Jeff Albertson
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Well I'm guessing most are by definition more successful than you
A Tale of 'Merica and Milk - I just walked out and abandoned a job interview. FML.
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Well I'm guessing most are by definition more successful than you
Tallshortman
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Damn the level of self-righteousness turned from "probably shouldn't have done that" to "holy shit OP is either trolling or completely delusional"
The "I'm more successful than you" thing was the cherry on top. I hear about people on GAF sending out dozens to well over 100 resumes and you get mad over having to walk out without even asking why there was a delay. You know why the secretary looked confused? Because normal people don't walk out before an interview even happens without asking why it's being delayed.
Actually, why did you even ask for advice/input if you apparently already made up your mind you did the right thing? Were you just seeking self satisfaction?
The "I'm more successful than you" thing was the cherry on top. I hear about people on GAF sending out dozens to well over 100 resumes and you get mad over having to walk out without even asking why there was a delay. You know why the secretary looked confused? Because normal people don't walk out before an interview even happens without asking why it's being delayed.
Actually, why did you even ask for advice/input if you apparently already made up your mind you did the right thing? Were you just seeking self satisfaction?
DoktorEvil
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This is a bannable post, ya know?
The whole issue stems from the fact that you made assumptions. Why didn't you just ASK the receptionist what was going on, if this was normal, or whatever? Instead, you formed some misguided assumption that they were "walking" all over you and willfully ignoring you.
Do you think that attitude stems from your own posts here regarding your struggle to find work with your background? You already know you aren't entitled to anything(or at least you NEED to figure that out), so why the attitude? Yes, it can be a struggle to find work, but that's the very REASON you should put effort into it: the pay off. And what the fuck man: you KNOW they were shorted by the two previous guys...that puts you in a good position.
Frankly, I think you need to take stock of things and recognize that your struggles as of late have been self imposed(both from your past and from your current attitude).
Don't forget that GETTING a job can help you further down the road. Why burn a bridge when you can use it to reach the other side? So what if the job sucked or your boss wasn't professional. At least then you've got something to put down as a recent job and potentially some work contacts to use as references etc. Don't be a smug fuck now: be a smug fuck once you get things sorted out.
I once had to wait over an hour for an interview at a well known tech company because shit hit the fan. Guess what? I sat there and waited. Not only did it show that I was flexible(it's one thing if you had prior obligations, they would have understood, but it sure doesn't sound like you had any), but it showed that I actually gave a shit, which frankly I can't say it sounds like you do.
Next time...think of the interview AS the job, and not as some pissing contest.
edit: as someone else pointed out above...have you considered doing things on your own? If finding a job is so difficult due to your past history, then why not look into consulting/starting your own IT business?
Do you think that attitude stems from your own posts here regarding your struggle to find work with your background? You already know you aren't entitled to anything(or at least you NEED to figure that out), so why the attitude? Yes, it can be a struggle to find work, but that's the very REASON you should put effort into it: the pay off. And what the fuck man: you KNOW they were shorted by the two previous guys...that puts you in a good position.
Frankly, I think you need to take stock of things and recognize that your struggles as of late have been self imposed(both from your past and from your current attitude).
Don't forget that GETTING a job can help you further down the road. Why burn a bridge when you can use it to reach the other side? So what if the job sucked or your boss wasn't professional. At least then you've got something to put down as a recent job and potentially some work contacts to use as references etc. Don't be a smug fuck now: be a smug fuck once you get things sorted out.
I once had to wait over an hour for an interview at a well known tech company because shit hit the fan. Guess what? I sat there and waited. Not only did it show that I was flexible(it's one thing if you had prior obligations, they would have understood, but it sure doesn't sound like you had any), but it showed that I actually gave a shit, which frankly I can't say it sounds like you do.
Next time...think of the interview AS the job, and not as some pissing contest.
edit: as someone else pointed out above...have you considered doing things on your own? If finding a job is so difficult due to your past history, then why not look into consulting/starting your own IT business?
Could have talked to the receptionist about what was taking so long....
kitchenmotors
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clockworkinyou
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Serious?
Didn't say in your rundown that the receptionist alerted him that you were there.
Why didn't you politely ask the receptionist if he was aware that you were there?
