted it more in the past and made more of en effort to secure desirable games and show off the games they did have - in the past. It's too late for that now. That ship has sailed. It's a dead product. Sony won't keep it going for much longer because it's not a money maker. Now they need to concentrate on the system that is doing well and that they do have a chance to make a big success of - the PS4. Many others agree in this very thread that an E3 stage is not the appropriate place for the Vita now. If it was a big deal like the 3DS for Nintendo then maybe, but it isn't.

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With that line of thinking they should have ditched their biggest money sinker in history way sooner..the ps3! lol


So I say 15mins you think that's too much out of a 1.5-2 hour show and reduce 5 more minutes. Why? What makes you think sony of all people will fill that slot with anything meaningful? Did you not see their shows in the last few years? Lots of stuff that gamers were not interested about or things that were so ahead of it's release it was basically useless.

IF every company acts like sony is with vita and abandons their own product in the first few years because they wanted to prioritize another console, and then say well it's too late now, they should have not entered the market in the first place. As a gamer yourself, for you to actually think they shouldn't 'waste' time on a system and maybe possibly show some new exciting games for it just because it's not selling well or because you currently don't have the system is just ..absurd. This is basically no win situation with people like you.
And you know why many in this thread agree with your sentiment? Because they don't own it. Simple as that. And as long as sony follows the methods you described, they won't in the future either.

Again sub 5k sales is just incompetence! and a showing like you described is also incompetence. In Japan they made a great effort and actually managed to turn things around a bit..it's not an impossible task. IF they skim the vita segment as usual like you say, I hope for your sake they don't spend the time they saved on media partnerships, sport partnerships, motion control games etc too...because fucking lol if that happens.

At least I am happy for Nintendo fans because I don't see such comments from them like yours about the wiiu nor does the company act like the way you think, on which is also a huge failure of a product.
 
If that is the case Capcom has gone stupid , game sells almost half it's LTD in Japan makes it X1 exclusive lol .
Have Japanese devs gone crazy this gen again , with the way X1 selling they would lucky to make money cause EU not going to any help either .

Uhhh
If that happens doesn't MS pay enough to cover a significant part of development, at that point sales will barely matter right?
 
I would take any MS/Valve rumours with a truckload of salt but Dragons Dogma 2 makes some sense. Spencer is turning it around but I am not sure he can fix that rift that quick.

Capcom is a mess and basically needs 1th parties to come in and help produce games now (Deep Down, DR3). Its not exactly a big brand as well so it wouldnt cost as much as say... Monster Hunter but MS need something to try and sell xbox in japan.

Its why I think any 3rd party exclusives will come out of Japan. Most Japanese pubs need help from 1th parties
 
I'm really hoping for a solid look at Guerrilla's supposed rpg. They've only ever done Killzone and the idea of them doing an rpg piques my curiosity.
I want to imagine something mass effect-like but in first person.
 
Unless there were more tweets I missed I read it as he is expecting the games being at Microsoft conference, they might get exclusive dlc but not full exclusive.

The amount of money needed to secure those as exclusives would be huge. It would wipe away a huge chunk of the billion dollars in the budget. Titanfall and Gears might nearly taken half already.

Edit just saw the development hell tweet. I would not be surprised if it is exclusive. Capcom would lost money as it is as far as I am aware it sold more on PS3.
 
Lotsa games.

Project Beast was the one thing that would make me buy a console, and they got it. They already won me over.
 
Sony needs to let smaller studios work on hd remastered of older games for ps4 p s3 and vita

Just imagine

Sanzura games: jet moto remastered all 3 games redone for ps4 with online play

Or cool border remastered

Intelligent cube remastered
 
I'm really hoping for a solid look at Guerrilla's supposed rpg. They've only ever done Killzone and the idea of them doing an rpg piques my curiosity.
I want to imagine something mass effect-like but in first person.

It maybe doesn't even exist and you already killed my hype on it. I want them to work on something in third person.
 
With that line of thinking they should have ditched their biggest money sinker in history way sooner..the ps3! lol


So I say 15mins you think that's too much out of a 1.5-2 hour show and reduce 5 more minutes. Why? What makes you think sony of all people will fill that slot with anything meaningful? Did you not see their shows in the last few years? Lots of stuff that gamers were not interested about or things that were so ahead of it's release it was basically useless.

IF every company acts like sony is with vita and abandons their own product in the first few years because they wanted to prioritize another console, and then say well it's too late now, they should have not entered the market in the first place. As a gamer yourself, for you to actually think they shouldn't 'waste' time on a system and maybe possibly show some new exciting games for it just because it's not selling well or because you currently don't have the system is just ..absurd. This is basically no win situation with people like you.
And you know why many in this thread agree with your sentiment? Because they don't own it. Simple as that. And as long as sony follows the methods you described, they won't in the future either.

