A Tale of 'Merica and Milk - I just walked out and abandoned a job interview. FML.
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HP_Wuvcraft
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The only relevant question here.
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davepoobond
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Excellent ending picture, mandrake.
Wow, I had missed the post with the guy responding to Thacker's email.
I really hope he's kicking himself right now - way to ruin a chance!
On the bright side, the employer dodged a bullet. I would not want Thacker working for me. Hell, I wouldn't want to interview him. Clearly a delusional guy.
I really hope he's kicking himself right now - way to ruin a chance!
On the bright side, the employer dodged a bullet. I would not want Thacker working for me. Hell, I wouldn't want to interview him. Clearly a delusional guy.
For those of you just joining us...
Goodnight.
Wow, this is intense. What the hell did I miss? Damn. I read the original post a long time ago and then thought it was going to be a pretty open-shut thread. Boy was I wrong.
...and it's all thanks to milk.
Thanks Obama
Wow. Thacker. More like WHACKER, because that dude is whacker than Vanilla Ice.
That's like cheating at golf. Why even bother playing? lol
He thought he got shot in the butt,
but it was really a toilet paper cut
Rawket Lawnchair
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Although as it turns out the OP lost it at some point (last night I told him he was not in the wrong), I still think it's a major fault from the company's side for not making him specifically aware that the interview would not start at 3pm sharp, but that there was paperwork to be filled first.
From my experience, when you set up an interview, the time you're given is supposed to be the time you arrive at the company and the interview more or less starts. If you're late, you suck, and it's regarded as a very unprofessional behaviour.
If the OP was not told from the manager or the secretary that some paperwork must be completed before the actual interview, and this can take anything from 30 minutes to one hour before the interview, then I really don't know what to blame him for (well, except from not actually asking the receptionist what's going on, bridge-burning and a very firm final email).
I also find the fact that (according to the OP) the manager did not spend 30 seconds of his time to acknowledge his presence in the office, greet him and tell him he would be seeing him in a while, very unprofessional. Instead, he let someone wait (assuming the secretary would inform the candidate for the delay?) and stand there for 45 minutes.
Both parties are at fault here.
I hope the OP learns from his mistake, and gets another chance soon.
From my experience, when you set up an interview, the time you're given is supposed to be the time you arrive at the company and the interview more or less starts. If you're late, you suck, and it's regarded as a very unprofessional behaviour.
If the OP was not told from the manager or the secretary that some paperwork must be completed before the actual interview, and this can take anything from 30 minutes to one hour before the interview, then I really don't know what to blame him for (well, except from not actually asking the receptionist what's going on, bridge-burning and a very firm final email).
I also find the fact that (according to the OP) the manager did not spend 30 seconds of his time to acknowledge his presence in the office, greet him and tell him he would be seeing him in a while, very unprofessional. Instead, he let someone wait (assuming the secretary would inform the candidate for the delay?) and stand there for 45 minutes.
Both parties are at fault here.
I hope the OP learns from his mistake, and gets another chance soon.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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What a thread. I could use some milk.
The Driver
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After skimming a good portion of this thread,
1.) Thacker messed up. Interviewer did as well to a lesser degree.
2.) Thacker messed up even harder posting it here. Elaborate troll attempt/ persecution complex/ or whatever on his part, it's weird to see how riled up GAF gets at this shit. I know the dude seemed pretty hard-headed that he was mostly in the right but damn, be thankful that y'all have the self-awareness to not make threads detailing a dumb mistake you made lest you risk eliciting the wrath of GAFs goof-beatdown squad...
1.) Thacker messed up. Interviewer did as well to a lesser degree.
2.) Thacker messed up even harder posting it here. Elaborate troll attempt/ persecution complex/ or whatever on his part, it's weird to see how riled up GAF gets at this shit. I know the dude seemed pretty hard-headed that he was mostly in the right but damn, be thankful that y'all have the self-awareness to not make threads detailing a dumb mistake you made lest you risk eliciting the wrath of GAFs goof-beatdown squad...
Perfect Cha0s
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I don't think people would have come down as hard on him if he hadn't A) decided to frame it as "fighting the man" and "standing up for himself" once everyone (IMO, rightfully) started calling him immature and/or an idiot for what he did, and B) had a history of making threads detailing the woes of feeling underpayed and being unemployed.
Well that's something.