I wouldn't hire anyone that pulled this kind of stunt.
Nealand Liquor
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I conduct interviews all the time and leaving you waiting for 45 minutes withou a word is a huge red flag. I had to leave someone waiting for ten minutes two days ago, so I had coworker let them know and gave that coworker $2 from my pocket to get them a drink or snack while they waited. Shit happens, but that's no excuse for being disrespectful.
B
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Yes. Should have asked politely if coming back later in the day would be more convenient.
I agree with everything you've said... but this pretty much sums it up. What's the saying?
Fatal Futanari
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You are in IT and complaining about wait times...LOL
Are you going to leave GAF too?
Thacker, even in the (really) off chance you get a job you want, you're still a part of the social matrix/the system. You can't escape it. You will always have people above you. You'll always have to pay taxes, you'll always have a mortgage to pay, etc. What're you gonna do, tell the government to fuck off because they're above you and telling you to do stuff? You really need to shape up and re-evaluate things. Your POV is so fucking skewed I went from being angered when I read your posts to just flat out laughing.
Telephoto999
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Gully State
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Except that's not the case. He was given 45 min to fill out paperwork/take a test.
Honestly, I think the OP is exactly the type of person that would do well running his own business. Get the skillset (unless you already have it) and go for it. Some people in this thread mentioned you have to eat shit in this economy, because that's the way it is. That's not the way it is. You either become valuable with an important skillset which ensures you're not fishfood for employers, or you become valuable for customers.
I would consider starting a business, OP. You don't have to compromise the way you feel about yourself. You don't necessarily have a bad attitude. You're probably just meant to run your own thing.
David Incorporated Esq.
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You're putting his post in a different context than it is and getting it all wrong. People were saying he was acting "entitled" for expecting professional courtesy when showing up at an interview. If things played out like he says they did then this much is true (that he was not shown courtesy). The coffee and water thing, eh that's little but it still plays a part.
People calling him entitled for expecting courtesy is crazy, and symptomatic of a society that seems hell bent on fucking itself over just for the chance to suckle at the corporate teet.
Yow, 10 pages. I need to go home, I'll read through this later. I'll address the OP directly instead:
Sure, it's fine to feel slighted, but you also have to have a different outlook when you're looking for a job. Everything is an opportunity. You're trying to convince them you're not just capable of doing a good job, but that you're a good fit with their current workforce/culture. Doing the latter is often more important, and yet more difficult than the former.
This was definitely an opportunity to put a good foot forward. Being patient would have been the easy way to do so, and being gracious when he finally had the time to get to you would have been good. Even better would have been to be proactive and talk to the receptionist and say something like "hey, I completely understand that he's obviously incredibly busy. Could you ask him if it'd be best if we reschedule?"
Maybe he is a douchebag, maybe it is a terrible place to work, maybe those two techs left for a reason. Or maybe it was just a bad week, and those two techs had to leave for personal reasons? Considering how small that company is, that's a fifth of the workforce, so him being swamped seems understandable.
It could have been a great job, it could have been a terrible job. The problem is you don't, and you never will know because you were unable to handle things to your greatest benefit instead of making assumptions with limited information.
Take this as a personal learning opportunity, and do better next time. It's all part of the process.
Sure, it's fine to feel slighted, but you also have to have a different outlook when you're looking for a job. Everything is an opportunity. You're trying to convince them you're not just capable of doing a good job, but that you're a good fit with their current workforce/culture. Doing the latter is often more important, and yet more difficult than the former.
This was definitely an opportunity to put a good foot forward. Being patient would have been the easy way to do so, and being gracious when he finally had the time to get to you would have been good. Even better would have been to be proactive and talk to the receptionist and say something like "hey, I completely understand that he's obviously incredibly busy. Could you ask him if it'd be best if we reschedule?"
Maybe he is a douchebag, maybe it is a terrible place to work, maybe those two techs left for a reason. Or maybe it was just a bad week, and those two techs had to leave for personal reasons? Considering how small that company is, that's a fifth of the workforce, so him being swamped seems understandable.
It could have been a great job, it could have been a terrible job. The problem is you don't, and you never will know because you were unable to handle things to your greatest benefit instead of making assumptions with limited information.
Take this as a personal learning opportunity, and do better next time. It's all part of the process.
