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[AkuMifune]

Well now, this took a turn. I tried to be generous to Thacker's instincts, but didn't expect him to double-down on irrational arrogance.

It's actually a pretty common interview tactic...making the interviewee wait. It's not exactly kind, but it does give a bit of insight on the person's patience, and how determined they are to get the job.

It might have behooved OP to ask questions of the person he was speaking with a little more directly, or just ask where the restroom was to go and collect himself a bit. If you're desperate for a job, sometimes you have to prove that you're capable of it. If that means doing a song and dance, then so be it. Pity he missed out, but hopefully it's a lesson learned.

Might be asking much, but we can hope. At least a good lesson for the rest of us!

 

[garath]

Wow. I just saw this thread. 42 pages since yesterday and the OP is banned.

I'll just throw my two cents in anyways. If you're interviewing with a direct report of a busy company, especially the owner of a small company, expect delays. It should be refreshing that it's busy. Bodes well for job security.

Patience is a virtue.

 

[Opinionatedfish]

Accidentally arrived 30 minutes early to my own job interview today. My nice shoes are reminding me that I never properly broke them in two years ago. I feel horrible and my suit feels suffocating. I totally gained weight since I last wore it. My tie feels like a noose. But this is at least a $10 an hour job. I shall endure. Wish me luck! I haven't had a formal job interview since 2011.

If I get this job... There are people here wearing jeans. That would be good.

 

[TheRagnCajun]

Wow, what a ride. I gave the OP the benifit of the doubt, but it looks like I was wrong. Hopefully the OP learned something from all of this.

 

[nilbog21]

clearly OP has insecurity/ego issues that need to be resolved..

 

[QuicheFontaine]

Accidentally arrived 30 minutes early to my own job interview today. My nice shoes are reminding me that I never properly broke them in two years ago. I feel horrible and my suit feels suffocating. I totally gained weight since I last wore it. My tie feels like a noose. But this is at least a $10 an hour job. I shall endure. Wish me luck! I haven't had a formal job interview since 2011.

If I get this job... There are people here wearing jeans. That would be good.

Quick warning! Don't tell them you're there half an hour early!!

Employers generally hate when you do that (we certainly do at my company) as they have work to do and have already assigned a specific time to see you, unless the firm has a dedicated department for recruitment.

Edit:

Rushed that because I wanted you to read it before going in. It doesn't show keenness, like some people think, but just screws up everyone's schedule.

Good luck!

 

[Hylian7]

It's actually a pretty common interview tactic...making the interviewee wait. It's not exactly kind, but it does give a bit of insight on the person's patience, and how determined they are to get the job.

It might have behooved OP to ask questions of the person he was speaking with a little more directly, or just ask where the restroom was to go and collect himself a bit. If you're desperate for a job, sometimes you have to prove that you're capable of it. If that means doing a song and dance, then so be it. Pity he missed out, but hopefully it's a lesson learned.

Really? I think the longest I ever waited for a interview was maybe 5 mminutes, and that was even arriving early.

I'm not defending Thacker here, but I seriously doubt making him wait was an interview tactic. Regardless though, it got rid of a candidate they don't want.

 

[liquidtmd]

Just read the OP and most of the thread now.

Should have at least pushed the receptionist to get the lowdown. These people get delayed freuquently and often. It is not malicious. Common courtesy doesnt always apply as the pressure of making calls to the right people WILL take precedent to interviewing newbees. Nature of things.

Good luck OP - it was your call but I dont agree

 

[Alebrije]

The bright side of the story is that someone else got the job, a person that really needed it and not OP.

 

[elty]

It all started one day long ago, when our man Thacker posted a most sorrowful tale filled with tragedy and misfortune, about how a shrill and evil ex-girlfriend beat him with a phone after a "mutual" physical altercation. This girlfriend then became the head of some powerful company, malevolently shutting down all his job opportunities one after the other until, despondent, he turned to NeoGAF and made that first thread.

