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[Berordn]

Same gameplay though.

Same mechanics, maybe. Jury's still out on game speed between both versions since they've looked a tad inconsistent in videos.

Gameplay will vary between the two just because of all the different elements going into each one that will ultimately result in a different experience. Unique stages are almost half the identity of the games even if they fall into the back of our minds after characters.

 

[EulaCapra]

I think there will still be a few newcomers left even after the Gematsu leak. Brawl did add in 15 new Nintendo character playstyles plus 2 third-parties. I don't think SSB4 will settle on 10 new NIntendo character playstyles plus 2 new third-parties.

Not counting Pokemon, Brawl added Meta Knight, King Dedede, Diddy Kong, Ike, Wario, Lucas, and Wolf as more established franchise reps. I don't think SSB4 will simply settle on just adding Chrom, Palutena, and Rosalina to that list. Especially since all 3 came [back] into relevancy only recently.

Goddamn Dixie Kong has been around since 1995 and been playable in countless number of Donkey Kong and Mario spin-off games and comes from a franchise that has hit a resurgence recently. Not to mention that like Wolf, she was planned for an earlier Smash game too. She'd also represent the "Old Guard" of Nintendo reps, a character that has been around for almost 20 years now.

 

[georly]

Same gameplay though.

We don't know that for sure.

I mean sure, it's a Smash game. But the physics could be different along with any number of things.

I really doubt the physics will change between the two. I think the point was to have gameplay and character parity, with stages, features, and modes being distinct enough to warrant people buying both.

At this point, we know stages are 95% different (outside of battlefield and final destination - and those are still visually different) and 3DS has smash run. We can make the assumption that the Wii U version has at least one mode the 3DS does not, as well.

 

[Moondrop]

Shulk is the worst character to pick from Xenoblade! I will keep pointing this out until he is deconfirmed.

 

[DaBoss]

The only thing he has said is the same between both versions are the characters. Nothing else has been mentioned.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

Ridley for E3

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I dunno if "same gameplay" really applies. There are definitely fewer control options on the 3DS. If you find it uncomfortable to play, then nothing will ever fix it outside of a revision or emulation years later. The screen will definitely be more cramped, too. We also have no idea if the assist trophy framerate is going to have different/better/worse timing differences between the two versions.

There are things that will affect the gameplay of the 3DS version but won't affect the gameplay of the Wii U version as a trade-off for portability. But that's handhelds in general, I just don't think you can pretend those differences don't exist.

 

[SmithnCo]

I'd be happy with the Gematsu leak being the only newcomers, looks like a varied selection with some surprises thrown in. Rhythm Heaven rep would be amazing.

 

[georly]

Shulk is the worst character to pick from Xenoblade! I will keep pointing this out until he is deconfirmed.

Still the protagonist and face of the game. Like many good RPGS, the supporting cast is often better than the protagonist. I'd argue that Ness is a pretty boring character, and many of the supporting characters in his game are way better, but he's still the face of earthbound, and I wouldn't want anyone else.

 

[DecoReturns]

Shulk is the worst character to pick from Xenoblade! I will keep pointing this out until he is deconfirmed.

Why? He's the main character.

 

[Riki]

Shulk is the worst character to pick from Xenoblade! I will keep pointing this out until he is deconfirmed.

Heropon Riki is best choice!

 

[theprodigy]

Shulk is the worst character to pick from Xenoblade! I will keep pointing this out until he is deconfirmed.

yeah, they should pick Melia instead

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

Shulk is the worst character to pick from Xenoblade! I will keep pointing this out until he is deconfirmed.

Yeah! It should be the Immovable Gonzalez

 

[Xeroblade]

Shulk is the worst character to pick from Xenoblade! I will keep pointing this out until he is deconfirmed.

every time i see that name I think She Hulk.

 

[IntelliHeath]

every time i see that name I think She Hulk.

Ironic enough, your name is close to Xenoblade.

 

[Beelzebufo]

every time i see that name I think She Hulk.

He better get a green-skinned alt color!

 

[SenorArdilla]

Yeah! It should be the Immovable Gonzalez

Immovable Gonzalez is too big. Despotic Arsene for rabbit representation.

