A Tale of 'Merica and Milk - I just walked out and abandoned a job interview. FML.
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I will also mention that I would do something- and I'm not even sure what- to try and separate your professional and personal identities. It is way too easy to find this thread, given your name, (or vice versa) and if any future employer does their due diligence, they will see all of this. Regardless of how you may feel about the advice given and its value, I think you will agree that any potential employer who read through this would pretty much kill your app regardless of quality.
I really am sorry for the stalker level post, but I just wanted to check in case you were incriminating yourself here and I think you might be given that I can find the real you in under a minute.
I think it's good for everyone to feel comfortable laying out their feelings and honestly seeking advice, but you really need to make sure that, in doing so, you don't jeopardize yourself. (Unless you're perfectly comfortable with pretty much everything you've written being fair game.)
I really am sorry for the stalker level post, but I just wanted to check in case you were incriminating yourself here and I think you might be given that I can find the real you in under a minute.
I think it's good for everyone to feel comfortable laying out their feelings and honestly seeking advice, but you really need to make sure that, in doing so, you don't jeopardize yourself. (Unless you're perfectly comfortable with pretty much everything you've written being fair game.)
From the title, FML, it implies that you have or at least had regrets about leaving the interview.
So yeah, we assumed you wanted the job. Is that illogical?
Bad move walking out, perhaps he was busy doing his job. If it's a small company, there was probably no one else to deal with you / do his duties.
Sure, they could have been more vocal but there's no reason you couldn't have piped up and said something, instead driving back and then saying something on an internet forum.
Not to be rude, but this could have been easily averted by simple communication.
Sure, they could have been more vocal but there's no reason you couldn't have piped up and said something, instead driving back and then saying something on an internet forum.
Not to be rude, but this could have been easily averted by simple communication.
Gully State
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Not really...but he could've asked..I mean he was already making small talk with the secretary.
QuicheFontaine
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That's your choice, obviously. What most people are trying to demonstrate to the OP is that OP the slightest bit of patience (like, maybe waiting just 5 minutes more in this case), or initiative (ask what's going on ffs) might have landed him the job here. And he's apparently 'kill-for' desperate for job opportunities.
I can't see how you can come to the conclusion that the OP did the right thing here. And doing the same thing in any future interviews certainly won't help his chances!
PeakPointMatrix
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Well,
Hmm, with this kind of attitude, you'll continue being unemployed and in debt without healthcare for a long, long time, I assure you.
Lock this thread, it's done. Thacker thinks he did nothing wrong, everyone's at fault but him. People in wiser, more successful positions than he'll ever know have given him sagely advice, only to throw it back in their face because they are ignorant and he knows better.
Clearly,
these were hollow words and he never really intended to take anyone's advice or even reflect on his actions in the slightest. It's sad, but it's done. Anyone responding to him any longer is wasting their time, honestly. With all of this anger toward other people undervaluing his time, he is doing just that with every piece of advice here he chooses to ignore, sans the ones validating his original opinion. Pretty hypocritical.
DoktorEvil
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Can we get a Mandrake recap before the thread closes?
TheSpoiler
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And he'll continue to blame and laugh at others, right before reality crashes down and the debts become too high.
It's as if OP is pushing away the problem in hopes that the world might somehow admit to being wrong and give him loads of money for being so prideful.
David Incorporated Esq.
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I've come to the conclusion (repeatedly stated as well!) that he didn't do the right thing but had every right to be offended by the interviewer's behavior. At a certain point he had to take action and unfortunately he overreacted and left without asking first.
evil solrac v3.0
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you understand this is standard operating procedure right? RIGHT?? RIGHT????? my issue with you is that this would have been your foot in teh door to the IT world and because you had to wait a little longer you walked out? why?
Randomizer
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No dude you should have patiently waited for the guy. Then upon entering his office, got on your knee's and fellated him to guarantee the Job!! A job is everything it's more important than your petty self respect and dignity.
Telephoto999
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Cradle the balls too?
When I was job hunting for a developer role fresh out of University no one was interested. I finally got an interview with a company for an IT phone support role which I'd done previously and hated. THIS ROLE WAS 2 HOURS AWAY AND I STILL WENT BECAUSE I NEEDED A FUCKING JOB. Even if I didn't want the job I could still turn it down. Turns out it was for a developer role after all and the information they gave me was incorrect. I didn't think they were unprofessional, I simply thought shit happens and how glad I was that I went to the interview anyway. I got the job that day too.
