Support NeoGAF

[mreddie]

Just cancel it altogether.

Nope, we got a script, stars and a date. Can't derail those plans.

 

[J10]

The fuck? Been saying this. It's not a new opinion by any stretch.

It's also not "anti-marvel" bullshit. Unless you glossed over the part where I want the movie to be good and I hope that it's fun.

I don't give a shit which company makes my entertainment, I just care that they hire the right people to make it entertaining. Be that Marvel, or Paramount, or New Line, or any other giant multimedia conglomerate is funding these hundred-million-dollar indulgences into my adolescence.

LOL OK. My bad.

 

[Aurongel]

Its entirely possible Wright wanted another massive delay, and Marvel decided that the eight years they gave him already was enough. They bumped this movie from Phase 1 to Phase 3 for Wright, maybe they just wanted to see some actual forward momentum?

They were about to start shooting and it sounds like they had the cast assembled. Sounds like forward motion to me.

When I see the phrase "creative differences" being thrown around it makes me think that Wright wanted to style the film after his previous works or wanted to make something that jumped too far out of the Marvel script mold. This film was already an oddball considering Wright himself called it a caper/heist film.

From here, it will almost certainly be delayed and I'm unsure of where this puts his script.

 

[Scientist Supreme!]

We have no clue what happen and probably never know so casting stones at people is doing nothing but making you look dumb.

 

[SillyEskimo]

I was really looking forward to Wright's take on the MCU, but perhaps the Marvel mold was too confining for him. Marvel has my trust. Whatever happened, I believe Marvel will make it right with their replacement.

My interest in the film probably just got renewed. With Wright, I had a good idea of what to expect, but now it's up in the air again. Directors and actors come and go. It's the character they are breathing life into that I am interested in.

 

[jon bones]

i don't have enough gifs to express myself right now

this is all very upsetting

My interest in the film probably just got renewed.

absolute madness

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Cancel it for a Squirrel Girl movie to launch Phase 3 instead

 

[Messypandas]

Later in the week Wright told MTV News that there was no timetable for the film "Because that character isn't one of their biggest properties, it's not like a tentpole deadline ... It's more like me and [Marvel Studios president] Kevin Feige saying, 'Let's make a really good script.' We've always agreed on that — 'Let's make a good script that works, that's all about a great genre film, and that isn't necessarily relying on anything else'".[17] At the 2010 San Diego Comic-Con International, Wright said that Ant-Man would not fit in the chronology of The Avengers as "it didn’t work with the kind of the angle that we were going to do with the origin that I’d written"

In January 2013, Feige stated that Ant-Man would be part of Phase Three of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.[26] In May 2013, Feige indicated that the screenplay needed to be modified in order to fit into the universe because the project had been in development before the first Iron Man film.

In August 2013 after Joss Whedon, director of Avengers: Age of Ultron, announced that Henry Pym would not be Ultron's creator, Wright said Ultron was never a part of the story of Ant-Man.[31] Wright elaborated, "[Ultron] was never in my script. Because even just to sort of set up what Ant-Man does is enough for one movie",[32] and described Ant-Man as a stand-alone film. He said it will fit into to the larger continuity of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, explaining that "It is pretty standalone in the way we're linking it to the others. I like to make it standalone because I think the premise of it needs time. I want to put the crazy premise of it into a real world, which is why I think Iron Man really works because it's a relatively simple universe; it's relatable.

Some quotes on the development

 

[BLACKLAC]

Yeah people throwing anti MCU shit sound stupid right now.

They let Gunn and Russos do there thing.

They delayed Ant Man for Wright.

They let him write the script for 8 years.

Something else happened.

heh yup. Wonder what happen. Was really looking forward to seeing what he could do.

Funny to see the marvel haters desperate for a bone.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

i don't have enough gifs to express myself right now

this is all very upsetting

Try this one:

 

[PinkCrayon]

Why hire Wright in the first place if you don't want his vision, that's his entire appeal.

 

[Slayven]

Wright's entire fanbase must be located on gaf because his box office sure doesn't support a larger one.

I love the "we won't get Wright's unique vision now." Dude was making a heist movie. Jason Statham is in one of those like every other year.

My assumption based on nothing is that this is entirely based around scheduling and marvel didn't want to or couldn't justify pushing the film back anymore.

You wrong man

 

[Dabanton]

They should have had Black Panther up next instead of Antman.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Seeing some people speculating that Cornish is about to take over for Wright - which might be best case, as Cornish & Wright are friends, have collaborated before, and if anyone is going to take that vision across the finish line more or less intact, he could probably do it.