OP if you're still reading this thread or alive, cheer up. Breathe deep and think about what people are telling you in this thread. If you can admit to yourself that you are in the wrong here, your mind would be clear. Think of it as a lesson. Reply back to the employer and apologize. Maybe they can give you another chance.
The world isn't as bad as you think right now.
OP if you're still reading this thread or alive, cheer up. Breathe deep and think about what people are telling you in this thread. If you can admit to yourself that you are in the wrong here, your mind would be clear. Think of it as a lesson. Reply back to the employer and apologize. Maybe they can give you another chance.
The world isn't as bad as you think right now.
MarkMclovin
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Not bothered coming into this thread before, I mean, who cares about a guy that can't be bothered to stay at an interview?
My God I wish I had now. And Mandrakes posts are fucking great.
Cheers.
My God I wish I had now. And Mandrakes posts are fucking great.
Cheers.
Sixfortyfive
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Deaf Spacker
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Fantastic summary Lionel Mandrake.
SpectreFire
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OP's shit aside, it's amazing how many people here are so willing to just lay down and let someone step all over them in a professional environment,
You're there to interview the company as much as they're there to interview you. They wouldn't except you being 45 min late to a scheduled interview, why on earth should you
A boss that can't properly communicate to a scheduled interviewee that he's running late is a boss that simply can't communicate and probably doesn't respect your time. That's not an environment you should want to work in.
You're there to interview the company as much as they're there to interview you. They wouldn't except you being 45 min late to a scheduled interview, why on earth should you
A boss that can't properly communicate to a scheduled interviewee that he's running late is a boss that simply can't communicate and probably doesn't respect your time. That's not an environment you should want to work in.
Exactly. I'm sure we would all do what he did in his place, especially when unemployed, in debt and desperate for cash. No one walks all over me.
teruterubozu
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And with a stained record. Dude was lucky to get a call back.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
And it only makes sense to assume that the whole world is out to get me and keep me down at every turn. These people couldn't have any justifiable priorities or conflicts, and I certainly don't need to expend any effort to communicate with them!
Christ.
The OP's behavior is indicative of a man who really wants to make enemies out of thin air that he can blame for his problems.
elrechazado
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Yeah nobody makes me wait for a few minutes when I desperately need a job!!!!
Reading posts like this you'd think the guy was made to literally lick the boss's shoes clean or compromise his values in some actual way. What self entitled drivel.
As has been said, he arrived EARLY and completed all the forms by practically the time he was supposed to arrive in the first place. As already mentioned, it's almost certain that the busy man doing these interviews had scheduled in time for him to fill out the forms, and planned to do other tasks in the interim. That Thacker felt entitled to get served earlier because he arrived early and finished quick is remarkable in of itself; that he failed to even ask the assistant what was going on is essentially unforgivable potential employee behavior.
But then he had that letter he wrote to this guy, it's almost insane from the entitled tone. If you don't read that and the rest of the posts in this topic, including the very restrained response from the interviewer in question, and conclude that Thacker's pride was the problem here, then you probably should read again.
I don't care how disrespected I felt, if I needed a job and they were the only company to give me an interview in weeks AND I had a criminal record; I'd wait there all day, hell I'd get the sleeping bag out if I had to.
I'd at least give them a chance to explain the delay (which is clear they would have done anyway).
Fantastic as always, I get happy when Malcolm McDowell's face is staring at me with a book in his hands.
I'd at least give them a chance to explain the delay (which is clear they would have done anyway).
Fantastic as always, I get happy when Malcolm McDowell's face is staring at me with a book in his hands.
Having to wait nearly an hour is practically licking his boots. Imagine what OP's ancestors would say if they had known? They would shake their heads in shame. What has America devolved into I ask?
rudieboy77
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40 pages because a guy wanted a job, but he really didn't.
For those of you just joining us...
Thanks! Amazing. Simply amazing.
I'll have a pint of milk now.
That was amazing.
Yeah, man. Bet these moist as dudes drink regular, non-muscle milk.
Why is this thread still going? The jokes are getting kinda old now, and he's not even here.
teruterubozu
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Sitting in a waiting room is "getting stepped all over in a corporate environment". LOL
Well you know, people keep bumping it.
Well you know, people keep bumping it.
TheSpoiler
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Nobody is removing the business from fault. It's just that their "transgression" is far less than Thracker's huff and puffing. It's an interview process. If you've ever been to an interview, they tell you to set aside time, and you fill out shit.