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For in a closing salvo, he informs NeoGAF that they have overdosed on milk and estrogen, which is why we don't understand his perspective of standing up for himself and leaving immediately after 45 minutes. If only we had dipped far less cookies in our milk, mayhaps we could have grasped his vision of the world.


If only...

10/10

 

[terrisus]

Sure, not really claiming otherwise. Just that it's a two-way street. "You" don't need THAT job, you just need "a job." There's nothing wrong with an interviewee deciding a job is not for them.

Right, he doesn't "need THAT job." There are many things which make that job desirable - the pay, among other things. But, if he decided that wasn't the job he wanted/he didn't want to work there, that's certainly his choice. He can move on, and likewise the company will move on.

So, the company will move on, and likely hire someone else by the end of the week.
Meanwhile, he will move on and... Well... What exactly? Based on his other threads, even getting another interview might be a challenge, much less actually finding another job.

Therein lies the issue: the company can move on easily and be just fine - him, not so much.

 

[terrisus]

Also, all of the people in this thread misspelling Thacker's name as Thracker or Thatcher or whatever else must be really demeaning and insulting. He deserves more respect than that.

And also, if the ban is just a temp ban as opposed to a permanent ban, I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see this thread get bumped with replies to some of the posts when he's unbanned

Spoiler

and, eventually, the reveal that even after the ban, he's still unemployed.

 

[Joni]

Topics like this are why I love GAF.

 

[God Dayumm]

Now I feel self-conscious because I drink 2 cups of milk daily and lots of dairy

'Milka

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

I don't get it. If the company is legit, and it's a decent job that could get your foot in the door, then why I bother to screw it up? Suck it up, and all day if you have to, because apparently you really need a job.

OP probably felt like he was entitled to be seen right away.

EDIT-HOOOOLY SHITSNACKS at the milk and estrogen post. Man, I love GAF.

 

[Liberty4all]

Thanks Lionel. Awesome recap as always old boy.

 

[Eusis]

Thanks Lionel. Awesome recap as always old boy.

I just did a search on each page until milk got more than one result. Though I still need to read a full recap.

 

[flaxknuckles]

You walked away from a $70k a year job after months of being unemployed?

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I would have waited 3 days and slept in my car outside the building after work hours for that job.

 

[otapnam]

You walked away from a $70k a year job after months of being unemployed?

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I would have waited 3 days and slept in my car outside the building after work hours for that job.

america fyeah!

 

[kame-sennin]

I just wanna throw in regarding this notion that a job is a "privilege." I think that's an extremely caustic attitude, one that paints employees as subservient and not deserving of respect. As much as any employee needs a job, a company needs an employee. It is a symbiotic relationship, and anyone who thinks "oh god please bless upon me a position" is just perpetuating a terrible mindset where workers are just meat waiting to be processed. The more interviewees act like this, the more companies will think it's okay to treat them that way.

Yup. We as a society have totally embraced wage slavery as a fait accompli.

 

[Photolysis]

It's one thing not to sell your soul for a job, but given the personal circumstances as well as a basic failure to clarify what was going on with the receptionist, the only word to describe the situation is "insane".

I don't think think the self-righteous claims to moral superiority over one's professionalism (which certainly wasn't demonstrated in a follow up email) puts food on the table though...

 

[TheSpoiler]

Yup. We as a society have totally embraced wage slavery as a fait accompli.

You can apply that to many cases, but this isn't one of them, especially since the boss fucking emailed him asking where he was at.

 

[DoktorEvil]

You walked away from a $70k a year job after months of being unemployed?

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I would have waited 3 days and slept in my car outside the building after work hours for that job.

Uhhh...

Worker's rights exist for these reasons.

 

[Amentallica]

I read this entire thread. My first legendary thread, it seems. I'm proud to be apart of it.

 

[TheBryanJZX90]

Man, if it was an interview tactic by the company owner to make OP wait, then, it fucking worked! Thracker just justified that employer making every single interviewee wait. Because I personally think making an interviewee wait is kind of a dick move and rude, but it would totally be worth making 50 interviewees wait 45 minutes each just to be able to weed out someone like Thacker with a ridiculously inflated ego.