 

[Shaanyboi]

fuck
fuck fuck fuck

FUCK

 

[anaron]

No one gives a shit about Ant Man. The whole appeal of this project rested on Edgar Wright elevating the property through his own style and abilities as a writer/director.

Marvel studios letting this happen is a huge regression for them after a ton of smart decisions.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Seeing some people speculating that Cornish is about to take over for Wright - which might be best case, as Cornish & Wright are friends, have collaborated before, and if anyone is going to take that vision across the finish line more or less intact, he could probably do it.

He also worked on the script with Wright. So if they are not making any major alterations to the script (other than whatever it was that caused Wright to leave) then he's probably the #1 pick right now. Does he have anything else in the works right now that would keep him from taking over for Wright?

No one gives a shit about Ant Man.

This shit isn't true at all.

 

[lawful]

I'm going to puke if I hear the word 'vision' one more time.

 

[TimmiT]

Goddammit. Edgar Wright is one of my favorite directors ever. Him directing and Paul Rudd starring sounded so right, now I don't really know anymore. Don't think my hype has ever gone from as high as a skyscraper to as low as a molehill like this.

 

[duckroll]

Cancel it for a Squirrel Girl movie to launch Phase 3 instead

I would wholeheartedly support this.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Seeing some people speculating that Cornish is about to take over for Wright - which might be best case, as Cornish & Wright are friends, have collaborated before, and if anyone is going to take that vision across the finish line more or less intact, he could probably do it.

Thing is, would Marvel give him any thought (Most likely) and would Cornish even want to take the job when Wright has left?

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Seeing some people speculating that Cornish is about to take over for Wright - which might be best case, as Cornish & Wright are friends, have collaborated before, and if anyone is going to take that vision across the finish line more or less intact, he could probably do it.

Would Cornish do it if Wright got bumped though?

Marvel's got my goodwill off of their movies, so I'm still excited to see a superhero heist flick, but I'm disappointed Wright won't do it. He'd be fantastic to do it.

The only possible explanation for this to actually be amicable is if Wright just wasn't able to make the schedule and he decided to get off the project since it had a hard date.

 

[jon bones]

Try this one:

good, but not enough anger

Seeing some people speculating that Cornish is about to take over for Wright - which might be best case, as Cornish & Wright are friends, have collaborated before, and if anyone is going to take that vision across the finish line more or less intact, he could probably do it.

hmmm... I loved Attack the Block and I do think Cornish can make a damn good Ant-Man movie...

Don't think my hype has ever gone from as high as a skyscraper to as low as a molehill like this.

i know that feeeeeellll

waaahhh

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I'm going to puke if I hear the word 'vision' one more time.

Give me your stomach lining.

Would Cornish do it if Wright got bumped though?

Depends on how/why Wright walked. I bet there's a scenario where Wright says "Look, I can't do this... but I'll give this to Joe, Joe can do it"

And then he basically slaps his hands together like a blackjack dealer and bails to the back of the Casino

 

[Loxley]

Well, crap.

 

[Jarmel]

Seeing some people speculating that Cornish is about to take over for Wright - which might be best case, as Cornish & Wright are friends, have collaborated before, and if anyone is going to take that vision across the finish line more or less intact, he could probably do it.

Cornish would probably the best but he better get on it quick.

 

[Aurongel]

Some quotes on the development

Yep, sounds like a simple case of creative differences on where the film should fit into the Marvel mold. The same thing happened two years ago at Pixar and it forced a bunch of leading talent there to bail.

You wrong man

I love his films like most people here but his last comic book film was a pretty massive bomb in theaters. With the stakes being considerably higher now it's not hard to see where some people's fears were coming from

 

[Father_Brain]

Yeah I bet Marvel is shaking in their boots at the idea of the blow to their geek cred losing some niche British director will cause

Oh, it'll probably blow over by SDCC and certainly doesn't portend doom for their future films. But it's the first thing they've done in a while that's guaranteed to get such a negative reaction from certain quarters.

This would have been sorted out long long ago. It's not like the script was just written the other day. The execs at Marvel would have also been familiar with his style when he started the project, and it's probably why he was recruited.

Should have, not would have. Variety reports that the new director has already been chosen, which suggests that this had been brewing for a while.

I suspect that Feige et al knew going in that they didn't see eye-to-eye with Wright, but cynically guessed that the ticking clock of the production start date would make him more amenable to compromise. They guessed wrong, but it appears they had a back-up plan.