Thracker got there early, confident and chipper. He filled out the test in record time and was sad about waiting even though it was an interview process.
The boss was probably doing other things. It's not like Thracker had some sort of important meeting to go to and he couldn't wait to get there. It was a matter of pride, and that overly entitled pride led to the lost of a job.
I've waited during an interview process many times even though I was done. Why? Because they are scheduling other interviewees at that time. Or maybe they are, I dunno, running their business. If they say it's a process, you wait, or you don't bitch about not getting a job.
IpsoFacto
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I've been in that situation that the OP describes and I'm sad to say: It's was a bad idea to walk out.
I know it sounds a tad frustrating and in one situation I came close to giving up and walking out after waiting for 2 straight hours (but then again, there were like 20 other people that were being interviewed at the time).
But stay put, keep calm, use the extra time to notice stuff in the office, relax, get into the mood, reharse your conversations while you wait, play a game on your smartphone, but essentially be patient.
I know it sounds a tad frustrating and in one situation I came close to giving up and walking out after waiting for 2 straight hours (but then again, there were like 20 other people that were being interviewed at the time).
But stay put, keep calm, use the extra time to notice stuff in the office, relax, get into the mood, reharse your conversations while you wait, play a game on your smartphone, but essentially be patient.
David Incorporated Esq.
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That's kind of what he did, though, because all he had to do was wave or say "Hi, I'll be with you shortly" and it would have been fine. Hell, they were within earshot of each other. Instead he pointedly ignored Thacker since he expected him to take longer.
Thacker still could have handled it a lot better but it's very grating seeing people say that behavior like the owner's is expected because it's absolutely not--it's grossly disrespectful and unprofessional.
Thacker also over-reacted in the thread but he was 100% correct in saying there's a pervasive attitude of "anything for the boss as long as I have a job" in America, which hurts everyone. Just that there's a better way to say it than " 'Merica!"
Zoe
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The test was part of the interview, thus it was folded into the interview time. The owner specified to the OP to arrive "right at" 3:00.
David Incorporated Esq.
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I dream of a day when people take the time to learn what passive-aggressive behavior actually entails.
andthebeatgoeson
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Wait for the edit.
For those of you just joining us...
You're my new favorite person on NeoGAF. I read the OP and could not understand how this thread got to 2,000 posts so quickly.
The boss was working. He has a day job. He crammed an interview into his schedule, then he caught up on work, and expected to cram in another interview at 3:45. He told the OP to arrive at 3:00, that way the OP would have plenty of time to fill out the paperwork and it would streamline the actual interview process.
The OP arrived early and rushed though the paperwork. Then he was asked by the receptionist to take a seat, and the boss would be with him as soon as he was free. That's entirely normal.
The boss wasn't ignoring the OP, he was working. According to the OP, he was making phone calls and meeting with employees. The OP simply believed that he was more important than whoever that was on the other end of the phone. He believed that by showing up early and finishing his paperwork quickly, he had priority over the boss' other appointments.
Yes, it would have been nice if the boss came over, shook his hand, and said "I'll be with you in a couple of minutes", but he might have preferred to focus on getting his own work done before coming over and saying "Phew, got that stuff all out of the way. My name's X, nice to meet you." And it's not the boss' job to wait on people who are waiting in the lobby, that's the receptionist's job.
In the OP's nuke-letter, he implied that the boss was free at 3:05, as soon as the previous candidate walked out of the office, even though he told us he could hear the boss working, right up until he rage-quit the interview. Why are employment applications a valid job for the boss, while phone calls and employee meetings aren't? It's because the OP saw the boss as nothing more than an object that hands out jobs. (And note, the OP spent a half hour on the phone with the boss a day earlier.)
He saw that the receptionist was busy, so he stopped pestering her, and went as far as to not ask her any questions when he began to feel uncomfortable. But "with all due respect" that boss is terrible for making the OP wait for his scheduled appointment. Total double standard.
Also, the OP said that he was broken at 30 minutes. He showed up early, rushed his paperwork, and then couldn't wait 30 minutes before he felt he was so agitated that he would have been unable to pass the interview. It took him another 15 minutes to reach the state where he torpedoed everything. He needs some sort of help.
Edit: Just to reiterate: He arrived 15 minutes early. Waiting for 30 minutes broke him.
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