A Tale of 'Merica and Milk - I just walked out and abandoned a job interview. FML.

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It's amazing how bad this line of thinking is.

On the flip side, maybe his priority should be obtaining and keeping good techs to handle that work instead of losing employees as he has recently, and treating potentials like they shit before they are even hired.

Well he dodged the bullet then didn't he?
 
It's amazing how bad this line of thinking is.

On the flip side, maybe his priority should be obtaining and keeping good techs to handle that work instead of losing employees as he has recently, and treating potentials like they shit before they are even hired.

People leave companies all the time for different reasons. Saying "well if they left then it was a bad place" is silly since you don't know the reasons why. The position I'm in opened up after some dude up and left because he had to move suddenly - nothing to do with the company at all.
 
*Shrug* I'm not going to argue, but that's not how I conduct myself when giving an interview and I know I'd be queationed by my superiors if I left an interviewee waiting for 45 minutes. Maybe things are different in Canada?

There's no absolute method to interviews (varies from place to place and job to job) either but he allotted 45 min for paperwork and Thacker finished early. A simple "hey what's going on?" would've sufficed.
 
Common courtesy?

Thracker was told that it's an interview process. If you've ever been to an interview, you'd know they take a while, even when you are done with your shit they don't usually continue to check on you.

Yeah, the dude should have said hi or hold on or some shit, but what's Thracker getting out of this? A fucking job. He probably would have been hired, and it's not like our OP is on a time schedule for anything else but to post about it here.

Oh I agree totally.

Just pointing out that the two sides of argument here are not in proportion. One side says that common courtesy and professionalism should have been exhibited by the employer and that that is a red flag. Also pride and dignity apparently.

The other is that some patience and self-control to not walk out before all information is available on the situation would be prudent especially with the stakes at hand.

Both are right to a degree and point but they're not equal.
 
It's amazing how bad this line of thinking is.

On the flip side, maybe his priority should be obtaining and keeping good techs to handle that work instead of losing employees as he has recently, and treating potentials like they shit before they are even hired.

You are not a special flower my friend. You are another guy desperately needing a job but won't stick his head out of his ass because of sheer pride. You have no idea how hard it is to manage a small business especially when you lose employees out of nowhere. Maybe they were overworked? Wanted to move on? What the fuck matters? The man was giving you a chance (yes a chance, working is a privilege not a right) and you threw it out.

Right now, as you try to defend your shitty decision, that man is sitting in his house making fun of you. He has it all that matters right now while you are stuck defending your actions in a gaming forum.

This is not about bowing down or losing pride. This is about you thinking you deserve more. You earn stuff, it is not given to you because you think you are some special guy.
 
It's amazing how bad this line of thinking is.

On the flip side, maybe his priority should be obtaining and keeping good techs to handle that work instead of losing employees as he has recently, and treating potentials like they shit before they are even hired.

I dunno, I'd rather work for a company that's busy.
 
It's amazing how bad this line of thinking is.

On the flip side, maybe his priority should be obtaining and keeping good techs to handle that work instead of losing employees as he has recently, and treating potentials like they shit before they are even hired.
Or, you know, maybe his priority should be managing his business.
 
Hahahaha nah. Offered to help the OP as I know a place that is hiring in the area.

This has nothing at all to do with the thread but I randomly picked up a 6 pack of the beer your avatar represents and it's one of the best I've ever had.

So, cheers.
 
I dunno, I'd rather work for a company that's busy.

Yeah, in my experience (13 years in software development) where's chaos there's opportunity, in the other hand the one time I've been fired is because things were too calm so they didn't need me anymore.
 
It's amazing how bad this line of thinking is.

On the flip side, maybe his priority should be obtaining and keeping good techs to handle that work instead of losing employees as he has recently, and treating potentials like they shit before they are even hired.

On the flip side, I'm absolutely sure he has already hired somebody since he is willing to pay 70k, and you still don't have a job.
 
It's amazing how bad this line of thinking is.

On the flip side, maybe his priority should be obtaining and keeping good techs to handle that work instead of losing employees as he has recently, and treating potentials like they shit before they are even hired.

Based on all the posts you have made, you probably will not be happy anywhere unless you are your own boss. You should be looking to start a company and be an entrepreneur, not working for someone who you clearly will never agree with.
 
You are not a special flower my friend. You are another guy desperately needing a job but won't stick his head out of his ass because of sheer pride. You have no idea how hard it is to manage a small business especially when you lose employees out of nowhere. Maybe they were overworked? Wanted to move on? What the fuck matters? The man was giving you a chance (yes a chance, working is a privilege not a right) and you threw it out.

Right now, as you try to defend your shitty decision, that man is sitting in his house making fun of you. He has it all that matters right now while you are stuck defending your actions in a gaming forum.

This is not about bowing down or losing pride. This is about you thinking you deserve more. You earn stuff, it is not given to you because you think you are some special guy.

Fantastic post, bravo sir.
 
Mr. Thacker:

I completely understand you. I would felt the same you did. I'm also a very prideful guy and overvalue my dignity as the reference point of how I should treat people.