 

[Troubled Bat]

Ridley for E3

Ridley, with a pink alt. color!

every time i see that name I think She Hulk.

So do I. Lol.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I am trying to think of franchises with playable characters in Smash where they don't have the protagonist.

I guess Pokemon kind of counts, even though they did have Red in Brawl. Pikachu's definitely the series mascot, though.

Pikmin switched protagonists with 3 but they're still using Olimar from 1 and 2.

 

[theprodigy]

every time i see that name I think She Hulk.

*looks at username*
well isn't that ironic

 

[Kor of Memory]

I feel like almost none of those could show up as playable. They'd all make solid ATs though.

Exactly the point. They'd surprise you (and most people) because we naturally expect them to be relegated to a less important role.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

Immovable Gonzalez is too big. Despotic Arsene for rabbit representation.

But is Ridley bigger?

 

[Moondrop]

Why? He's the main character.

He's literally the worst choice of all playable characters. Each of them has either a better personality, design, potential moveset, or all three. Shulk's problems go way beyond "boring."

Once I realized that you didn't have to have in your party, much less the leader, I never saw him again.

Please note: Xenoblade is one of my top 3 games of the previous generation.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Exactly the point. They'd surprise you (and most people) because we naturally expect them to be relegated to a less important role.

I mean if you're gonna make a list like that, you might as well add characters like the Eggplant Wizard and Ludicolo.

 

[Xeroblade]

Ironic enough, your name is close to Xenoblade.

haha so true. When I go to search for my youtube channel (yes i like to see what comes up) it tells me didnt you mean Xenoblade? I chose this username long before xenoblade existed. Now I'll never be searched for lol.

 

[MagiusNecros]

yeah, they should pick Melia instead

No. Dunban. He Dunbanned Melia as a rep honestly.

*gets Mindblasted*

 

[Ryce]

I am trying to think of franchises with playable characters in Smash where they don't have the protagonist.

I guess Pokemon kind of counts, even though they did have Red in Brawl. Pikachu's definitely the series mascot, though.

Pikmin switched protagonists with 3 but they're still using Olimar from 1 and 2.

Individual games or the series as a whole?

Donkey Kong Country 3 - Dixie Kong
Mother 1 - Ninten
Most Fire Emblem games
Wii Fit - Miis are technically the "protagonist" (though they'll likely be revealed soon)

 

[Blues1990]

If Ridley does become a playable character in a future installment of the series, it seems likely he will have his Meta Ridley or Omega Ridley forms as possible alternative costumes.

 

[Troubled Bat]

Give me Sukapon.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Individual games or the series as a whole?

Donkey Kong Country 3 - Dixie Kong
Mother 1 - Ninten
Most Fire Emblem games
Wii Fit - Miis are technically the "protagonist" (though they'll likely be revealed soon)

I meant series as a whole, though Pikmin is definitely a weird case in general.

 

[PK Gaming]

He's literally the worst choice of all playable characters. Each of them has either a better personality, design, potential moveset, or all three. Shulk's problems go way beyond "boring."

Once I realized that you didn't have to have in your party, much less the leader, I never saw him again.

Please note: Xenoblade is one of my top 3 games of the previous generation.

But he has the Monado (and by extension, the most varied and unique moveset) and he is the main character.

Your argument is weak and illogical.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

If Ridley does become a playable character in a future installment of the series, it seems likely he will have his Meta Ridley or Omega Ridley forms as possible alternative costumes.

You mean in this game right (;

 

[BassForever]

Shulk would look and play nothing like any FE character, plus its pretty clear that X is a sequel/spinoff and the end of the first teaser showed what looked like an older Shulk. He'll probably be in Smash Bros to help push X

 

[theprodigy]

Heropon Riki is best choice!

yeah, they should pick Melia instead

No. Dunban. He Dunbanned Melia as a rep honestly.

*gets Mindblasted*

first 3 characters suggested are the best 3*

*not necessarily in order though

 

[Blues1990]

You mean in this game right (;

After what's been going on since the vague teaser in the last Smash-y Bash-y Direct, it's becoming impossible to tell if he's even included in the roster or not.