How in the hell can you be SO stuck up while claiming its hard to find a job? Insanity.
How in the hell can you be SO stuck up while claiming its hard to find a job? Insanity.
David Incorporated Esq.
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Always cradle the balls.
TheSpoiler
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It was an interview process.
OJdaKiller
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OP isn't mature enough to run a business. Very simply this attitude, and resulting action, are symptoms of immaturity. The good news about this is he can outgrow this if he chooses.
Unfortunately this whole story plays into my experience with a great deal of IT workers...Super bright...Guy finishes an application and the test in mere minutes when it's designed to take probably a half hour....BUT...totally lacking in social skills/grace...Can't see that whether or not he's hired, he'll continue to be the small fish compared to the boss...You aren't his equal, you aren't a customer...Thus you won't be treated as such...It's a job, not a date..
But if you can OP, I'd check in w/a counselor/therapist somewhere..If not now, some time soon...This whole story if just a self-fulling prophecy...Believe people have it out for you, assume the worst, sabotage your opportunity, and you're proven right...That's an attitude of depression that is very real...I think you have reasons to be depressed (if I remember you're the person with the misdemeanor and you're right, the discrimination you face over it is completely unjust, and you're unemployed..very stressful) but you're young and stuff can change...Don't turn into the 40 something who's blaming the world and saying what should have been if only you didn't get a raw deal.
Paying you something? they were ok with paying 60 to 70k. WTF
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Same, came really close to walking out...especially during the employee video stuff..but I needed that money bad.
But then he'd have the government all up in his ass, then what?
Then he'd see what a "power play" really is.
Chuck Norris
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What I find bizarre is that Thacker didn't even seem to ask what was going on? One minute he is making small talk with the secretary, the next minute you are walking out of the office? Why not do the simple, logical thing of asking if there is anything wrong? And why there might be a delay?
They could have brought you in early with the paperwork done, but some employers are just extremely rigid. It sounds like he expected you to have 45 minutes to do the paper work, and for him to look at the paper work before you began talking, and that 45 minutes would also allow him to chase up a few other things in his schedule.
The whole world doesn't revolve around you. To me it sounds like two extremely rigid people have clashed here over a simple issue of timing. Who knows, if he is as anal as you then you might have got along famously.
They could have brought you in early with the paperwork done, but some employers are just extremely rigid. It sounds like he expected you to have 45 minutes to do the paper work, and for him to look at the paper work before you began talking, and that 45 minutes would also allow him to chase up a few other things in his schedule.
The whole world doesn't revolve around you. To me it sounds like two extremely rigid people have clashed here over a simple issue of timing. Who knows, if he is as anal as you then you might have got along famously.
Randomizer
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A finger in the butt wouldn't go amiss.
I'm starting to think the actual dividing line in this thread is bewteen people who see a forty-five minute wait with no explanation as a faux pas resulting from shit happens, and people who see a forty-five minute wait with no explanation as the equivalent of being abducted, castrated, shat on, and then dumped in the middle of your family reunion naked, feces-covered, and bleeding from the groin.
Pankratous
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Dead.
QuicheFontaine
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Did he really have "every right to be offended"? Why attribute the wait to malice? You call it 'rude', I would call it 'unfortunate', and quite possibly understandable given the context of two techs having very recently just left - he's going to be busy, and unfortunately clients come before interviewees. The business needs to keep clients happy first and foremost, that's just how it works. The OP needs to realise that the world doesn't revolve around him.
This thread is really interesting.
Look at how the OP discusses and treated the receptionist vs. "the boss."
You'd think her job would include properly communicating to any visitor what they should expect.. noticing someone is waiting a long time and doing something about it or at least communicating with them, etc.,etc.
Incredibly basic duties she failed to complete. He even specifically excused himself from asking her why he was waiting because she looked so busy.
Yet all of the ire is aimed at the boss who MUST have been pulling power plays.. no way his story is remotely true, no way he had other things scheduled for the time between his last interview and the time he expected to see OP, etc.,etc.