Again sub 5k sales is just incompetence! and a showing like you described is also incompetence. In Japan they made a great effort and actually managed to turn things around a bit..it's not an impossible task. IF they skim the vita segment as usual like you say, I hope for your sake they don't spend the time they saved on media partnerships, sport partnerships, motion control games etc too...because fucking lol if that happens.

You sound quite angry and bitter. I don't want to argue with you. My thoughts are that when a system is as far gone as the Vita selling a few thousand units in major territories each month then a company is smart to not throw good money after bad (especially a company that cannot afford to lose any more money right now) and to cut it's losses.

Oh and two things - some posters who agree with my line of thinking do own a Vita, read through the comments again to see this. I myself as I said before did own a Vita but after constant neglect and few games, that weren't back catalogue PSP/PSX titles to keep my interest I decided to part with it. It wasn't 'my line of thinking' as you keep stating over and over, in the beginning but it is now.

Can you honestly say a 2.5 yr old portable, that despite massive price drops has still failed to sell more than a few thousand units most months in major territories across the EU and US is suddenly going to become a big deal and worthy of Sony's resources, money and time at this point?
Should they have handled things better in the past - yes, should they suddenly try doing that now (when most handhelds only have a 5-6 yr lifespan max) - hell no. Bad business.
 
Has Guerrilla ever made anything that isn't a first person shooter? If they are working on a RPG I'd expect it to be first person just because everything else they have ever made (AFAIK) has been. Familiarity.

That said I'd much prefer something third person, because I generally dislike the first person perspective as a whole.
 
No way Dogma can be exclusive. Capcom cant be that stupid? They will be alienating a large portion of the games fanbase and it will sell almost nothing in Japan looool
 
Has Guerrilla ever made anything that isn't a first person shooter? If they are working on a RPG I'd expect it to be first person just because everything else they have ever made (AFAIK) has been. Familiarity.

That said I'd much prefer something third person, because I generally dislike the first person perspective as a whole.

Their first game was third person. Shellshock: Nam '67.

I don't think perspective matters much. GG's problem has been writing for the most part anyway.
 
You sound quite angry and bitter. I don't want to argue with you. My thoughts are that when a system is as far gone as the Vita selling a few thousand units in major territories each month then a company is smart to not throw good money after bad (especially a company that cannot afford to lose any more money right now) and to cut it's losses.

Oh and two things - some posters who agree with my line of thinking do own a Vita, read through the comments again to see this. I myself as I said before did own a Vita but after constant neglect and few games, that weren't back catalogue PSP/PSX titles to keep my interest I decided to part with it. It wasn't 'my line of thinking' as you keep stating over and over, in the beginning but it is now.

Can you honestly say that a 2.5 yr old portable, that despite massive price drops has still failed to sell more than a few thousand units most months in major territories across the EU and US is suddenly going to become a big deal and worthy of Sony's resources, money and time at this point?
Should they have handled things better in the past - yes, should they suddenly try doing that now (when most handhelds only have a 5-6 yr lifespan max) - hell no. Bad business.

lol now you're just being silly. Why should I get upset/angry over this with you? I just think the argument you're making is stupid so I'm trying to point out why. Hell you somehow cut down 5 minutes of my suggested 15minutes because for some reason that would help the cause of ps4! >_> I don't think you are thinking this through well enough at this point. Don't let me making argument against your comments to mean more than just that

And I'm sure a few do own the system among those people, but most of them don't. It was no different last year too really. So this isn't anything unique not seen before.

Again sales sales sales. You just said yourself you sold yours because it didn't have games you liked..and guess why that is? Because like you, sony also thinks about the vita same way. I mean again if this is your angle why they shouldn't spend a a meager amount of time like 15mins on the system, then they should have ditched the PS3 in it's first year. The financial ruin that system brought the company has not been overcome even now. but aren't we all glad they didn't? Even after some horrific first years and losing marketshare big time

IF the company was actually 'smart' as you say, no system of theirs should be selling sub 5k a month in a market as large as NA. Vita is insignificant in the long term of things when it comes to sony's troubles too fyi. If you actually check their financial statements in the past years, this is a none issue for them. Their troubles with losing money primarily lies elsewhere.

Again not saying they should go crazy with the system..that's your own imaginary take on it. I'm saying they can spare about 15mins for content/features/bundles etc for the system. It won't harm the PS4 and it certainly won't harm the ps3.

but yeah I'm happy with the systems content. Lots of localization happening and I actually have a backlog now. I'm just saying the way sony is handling the system at these big events is absolutely pathetic. I mean don't change your initial argument now, you said no one cares etc about vita at these shows, yet I recall many gamers in general being happy with reveals such as Tearaway, KZ Merc, Gravity Rush too. Because at the end of the day we play the games, not the sales. And sony can do much much worse (and have in the past) than spend a brief amount of time about a great piece of gaming hardware like the vita

Anywho I'm done with this for now. Carry on everyone
 
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