 

[munchie64]

In my experience, the best time to play is right after release, because all the bad players are playing then. After a while, they get frustrated and quit, so you're stuck against good players who still play the mode. At least that's how every fighting game i've played is. If anything trophy/sticker/unlock related is tied to for glory, playing at launch is the best time to rack up a decent amount of wins with average skill.

I'll probably stick with 'for fun' or strictly play with friends in the future. Unless I find the time to learn and get good at the game (I say I will every new fighting game, and I never do).

That makes sense. I don't have much online fighting game experience haha. I might try it that way, especially if unlockables are tied to it.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

After what's been going on since the vague teaser in the last Smash-y Bash-y Direct, it's becoming impossible to tell if he's even included in the roster or not.

Just believe.

Spoiler

cause I've given up hope.

 

[MagiusNecros]

first 3 characters suggested are the best 3*

*not necessarily in order though

Melia has the best utility as a mage, Dunban is a dodgetank with adversity and Riki is just Riki.

 

[Moondrop]

This was sarcasm right? If not...

But he has the Monado (and by extension, the most varied and unique moveset)

Technically Dunban had the Monado as well, so you're inaccurately suggesting exclusivity to Shulk. None of the Monado arts represent any type of gameplay that couldn't be grafted onto a sword or magic user; they're not unique to Shulk.
http://xenoblade.wikia.com/wiki/Monado
So your statement that he would have the "most varied and unique moveset" is laughable.

and he is the main character.

So what? That has nothing to do with whether or not he would or should be Xenoblade's Smash representative.

Your argument is weak and illogical.

That's rich.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Alvis is pretty much the main character in the grand scheme of things honestly.

 

[Beelzebufo]

It's ridiculous to say that a secondary character from Xenoblade should be a playable character before Shulk. That's pretty much all there is to it.

 

[MagiusNecros]

It's ridiculous to say that a secondary character from Xenoblade should be a playable character before Shulk. That's pretty much all there is to it.

We played as Dunban first though.

 

[BassForever]

This was sarcasm right? If not...


Technically Dunban had the Monado as well, so you're inaccurately suggesting exclusivity to Shulk. None of the Monado arts represent any type of gameplay that couldn't be grafted onto a sword or magic user; they're not unique to Shulk.
http://xenoblade.wikia.com/wiki/Monado
So your statement that he would have the "most varied and unique moveset" is laughable.


So what? That has nothing to do with whether or not he shold be Xenoblade's Smash representative.


That's rich.

Shulk is iconic with the Monado, Dunban is not, heck Dunban couldn't even pull out half the powers from it that Shulk could. Shulk is the main character who wields the main story weapon for the majority of the game.

It's be like arguing Terra isn't the best rep for Final Fantasy 6 (for ff:dissidia) or Pikachu isn't the best rep for Pokemon. Yeah you don't technically have to use them, but they are the best representative of their game/series.

 

[Ryce]

So what? That has nothing to do with whether or not he would or should be Xenoblade's Smash representative.

It has everything to do with who would or should be Xenoblade's Smash representative. It's an extremely minor IP -- if it gets a character, it's going to be the character who matters the most and is the closest thing to an "all-star." Who's our EarthBound rep? The main character. Mother 3? Main character. Fire Emblem? Main character. And so on.

 

[georly]

So what? That has nothing to do with whether or not he would or should be Xenoblade's Smash representative.

That actually has a LOT to do with who is chosen as the smash representative. What other franchise represented in smash DOESN'T use the main character as a playable? He'd have to be in before anyone else got in.

 

[Moondrop]

It's be like arguing Terra isn't the best rep for Final Fantasy 6

She isn't; it would be Celes.

Y'all are so funny with your self-imposed rules on what makes a deserving representative. You realize they're all in your head, right?

 

[Regulus Tera]

Shulk's outfit is ugly as fuck.

 

[munchie64]

So what? That has nothing to do with whether or not he would or should be Xenoblade's Smash representative.

There is absolutely no precedent for anything other than this happening in the series though.

 

[solomon]

I was gunna double dip but I have a feeling the 3ds version is coming out in September and the wii u one a couple months later, I might as well wait. Now from a competitive stand point I also don't think the couple months head start everyone else will have is gunna be that bad, its not like anybody's gunna play olimar.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

She isn't; it would be Celes.

*looks at Dissidia*