Daddy issues?
Look at how the OP discusses and treated the receptionist vs. "the boss."
You'd think her job would include properly communicating to any visitor what they should expect.. noticing someone is waiting a long time and doing something about it or at least communicating with them, etc.,etc.
Incredibly basic duties she failed to complete. He even specifically excused himself from asking her why he was waiting because she looked so busy.
Yet all of the ire is aimed at the boss who MUST have been pulling power plays.. no way his story is remotely true, no way he had other things scheduled for the time between his last interview and the time he expected to see OP, etc.,etc.
Daddy issues?
Orbis Tabula
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lol, I love this guy. Don't worry, dude. Some day, banks will start accepting pride as payments for debts and you'll show us all!
Hale-XF11
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OP, the world is against you, I get that. I know exactly where that feeling stems from because I've been there myself, BUT... there is some great advice in this thread from some genuinely well meaning GAF members, especially Sho_Nuff82 and Kinitari. Since it's your thread and you're looking for real solid input, it would be a good idea to at least acknowledge the quality posts here because, unless I missed it, you have yet to do that.
TheSpoiler
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I'll sumrise for those just joining us:
Thracker is having job troubles for some strange reason
Finally, he gets an email, telling him about the interview process
He finds something amiss, as they begin to ask his salary history, but brave Thracker goes to the interview anyway
He's given paperwork and tears through it like a beast
He waits for the boss to come out and lick his taint
The boss does not come out and lick his taint
He talks to the secretary, forgetting to mention that he's done (but she sent the paperwork in so she must have told the boss!)
Thracker waits and waits because even though he is done with his shit, this part of the interview isn't over yet
Thracker leaves, holding his head held high, misguided pride and piles of debt in tow
Boss sends an email saying "why'd ya leave me, son?"
Thracker runs to the internet for validation
The internet does not offer any solace
Edit: Thracker pretends that he's somehow still successful, something something sour grapes, something you guys have jobs but you are getting walked over, something something
Thracker is still jobless for some strange reason
Did I miss anything?
Thracker is having job troubles for some strange reason
Finally, he gets an email, telling him about the interview process
He finds something amiss, as they begin to ask his salary history, but brave Thracker goes to the interview anyway
He's given paperwork and tears through it like a beast
He waits for the boss to come out and lick his taint
The boss does not come out and lick his taint
He talks to the secretary, forgetting to mention that he's done (but she sent the paperwork in so she must have told the boss!)
Thracker waits and waits because even though he is done with his shit, this part of the interview isn't over yet
Thracker leaves, holding his head held high, misguided pride and piles of debt in tow
Boss sends an email saying "why'd ya leave me, son?"
Thracker runs to the internet for validation
The internet does not offer any solace
Edit: Thracker pretends that he's somehow still successful, something something sour grapes, something you guys have jobs but you are getting walked over, something something
Thracker is still jobless for some strange reason
Did I miss anything?
EdibleKnife
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*Interviewer comes out of office*
Int: "Ah! Hello Mr. Thacker."
Thacker: "Afternoon, sir. Was I early? I thought the interview was at 3"
Int: "Oh yes. Forgive me. I was forced to make some calls to other applicants concerning their paperwork. Ran a little late. Glad you're punctual though.
*They share a laugh*
Int: "We'll let's not waste anymore of your time then. Please come in."
^Thats honestly how things would have gone if you just swallowed your pride and waited
Int: "Ah! Hello Mr. Thacker."
Thacker: "Afternoon, sir. Was I early? I thought the interview was at 3"
Int: "Oh yes. Forgive me. I was forced to make some calls to other applicants concerning their paperwork. Ran a little late. Glad you're punctual though.
*They share a laugh*
Int: "We'll let's not waste anymore of your time then. Please come in."
^Thats honestly how things would have gone if you just swallowed your pride and waited
Telephoto999
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You've missed the 5 times I've said I appreciate the input?
I appreciate
"I think you messed up, here's why"
I do not appreciate
"youre a loser, you'll continue to be a bum and not ever have healthcare and end up 40 and unemployable you dumbass"
This has me wondering...was the OP nervous about the receptionist? I mean, he tells us to have a backbone and stand up for ourselves yet doesn't ask the receptionist what the hell was going on?