 

[Highwind]

I can't believe this guy fucking walked out from a 70k job cause of a 45 min wait, without even inquiring about the interview process.

And he was unemployed for a while.

Jesus Christ Almighty. FUCK.

 

[effzee]

I'm in the exact same situation right now gaf!

Waiting for an interview which was supposed to start at 12 but is 20 minutes late. My main concern is that I took some time off from my current job and have to go back to finish my shift.

Should I storm out GAF???!!!! I just had some coffee too.

With milk.

 

[Blood Red Sky]

I had a dude arrive early for an interview a few months back. I work in a different building, so when HR called I had to drop what I was doing and haul ass over there.

Dude bombed the interview, sadly. Basically told me he wanted a job and didn't particularly care what it was. Also, it transpired he actually lived 100 miles away and planned to commute(!)

 

[The Blue Jihad]

Waiting for an interview which was supposed to start at 12 but is 20 minutes late. My main concern is that I took some time off from my current job and have to go back to finish my shift.

Interview, during the work day?

Ballsy.

Stupid, but ballsy.

 

[Blood Red Sky]

I'm in the exact same situation right now gaf!

Waiting for an interview which was supposed to start at 12 but is 20 minutes late. My main concern is that I took some time off from my current job and have to go back to finish my shift.

Should I storm out GAF???!!!! I just had some coffee too.

With milk.

Throw the coffee in the interviewer's face first. They like to see passion.

 

[flaxknuckles]

I'm in the exact same situation right now gaf!

Waiting for an interview which was supposed to start at 12 but is 20 minutes late. My main concern is that I took some time off from my current job and have to go back to finish my shift.

Should I storm out GAF???!!!! I just had some coffee too.

With milk.

That's a bit different than this thread's situation. You should have taken a day off and scheduled multiple interviews with different places that day. You just need to go back to work lol

 

[God Dayumm]

Now imagine if this was Canada and you had to carry and slurp from your bag of milk to rise your estrogen for the wait

 

[Trouble]

You're my new favorite person on NeoGAF. I read the OP and could not understand how this thread got to 2,000 posts so quickly.

New favorite? Lionel achieved god tier poster status a long time ago. He became my favorite "person" in the world with the original Mandrake Air post.

 

[Opinionatedfish]

Quick warning! Don't tell them you're there half an hour early!!

Employers generally hate when you do that (we certainly do at my company) as they have work to do and have already assigned a specific time to see you, unless the firm has a dedicated department for recruitment.

Edit:

Rushed that because I wanted you to read it before going in. It doesn't show keenness, like some people think, but just screws up everyone's schedule.

Good luck!

It's apparently crunch time there. I think it went okay. Was nervous as all Hell. Also, it's a $15 an hour starting out job in accounts payable. I don't know Oracle... But I taught myself CSS and HTML. Oracle database is probably easy to figure out. I'll download the software and start figuring it out. I dunno. Part of me hopes they call me back Wednesday and I can start after E3.... I dunno. If I got the job... That would be cool. If not. I just landed a phone interview with Public Storage. That would be cool too. If I get the job I interviewed for... I would be working with hydraulic fracturing contacts. That would be interesting. I need to go eat food. I have not eaten anything all day.

 

[Dalek]

Thacker received quite a thacking

dead

 

[Halcyon]

I took quite a bit of grief from Thackers Target thread and got the feeling he was a little bit on the entitled side of the argument.

I'm not saying everyone was that way, but I got absolutely shit on in that thread for suggesting people not settle. It's good to see he was on a job interview trying to get that 70k job, but I feel bad that it turned into a circus.

 

[davepoobond]

That post you quoted wasn't passive-aggressive, it was just plain "aggressive"

Actually, your false-politeness makes your response more passive-aggressive than the post you quoted...

Someone didnt get the reference. Plus I wasn't even specifically talking about his post

 

[Joni]

It's apparently crunch time there. I think it went okay. Was nervous as all Hell. Also, it's a $15 an hour starting out job in accounts payable. I don't know Oracle... But I taught myself CSS and HTML. Oracle database is probably easy to figure out. I'll download the software and start figuring it out..