I won't judge you, I won't tell what you did was right or wrong.

Keep it up! Keep the good fight! You will find what you need!

Take this whole situation as a life experience. Sometimes GAF need to be more comprehensive and stop pointing people's mistakes (if there is, of course!)
 
If it was me, I would have already forwarded your stupid ass e-mails to every company I do business with in Pittsburgh as well as a few in Canada and Italy.

We'd all have a great laugh about it. (CSX ain't got time for that shit, so I'd leave them out.)
 
Probably not worth of your time,
If it was me and i really need this job, i will go back to him, but if notand i have another opportunity, i'd say, fuck him.
 
I'm amazed at how people still don't understand the difference between waiting for someone and being pointedly ignored.

The interviewer even said he wasn't behind, just that he had a time allotted for letting the person finish paperwork and wasn't going to deviate. All he had to do was say hi.
 
I've always been taught to deflect the salary question, saying you'd like to learn more about the position. When they ask again what you were making give a range. I bumped up my range and got a higher amount my next job.

Of course, you're not supposed to give them your real salary history, you give them what you want to make. THAT'S THE POWER PLAY
 
I've waited longer for shitty meals.

I've waited longer for rides at Theme Parks.

45 minutes for a decent job is literally a pittance.

Wait wait I got one:

OP went to Disneyland once, left after 45 minutes: the wait was too long to get in.


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Thacker has time to pick up mario kart 3ds at target, but doesn't have time to wait for a job interview even though he can't get a job because of background history.

Really dude? I've been on your side with how shitty your situation is before, but fuck man, you need some perspective.
 
A power play?

Love it. It's like Game of Thrones or House of Cards.

More like Shower of Shit..

How do you know that the obviously overworked secretary wasn’t supposed to let you know of a delay and to apologise? It’s been said before in this thread but just the smallest amount of mature and professional communication would have resolved the situation.

FYI, throwing your toys out of your pram and flouncing off in a huff is not standing up for yourself; you should have kicked down the door and asked him if he knew who the hell you were! After all, the time of a man in charge of a tech company who has recently lost ¼ of their techs is much less valuable of an unemployed man who needs to beat rush hour to make it home in time for Maury.

But the jokes on him, while he would have just hired one of the other applicants, you got to keep your dignity.

“Hello, landlord? Can I pay this month’s rent with pride and righteous indignation instead of cash?”
 
Which is why I responded to him with a range of 60-70k. If I had told him my history was 52k as it was at my last position, come offer time I would have been offered 55-60k. He isn't going to shoot 25% higher than I was making previously if he thinks he can get me for less. Obviously by inviting me in for an interview he was okay with the range I gave him, but offering my history would have shot me in the foot. Not that what I did didn't shoot me in the foot, because obviously it did... but come on GAF.

I got a 38% raise coming into my current job. Large increases going from one company to another is the typical way to move up in the business world.
 
The employer did himself a favor. Self-entitled employees are always a pain when it comes to common practices such as being expected to work unpaid overtime, being on call, and having your plans for the day do an abrupt 180 because IT happens.

OP, you need to swallow your pride. I say this in a sincere manner.
 
40 he got there at 3:05... If I needed the job I would have waited at least an hour.

The problem is he didn't have the people and communication skills to ask the secretary what was going on, she could have explained everything in 30s
 
I don't want to pile on you, OP, but jeeze... all you really needed to do was ask the receptionist.

I work at a small company too, my boss is so overworked that I have no idea how he functions. Like I get emails at 4AM type stuff

Next time, take a breather. Communicate. People are busy and you have time to kill.

It's not like the boss was just goofing off that entire time, right?
 
Wait wait I got one:

OP went to Disneyland once, left after 45 minutes: the wait was too long to get in.


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Another:

I waited in line for 45 minutes at the store on Black Friday, then once I got to the cash register I left my stuff and walked out.

That'll show them, right?
 
The receptionist never said I would be waiting any sort of time.

Because no one expects an adult to get up and walk out of a job interview because they have better places to be? She also didn't tell you to keep your clothes on, because she assumed as an adult you already knew that was a rule.
 
Thacker, I don't know what you were thinking by acting in such a fashion but some of the threads you've posted leads me to believe that you're in no position to be filled with hubris. You've already got an uphill battle to climb with your background, justified or not. Do you think that being brash and impulsive is going to disprove the assumptions that potential employers make about you when they look at your criminal history?

A power play?

Love it. It's like Game of Thrones or House of Cards.

I don't know about the verbiage but it's definitely a bargaining tactic that is advantageous to the employer. It's not dissimilar from a car salesman asking you what you'd be willing to pay for a car: you gain nothing by answering that question before knowing what they're willing to sell it at. My salary history is irrelevant: what matters is the local market rate for talent measured against the availability of said talent and their level of need for said talent. 9 times of out 10, an employer who makes this a sticking point is fishing for a way to pay less for talent than they've got budgeting for (Which is of course their right, but something I'll resist vehemently).

My salary expectation varies directly with the responsibility of the potential job, the going market rate for said job, and the cost of living in the local area.
 
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