QuicheFontaine
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Yeah, but he said he was expecting you at 3pm. You showed up early and completed the forms early.
He's not going to reschedule around that, even when the receptionist comes in with the completed forms at 3pm. Maybe some of those phonecalls he was making were scheduled with clients? You know, in the time he had allocated for you to fill those forms in?
cheststrongwell
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lordfroakie
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Customer walks in an hour late, "Sorry, we got held up."
Thacker walks out and goes on GAF to post a thread titled 'GAF... I just walked out and abandoned a customer. FML."
With logic like that I can guess that you are an unemployed bum...like someone else in this thread.
I didn't know if the reference would be obvious enough.
Seriously though, Thacker needs to stop acting so outraged over other's "ignorance" regarding his decision, and realize he made a mistake.
David Incorporated Esq.
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He could have taken 5 seconds to say something, they were within earshot of each other. That's literally all it would have taken to ameliorate the situation but the guy just let him sit. That's rude, and I don't know about you but if someone interviewing me is rude to me during the process I won't be inclined to stick around.
You can drop bad customers if you're good enough.
Sho_Nuff82
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This will be the last bit of advice I offer, since I'm flabbergasted at your comment on the previous page about no one on GAF being successful.
Do not, in your life, ever send a piece of communication like that to a potential employer. I don't care if he insults your favorite baseball team, don't do it. You will find that in the era of linkedin that it's a very small world when you're applying in one field in one city. Have you considered what would happen if someone were to google the first paragraph of your reply? It would lead them here.
Again, if you value gainful employment in the state of Georgia, do not repeat what you did today under any circumstances.
And if you're unemployed/underemployed and consider a 60k offer insulting, you don't have any perspective on true poverty, despite your financial hardships. You're not desperate, not yet. You can't possibly care more about your perceived worth more than keeping a roof over your parents' heads. Can you?
DoktorEvil
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That's the feeling I get retreading his posts the last few pages.
Hell, it'll knock him down a few pegs at the very least.
Hey now, I'm replying while being at my job, gosh GAF.
Da Fuck?
deejay8595
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Great post!
Nealand Liquor
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I didn't read that.
I read he arrived at 2:45, finished the test in fifteen minutes and then waited 45 minutes without a word. Did I read wrong?
I'd say he warrants an update at some point within that 45 minutes. It is completely unprofessional otherwise.
He left the door wide open enough for Thacker and his ego. Now that's professional courtesy.
I really don't follow, so it'd be nice to have an explanation rather than a drive-by snark post. Unless that was sarcasm?
To be clear, I am fortunate enough to be (pretty happily) employed.
Dude Abides
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Or they're trying to figure out if it's even worth interviewing you. I had a place tell me they could only offer 60 percent of what I made at my last job at the outset of the interview and ask if I was still interested.
SteveWinwood
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My last job told me my last place burned me hard and gave me way more than I expected.
Not everyone in the world is trying to lowball, cut corners, or screw you at every opportunity.
It was a sarcastic response. It sounded like from your response that you would know how to conduct yourself at an interview and hence be employed.
TheSpoiler
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Why didn't you ask?
It's as if this man should have been absolutely perfect. Shit happens, grow up and deal with it.
My current boss was 20 minutes late because shit came up. I stuck it out because I asked what was going on but in a kind manner, and told them I'd wait.
Guess what? I'm making money doing what I love with minimal stress. And you are still unemployed, having internet mental gymnastics to justify the fact that you fucked up.
David Incorporated Esq.
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Strange approach but possible. I'd imagine if you were applying to the job you would have an expectation of what the salary would be. For them to come in at 60% of what you were making before is odd to say the least.
But it's a fair point, I still wouldn't give a number if asked, rather a broad range.
terrisus
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I know I said I was out of this thread, but one more comment:
As a Red Sox fan working in the Yankee part of Connecticut, this is a good piece of advice.
As a Red Sox fan working in the Yankee part of Connecticut, this is a good piece of advice.
Chuck Norris
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You're so edgy. A man clearly a step ahead of the rest of us, a dissident living on the boundaries, rebelling against the rules because he doesn't care. A man who says what he thinks. You don't play by the rules, you make your own rules. No sugarcoating for you, just the hard facts.
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