CarpeDeezNutz
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I remember years ago applying for temp job that took me about an hour to interview and complete. I asked and that's the rough estimate I was given by the receptionist.
And, lmao what was OPs email to the employer? I just read the reply above.
And, lmao what was OPs email to the employer? I just read the reply above.
Hale-XF11
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Alright then, my bad for missing that. I'm an old man and kinda slow when it comes to threads that move this fast. I may even need a nap after reading this thread.
TheSpoiler
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The real reason he walked out was because she friendzone'd him and he can't deal with the embarrassment.
soxinthebox
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Don't ever rock up to an interview 15 minutes early. Just sit in your car until the scheduled time.
To then finish the paperwork/test BEFORE your interview was even set to start and walk out because the employer didn't bend to your new time frame is only a waste of your time.
Baffling.
To then finish the paperwork/test BEFORE your interview was even set to start and walk out because the employer didn't bend to your new time frame is only a waste of your time.
Baffling.
Chairmanchuck
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Thats the first thing that came to my mind.
I wait longer at a doctor to get medicine for a simple cold...
I think that's one thing. The other is also expecting some courtesy.
It's Like there are two sides here but they're arguing different things. I guess the argument is which side was actually more wrong.
Probably doesn't go, he said he's unemployed with no insurance. Pity he can't find a job to fix that.
Nealand Liquor
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*Shrug* I'm not going to argue, but that's not how I conduct myself when giving an interview. I know I'd be questioned by my superiors if I left an interviewee waiting for 45 minutes. Maybe things are different in Canada?
People stop saying he's unemployed...
So apparently he has another job sort-of? I really don't know.
So apparently he has another job sort-of? I really don't know.
It does remind me, when I go to my doctor, he is invariably behind. Sometimes he comes out and says sorry, sometimes not. When it comes to the time to see me he always apologises.
I think it would be a good thing to at least hold off your walking out until that time. Like give them the chance and see if it was worth your time or not.
TheSpoiler
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Common courtesy?
Thracker was told that it's an interview process. If you've ever been to an interview, you'd know they take a while, even when you are done with your shit they don't usually continue to check on you.
Yeah, the dude should have said hi or hold on or some shit, but what's Thracker getting out of this? A fucking job. He probably would have been hired, and it's not like our OP is on a time schedule for anything else but to post about it here.
Telephoto999
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It's amazing how bad this line of thinking is.
On the flip side, maybe his priority should be obtaining and keeping good techs to handle that work instead of losing employees as he has recently, and treating potentials like they shit before they are even hired.
I think it's sort of going unstated that most people here who are on the "company side" think the company handled it this poorly. It's not that the company's behavior was necessarily acceptable; it's that we think the response was worse. Everything the OP describes as a red flag would have been a red flag to me too, and I might have well walked out after the interview resolved to not accept the offer should it come to me, but that's precisely it- I would have walked out AFTER the interview. Ask the receptionist, deal with the process, and sacrifice some time- maybe your assumptions were right, maybe they were wrong, but either way you get better information to make a decision with and you don't potentially kill chances in an entire area- both with this company and with other companies they might talk to who might actually be good employers- for your industry.
Honestly it's odd.
It IS kind of a rude scenario. I agree that some people are ignoring that in this thread.
But there is someone in that situation whose job it is to handle when any sort of visitor has to wait, and it's generally not the head of the company who is responsible.
Could the boss be lying?
Sure.. but it's not really an unreasonable story. The other interviewee finished at 3:05, after the OP had already filled in his paperwork and taken his test. If the boss expected that to take a while he would have likely planned on doing something between the 2 interviews.
And then maybe he assumed the OP wasn't in any sort of hurry considering he just sat out there observing not saying a word post-small-talk... perhaps the receptionist didn't feel the need to explain anything considering his silence as well.
Everything about the story is a bunch of assumptions and judgement. Receptionist didn't do her job but she has a legit excuse, boss was definitely doing a power play, so was his initial communication, receptionist was sending OP signals by making a joke about the paperwork being painful, etc.
it's not ideal to have to wait so long for an interview, but man... aside from his DIRECTLY arrogant statements in this thread, the entire situation sort of smacks of ego gone wrong.
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