What is the job? Set-up and maintenance; or more interogation of the database?

 

[gdt]

This thread went insane in a day haha. I love gaf.

Thacker man you need some help. You have some serious ego issues.

 

[endre]

I am sorry to jump in, but there is one thing I am not sure I understand, It comes up a lot and I have been meaning to ask this for a long time. What do you guys mean by salaried? Is it not a monthly compensation for your "obligatory" work hours? I see very often that somehow overtime should be treated differently when someone is a salaried worker.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Holy shit. How did I miss this. Jesus Christ.

Damn....what the milk?

Gotta have patience. And wtf is all this "respect" talk about? This isn't jail.

 

[andycapps]

An office job making above the median salary with OT and benefits in a comfortable American city isn't some Upton Sinclair-esque dystopia. The OP's job at Walmart is much closer to what you describe, and he somehow doesn't seem to have a problem working for minimum wage at the Manniest of all "The Man" companies. He'll never even know if the boss was a nice guy or an asshole, because their entire interaction was based on inference and speculation. He assumed their initial phone call and his waiting room experience was some assertion of dominance power play in which the evil manager was attempting to bend him to his whim. When it turns out he was just completing his due diligence on the OP's paperwork and doing, you know, his job.

The reality of the current job market is that there are more seekers than there are jobs available. It has thrown off the traditional balance of power (which, lets face it, only really existed for the last 30 years or so). If you walk in to an interview with no referral expecting a latte and a back rub, instead of having to fight tooth and nail for a position that 100 other people just as qualified as you are also applying for, you're not going to find much success.

Well said, completely agree.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

This thread went insane in a day haha. I love gaf.

Thacker man you need some help. You have some serious ego issues.

Real talk.

You can't swallow dat pride for one interview? They should teach a life-skills class about how to swallow pride. Man, oh man. If I flipped my shit every time I "felt" disrespected I'd be dead in a ditch somewhere.

 

[Opinionatedfish]

What is the job? Set-up and maintenance; or more interogation of the database?

It's sending out royalty checks and stuff. Company is High Sierra.

 

[Zoe]

I am sorry to jump in, but there is one thing I am not sure I understand, It comes up a lot and I have been meaning to ask this for a long time. What do you guys mean by salaried? Is it not a monthly compensation for your "obligatory" work hours? I see very often that somehow overtime should be treated differently when someone is a salaried worker.

You are either paid by hours worked or by an annual amount divided by the number of pay periods. If you are hourly you're entitled to overtime when you go over 40 hours a week. If you are salary, you may not qualify for overtime depending on your position.

It's sending out royalty checks and stuff. Company is High Sierra.

It's highly unlikely you would be working directly with the database. You would either be extracting data through reports/Access or be using business software that connects to the database.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Was Thacker permanently banned?

 

[garath]

I am sorry to jump in, but there is one thing I am not sure I understand, It comes up a lot and I have been meaning to ask this for a long time. What do you guys mean by salaried? Is it not a monthly compensation for your "obligatory" work hours? I see very often that somehow overtime should be treated differently when someone is a salaried worker.

There's no overtime pay if you are a salaried employee. You have hours but it is largely more flexible.

 

[ZackieChan]

Such a bittersweet ending.

Is it okay to insult the OP now, since he's banned? At what point is he no longer a Gaffer?

Because if it was a news story about some random guy's life, I feel like commenters here would not be kind.

 

[Opinionatedfish]

It's highly unlikely you would be working directly with the database. You would either be extracting data through reports/Access or be using business software that connects to the database.

That sounds even easier than I thought. I know Access. I also have clerical experience from working at the IRS for years. Wait. Oracle makes Access. I am an idiot.

I have three years of Access experience.

I have three years of Oracle experience.

 

[Zoe]

That sounds even easier than I thought. I know Access. I also have clerical experience from working at the IRS for years. Wait. Oracle makes Access. I am an idiot.

I have three years of Access experience.

I have three years of Oracle experience.

Microsoft makes Access.