On the other hand, it's also possible that their Phase 3 plans changed recently in a way that made it much harder to integrate Wright's original vision. Wonder if we'll ever know.

 

[RedShift]

This sucks. That seems pretty weird when it was finally getting going after years and years.

So who do we think will take over?
Cornish?

This would be cool though.

 

[Affeinvasion]

You wrong man

Find me a movie of his that's grossed over 100 million.

 

[Kinyou]

Cancel it for a Squirrel Girl movie to launch Phase 3 instead

Only with Aronofsky directing

good, but not enough anger

 

[lawful]

Give me your stomach lining.

Why do I always feel like your avatar is The Winter Soldier?

 

[Rastafarian42]

Welp

Guess I can stop pretending to give a damn about Ant-Man

This to the max make a BP movie DAMMIT !

 

[Anth1888]

Surely Cornish and Wright share the same 'vision' as they've worked so closely together.

 

[Gorillaz]

They should have had Black Panther up next instead of Antman.

Black Panther is never going to happen

You have a better chance at TLG and Agent coming out in a year then that happening

 

[Scientist Supreme!]

This Ant-Man hating is pissing me off more this news.

 

[Slayven]

Find me a movie of his that's grossed over 100 million.

I meant you are right, but wrong for saying the truth out loud. lol

 

[lawful]

Black Panther is never going to happen

Maybe a Netflix series if The Defenders do well.

 

[StoopKid]

Wright's entire fanbase must be located on gaf because his box office sure doesn't support a larger one.

I love the "we won't get Wright's unique vision now." Dude was making a heist movie. Jason Statham is in one of those like every other year.

My assumption based on nothing is that this is entirely based around scheduling and marvel didn't want to or couldn't justify pushing the film back anymore.

.

 

[Jarmel]

Should have, not would have. Variety reports that the new director has already been chosen, which suggests that this had been brewing for a while.

I suspect that Feige et al knew going in that they didn't see eye-to-eye with Wright, but cynically guessed that the ticking clock of the production start date would make him more amenable to compromise. They guessed wrong, but it appears they had a back-up plan.

If they have a replacement director locked in, why haven't they announced him? That's worrisome in of itself too. We'll see if Disney comes out with a formal announcement in the next few days but I worry that it'll be a rent-a-director coming on.

 

[crimsonspider89]

Man I want to take an avatar bet with people saying no BP movie.

Especially with one of the details heavily hinted at for AoU.

 

[Hagi]

No one gives a shit about Ant Man. The whole appeal of this project rested on Edgar Wright elevating the property through his own style and abilities as a writer/director.

Marvel studios letting this happen is a huge regression for them after a ton of smart decisions.

I think the amount of people who give a shit about Ant-Man and the amount of people who give a shit about Edgar Wright directing a movie about him is about tied.

 

[KalBalboa]

When the story DOES come out, it's sure as hell going to be interesting. EVEN IF it's amicable. These sorts of skid-outs aren't all THAT normal. I mean, they happen, but damn.

Yeah, people need to be less defensive here of the giant movie studio. It's an interesting story to say the least and it's hard to imagine Wright just gave up after seven years, especially when the movie is due next summer.

 

[mreddie]

If they have a replacement director locked in, why haven't they announced him? That's worrisome in of itself too. We'll see if Disney comes out with a formal announcement in the next few days but I worry that it'll be a rent-a-director coming on.

Comic con announcement?

 

[Aurongel]

This Ant-Man hating is pissing me off more this news.

It's misguided hate is what it is. His debut film isn't even in filming yet and people are dismissive of it because "who the fuck cares".

Does anyone honestly think the same number of people cared about Captain America, Thor or even Iron Man before their films' release?

Also, Joe Cornish picking this up would be a pretty good outcome.

 

[Parallax]

No one gives a shit about Ant Man. The whole appeal of this project rested on Edgar Wright elevating the property through his own style and abilities as a writer/director.

Marvel studios letting this happen is a huge regression for them after a ton of smart decisions.

like all those people that gave a shit about iron man and thor? this thread is a trip

 

[Citizen_Insane]

Guess I'm not watching Ant-Man

 

[Gentleman Jack]

Reminds me of every time a comic book writer would leave a series after years on the project because upper management wanted to scrap their long-term plans of the writer for a multi-title crossover. This happened to a lot of people who worked for Marvel in the late 80s to the 90s, coincidentally.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Is there a link to this announcement? All I see is The Hollywood Reporter talking about it.

 

[Khezu]

Delay the shit out of it, redo the entire script.

Give me Pym.

Fuck Lang.

Spoiler

This still sucks though.